Ho hum, Republicans don’t even try to hide their pandering

Vern · Feb 4, 2015

“As if begging for a Groundhog Day joke, House Republicans will vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act again on Tuesday. It'll be the 56th shot they've taken at the law, and just like every other time they've tried to erase President Obama's signature achievement, this attempt is doomed to fail.....

So why waste everyone's time with another futile repeal vote? The simple answer, as Boehner himself told Fox News's Bret Baier last week, is they're doing it for the freshmen—that is, the 47 House Republicans who just took office a month ago and have never had the high honor and privilege of voting to repeal Obamacare. By holding the vote, these lawmakers can head back to their districts and tell their constituents that yes, they did everything they could to get rid of the reviled law. "We're just getting it out of the way," one Republican aide told the Washington Examiner, reflecting a sentiment probably shared by a party leadership that has seen this game play out several times already.

Why Republicans Are Voting to Repeal Obamacare

Yep, republicans voted to repeal Obamacare. Yep, they admit it was pointless. Yep, it’s just so freshman members of congress can get their little conservative “merit” badge to show the folks back home. Yep, that's what republican politicians think of their base

cpwill · Feb 4, 2015

Vern said:
“As if begging for a Groundhog Day joke, House Republicans will vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act again on Tuesday. It'll be the 56th shot they've taken at the law, and just like every other time they've tried to erase President Obama's signature achievement, this attempt is doomed to fail.....

So why waste everyone's time with another futile repeal vote? The simple answer, as Boehner himself told Fox News's Bret Baier last week, is they're doing it for the freshmen—that is, the 47 House Republicans who just took office a month ago and have never had the high honor and privilege of voting to repeal Obamacare. By holding the vote, these lawmakers can head back to their districts and tell their constituents that yes, they did everything they could to get rid of the reviled law. "We're just getting it out of the way," one Republican aide told the Washington Examiner, reflecting a sentiment probably shared by a party leadership that has seen this game play out several times already.

Why Republicans Are Voting to Repeal Obamacare

Yep, republicans voted to repeal Obamacare. Yep, they admit it was pointless. Yep, it’s just so freshman members of congress can get their little conservative “merit” badge to show the folks back home. Yep, that's what republican politicians think of their base

Anyone else find it interesting that liberals would automatically disparage actually making campaign promises and then keeping them?

eohrnberger · Feb 4, 2015

cpwill said:
Anyone else find it interesting that liberals would automatically disparage actually making campaign promises and then keeping them?

It must be because that's such a foreign concept to them. :lamo

cpwill · Feb 4, 2015

eohrnberger said:
It must be because that's such a foreign concept to them. :lamo

Apparently they think it's the sort of thing you only do when you have to in order to pander to your base.

Vern · Feb 4, 2015

cpwill said:
Anyone else find it interesting that liberals would automatically disparage actually making campaign promises and then keeping them?

really? republicans promised to have pointless votes for show to pander to a gullible base? mmmm, I don't mean to be a bother but wasn't the promise "repeal and replace"? Seems kinda short sighted to have pointless repeal votes without offering any specifics on the 'replace" part of that promise. oh yea, they're just pandering.

Cotton signed the Club for Growth’s “Repeal-It!” pledge which states, “I hereby pledge to the people of my district/state upon my election to the U.S. House of Representatives/U.S. Senate to sponsor and support legislation to repeal any federal health care takeover passed in 2010, and replace it with real reforms that lower health care costs without growing government.”

100% of Newly Elected GOP Senators Campaigned on Repealing Obamacare | CNS News

and if you actually read the first link I posted, you would see they clearly give the impression, their "work" is done.

Pointless vote for rubes back home. CHECK.

cpwill · Feb 4, 2015

Vern said:
really? republicans promised to have pointless votes for show to pander to a gullible base?

No. They promised to vote against Obamacare. Now they are on record as having done so.

mmmm, I don't mean to be a bother but wasn't the promise "repeal and replace"? Seems kinda short sighted to have pointless repeal votes without offering any specifics on the 'replace" part of that promise.

Gotta knock out the one before you knock out the other.

oh yea, they're just pandering.

Again, I appreciate your continued willingness to highlight your sides' view of making and then keeping promises to the electorate almost as much as I appreciate your willingness to highlight the extent to which they think that the electorate is stupid and gullible.

joG · Feb 4, 2015

cpwill said:
Apparently they think it's the sort of thing you only do when you have to in order to pander to your base.

pandering to your boss by acting according to your mandate is for wimps.

tres borrachos · Feb 4, 2015

Vern said:
“As if begging for a Groundhog Day joke, House Republicans will vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act again on Tuesday. It'll be the 56th shot they've taken at the law, and just like every other time they've tried to erase President Obama's signature achievement, this attempt is doomed to fail.....

So why waste everyone's time with another futile repeal vote? The simple answer, as Boehner himself told Fox News's Bret Baier last week, is they're doing it for the freshmen—that is, the 47 House Republicans who just took office a month ago and have never had the high honor and privilege of voting to repeal Obamacare. By holding the vote, these lawmakers can head back to their districts and tell their constituents that yes, they did everything they could to get rid of the reviled law. "We're just getting it out of the way," one Republican aide told the Washington Examiner, reflecting a sentiment probably shared by a party leadership that has seen this game play out several times already.

Why Republicans Are Voting to Repeal Obamacare

Yep, republicans voted to repeal Obamacare. Yep, they admit it was pointless. Yep, it’s just so freshman members of congress can get their little conservative “merit” badge to show the folks back home. Yep, that's what republican politicians think of their base

While I think these incessant votes on repealing the ACA are silly, isn't this in fact what these people were actually elected to do? It's called a "mandate". Pandering to their voters? No. It's doing what they were elected to do. That isn't pandering. That's living up to what they promised to do.

Vern · Feb 4, 2015

cpwill said:
No. They promised to vote against Obamacare. Now they are on record as having done so.

mmmmm, was the promise really just to vote on it? Well the quote "We're just getting it out of the way," seems to show that's all republicans think they needed to do. which leads to this

Gotta knock out the one before you knock out the other.

besides the fact that you just made up that requirement, I remember ( you and your con friends don't) that the promise was "repeal and replace". If you want to believe it was "repeal then replace" go right ahead but the lack of any real "replacement" shows 2 things: republicans are pandering and they cant come up with something better than Obamacare. Oh please don't tell me they can without any specifics. I've already had countless "magic" plans from your side.

Again, I appreciate your continued willingness to highlight your sides' view of making and then keeping promises to the electorate almost as much as I appreciate your willingness to highlight the extent to which they think that the electorate is stupid and gullible.

maybe if you tried to play to hard to get, republicans would stop pandering to you.

Vern · Feb 4, 2015

tres borrachos said:
While I think these incessant votes on repealing the ACA are silly, isn't this in fact what these people were actually elected to do? It's called a "mandate". Pandering to their voters? No. It's doing what they were elected to do. That isn't pandering. That's living up to what they promised to do.

maybe, just maybe you could call the first couple of votes "not pandering" but the next 50 or so votes were pandering. Lets just say starting from vote 5, it was pandering. And the pandering evolved to " repeal and replace". Once that 7 million people signed up the "repeal" votes didn't really cut it any more. Hence the narrative became "repeal and replace" (not "repeal then replace" as some are wont to think). Which of course begs the question: replace with what? I know the answer will never be answered because Obamacare is exceeding all expectations.

Fearandloathing · Feb 4, 2015

cpwill said:
Anyone else find it interesting that liberals would automatically disparage actually making campaign promises and then keeping them?

Very interesting....

But this is the same bunch of geniuses who backed Harry Reid and his hysterical rants about "terrorists" who did what they told their constituents they would do, "jihadists" for wanting to explain that in debate and and "traitors" for standing by the commitment they made....based purely on one thing.....they disagree with the position.

Now then too, it was this new guy, a hot shot who had answers to everything who kind of created the societe tableau, the man who declared all 'not him' to be "enemies"....Barack Hussein Obama set the tone as only Barrack Husein Obama can. Based now on how 'enemies' are not Islamic radicals nor terrorists ne really does have to wonder where lie his allegiance

Vern · Feb 4, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
Very interesting....

But this is the same bunch of geniuses who backed Harry Reid and his hysterical rants about "terrorists" who did what they told their constituents they would do, "jihadists" for wanting to explain that in debate and and "traitors" for standing by the commitment they made....based purely on one thing.....they disagree with the position.

Now then too, it was this new guy, a hot shot who had answers to everything who kind of created the societe tableau, the man who declared all 'not him' to be "enemies"....Barack Hussein Obama set the tone as only Barrack Husein Obama can. Based now on how 'enemies' are not Islamic radicals nor terrorists ne really does have to wonder where lie his allegiance

I have a question for you FS (I would ask you to back your "claim" but I want you to answer a thread related question instead of cutting and running whenever I ask you to back up you post). Not that its any of your business, do you think a perfunctory vote with the full knowledge that it serves no purpose on just "repeal" meets the campaign promise of "repeal and replace"?

Greenbeard · Feb 4, 2015

Vern said:
really? republicans promised to have pointless votes for show to pander to a gullible base?

Their base asks to be lied to, their reps comply. Meanwhile ACA implementation marches on--10+ million newly insured and counting, health care cost growth at unprecedented lows, and hospitals continuing to up their game to deliver safer, higher quality care.

Everybody wins.

cpwill · Feb 4, 2015

Vern said:
mmmmm, was the promise really just to vote on it?

The President maintains the veto, and Republicans don't have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. This is what we can do now.

Well the quote "We're just getting it out of the way," seems to show that's all republicans think they needed to do. which leads to this

I remember ( you and your con friends don't) that the promise was "repeal and replace".

:shrug: and that's the intent.

If you want to believe it was "repeal then replace" go right ahead but the lack of any real "replacement" shows 2 things: republicans are pandering and they cant come up with something better than Obamacare.

:roll: Republicans have produced multiple HC plans that would make excellent replacements for Obamacare. The "they don't have a plan" schtick was wrong when it began and has only gotten less connected from reality with time.

maybe if you tried to play to hard to get, republicans would stop pandering to you.

A) Republicans just watched the Majority Leader get unseated because he forgot where he came from, and many of them are the result of the tea party movement.
B) I continue to be entertained by your insistence that following a campaign promise qualifies as "pandering". Bit of projection, there?

apdst · Feb 4, 2015

eohrnberger said:
It must be because that's such a foreign concept to them. :lamo

I wouldn't say that. The Democrats promised to screw everything up. I'd say they kept that promise.

eohrnberger · Feb 4, 2015

apdst said:
I wouldn't say that. The Democrats promised to screw everything up. I'd say they kept that promise.

Yeah, but they dress it up as it's going to solve all kinds of problems and be just so much better, but it's not.

Ho hum, Republicans don’t even try to hide their pandering

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