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Ho hum, yet another Benghazi report shreds conservative lies..... again

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lifeisshort said:
This article should have gone in the bias in the media forum, what incredible spin.
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Please, tell us what you think the article is "spinning". As this is a debate forum and not a chat room, its a reasonable request. And after all, if it's so "incredible" it should be easy to cut and paste something from the article and then explain why its spin. Here's the report from from the 7th "investigation". thanks in advance.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/11/21/benghazi.report.pdf
 
Vern said:
Please, tell us what you think the article is "spinning". As this is a debate forum and not a chat room, its a reasonable request. And after all, if it's so "incredible" it should be easy to cut and paste something from the article and then explain why its spin. Here's the report from from the 7th "investigation". thanks in advance.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/11/21/benghazi.report.pdf
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Here ya go Vern. Let Senator Lindsey Graham tell you what he says about it.....as he is not impressed with the House Intel's Report. Being on the Senate Committee that he was part of and what he and that Committee knows.

 
MMC said:
Here ya go Vern. Let Senator Lindsey Graham tell you what he says about it.....as he is not impressed with the House Intel's Report. Being on the Senate Committee that he was part of and what he and that Committee knows.
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MM, I get it, conservatives will look for any excuse to cling to a lying narrative no matter how foul and despicable. Just tell me why I should care about what a republican politician continuing to pander to an ignorant base says instead a republican report? And fyi, this aint the first republican report that said the same thing.
 
Vern said:
MM, I get it, conservatives will look for any excuse to cling to a lying narrative no matter how foul and despicable. Just tell me why I should care about what a republican politician continuing to pander to an ignorant base says instead a republican report? And fyi, this aint the first republican report that said the same thing.
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Whats the matter Vern? Graham points out exactly why the House Intel Report is Bull**** and just about any others. Well.....the only report that matters Vern is the one which is still in progress. The Select Committee.

You don't have their results do you?
 
MMC said:
Whats the matter Vern? Graham points out exactly why the House Intel Report is Bull**** and just about any others. Well.....the only report that matters Vern is the one which is still in progress. The Select Committee.

You don't have their results do you?
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"wah wah, the previous 6 "investigations" didn't tell me what I want to believe. The real truth will come out in the next one, this time we mean it"

thanks for the laughs MM.
 
Vern said:
"wah wah, the previous 6 "investigations" didn't tell me what I want to believe. The real truth will come out in the next one, this time we mean it"

thanks for the laughs MM.
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No, thank you Vern.....for not knowing what you are talking about. From your own link.....you should try to actually read and Comprehend what it is you read. :doh



a Republican-controlled House committee has found. Its report asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration officials.....snip~



Just how, did you miss that when it starts off in your link in its First Paragraph. :roll:
 
MMC said:
No, thank you Vern.....for not knowing what you are talking about. From your own link.....you should try to actually read and Comprehend what it is you read. :doh

a Republican-controlled House committee has found. Its report asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration officials.....snip~

Just how, did you miss that when it starts off in your link in its First Paragraph. :roll:
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and out come the incoherent responses. When all else fails cons will post something that makes no sense. Please explain what you think I posted that makes you think I missed anything in the link. And please explain why the previous 6 "investigations" were crap and why the seventh one is crap and why the eighth one will be the one to finally "expose" the truth.
 
Vern said:
and out come the incoherent responses. When all else fails cons will post something that makes no sense. Please explain what you think I posted that makes you think I missed anything in the link. And please explain why the previous 6 "investigations" were crap and why the seventh one is crap and why the eighth one will be the one to finally "expose" the truth.
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Well Vern, the only thing that is incoherent is what you call your comprehension and your failure to understand English words. But do me a favor quit trying to explain away all your limitations. As I really don't care about all you have......nor how you got them.
 
Vern said:
what was this, the sixth "investigation"? I wish they were this determined to get to the bottom of 9-11. Anyhoo, this report simply reshreds all the conservative narratives. Which brings up a good question, why did conservatives really really really want all those foul lies to be true?

Benghazi report from Republican-led House panel debunks allegations - CBS News
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VERN,

Obama and Hillary and the Democrats and their sychophantic supporters tried to equate a Terrorist attack that killed 4 Americans to a " spontaneous protest " for purely Political reasons.

And here YOU are continuing to minimize the deaths of these 4 people.

You're got class, VERN.

Obama and Hillary didn't even have offsite military assets sufficient enough to counter the terrorist attack let alone offer up a decent rescue plan.

After EVERYONE including the Red Cross bailed out and after terrorist blew a 12 foot hole the Obama administration didn't even put in place a back up plan.

Maybe you're celebrating too soon.
 
Fenton said:
Maybe you're celebrating too soon.
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fenton, only conservatives celebrate tragic events. I'm just pointing out that you and yours were also lying about it.
 
Vern said:
fenton, only conservatives celebrate tragic events. I'm just pointing out that you and yours were also lying about it.
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" Lying "

Who " lied " ??
 
Fenton said:
" Lying "

Who " lied " ??
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wait, is this the same fenton who has never once answered a question I've asked him? but since your question is actually related to my post and not your typical dishonest, delusional and deflecting question, I'll answer it: anybody who claimed there was a stand down order, anybody who said there was a stand down order, anybody who said there were two stand down orders, anybody who said there was an intelligence failure and anybody who accuses President Obama or Rice of lying. Its in the report. Try reading something factual sometime.

And your lack of "who celebrated?" tells me you too celebrated a tragic event. But then you are a con.
 
Vern said:
what was this, the sixth "investigation"? I wish they were this determined to get to the bottom of 9-11. Anyhoo, this report simply reshreds all the conservative narratives. Which brings up a good question, why did conservatives really really really want all those foul lies to be true?

Benghazi report from Republican-led House panel debunks allegations - CBS News
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The eighth Benghazi investigation is being carried out by a House Select Committee appointed in May.
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Honestly, what do they think an eighth investigation is going to uncover that seven previous ones did not?

Most predictable answer in the universe: "The truth." [spoken in Corey Feldman voice circa The Lost Boys]
 
Vern said:
wait, is this the same fenton who has never once answered a question I've asked him? but since your question is actually related to my post and not your typical dishonest, delusional and deflecting question, I'll answer it: anybody who claimed there was a stand down order, anybody who said there was a stand down order, anybody who said there were two stand down orders, anybody who said there was an intelligence failure and anybody who accuses President Obama or Rice of lying. Its in the report. Try reading something factual sometime.

And your lack of "who celebrated?" tells me you too celebrated a tragic event. But then you are a con.
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Seriously ?

Thats what your'e celebrating here ?

Wow your'e desperate.

How could there be a stand down order ?

Hilary and Obama didn't even have a Plan B in place.

No offsite Military assets in place to muster up a defense or a rescue of a Consulate that had been attacked already.

Nothing at all for a Consulate that was the last man standing after EVERYONE got the hell out of that Terrorist nest egg.

No, the best Hillary and Obama could do was LIE to cover their asses.

They even lied to the Family members of those who lost their lives.
 
Fenton said:
Seriously ?

Thats what your'e celebrating here ?

Wow your'e desperate.

How could there be a stand down order ?

Hilary and Obama didn't even have a Plan B in place.

No offsite Military assets in place to muster up a defense or a rescue of a Consulate that had been attacked already.

Nothing at all for a Consulate that was the last man standing after EVERYONE got the hell out of that Terrorist nest egg.

No, the best Hillary and Obama could do was LIE to cover their asses.

They even lied to the Family members of those who lost their lives.
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Well he did say anyone, who said there is an intelligence failure, Right. Do you think faulty intel and significant gaps in the Intelligence, are considered to be successes or failures?

Do you think he even reads his own links?


But Rice's comments were based on faulty intelligence from multiple agencies, according to the report. Analysts received 21 reports that a protest occurred in Benghazi, the report said - 14 from the Open Source Center, which reviews news reports; one from the CIA; two from the Defense Department; and four from the National Security Agency.

"To this day," the report said, "significant intelligence gaps regarding the identities, affiliations and motivations of the attackers remain.".....snip~
 
MMC said:
Here ya go Vern. Let Senator Lindsey Graham tell you what he says about it.....as he is not impressed with the House Intel's Report. Being on the Senate Committee that he was part of and what he and that Committee knows.
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Is Lindsey Graham's whining your last bastion of hope for Benghazi? Weren't you the one posting photos of corpses a year or so ago while screaming at the Obama administration? Seems your fever as cooled a bit, mate.
 
Amadeus said:
Is Lindsey Graham's whining your last bastion of hope for Benghazi? Weren't you the one posting photos of corpses a year or so ago while screaming at the Obama administration? Seems your fever as cooled a bit, mate.
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What.....were you trying to make me laugh. Who was on the Senate Committee that directly questioned the same very people that the House Intel Committee did?

Who filed a lawsuit to compel testimony from the CIA Director and FBI Director? In which those individuals pointed out who changed the talking points and why? Was it the House or Senate?

How much of Benghazi is still classified? What else was the issue of Libya and is connected to the Benghazi incident involving 2 other countries?

Did you miss the part on the differences between a Select Committee as opposed to any others? Can you explain the differences and what makes that significant?
 
Benghazi will be investigated until we're finished with it, and that won't be until those within the administration who made the decisions regarding Benghazi are identified and held accountable. If you prefer to leave those names blank, we're going to fill them in for you.
 
MMC said:
What.....were you trying to make me laugh. Who was on the Senate Committee that directly questioned the same very people that the House Intel Committee did?

Who filed a lawsuit to compel testimony from the CIA Director and FBI Director? In which those individuals pointed out who changed the talking points and why? Was it the House or Senate?

How much of Benghazi is still classified? What else was the issue of Libya and is connected to the Benghazi incident involving 2 other countries?

Did you miss the part on the differences between a Select Committee as opposed to any others? Can you explain the differences and what makes that significant?
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Do you have ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of an Obama administration fabrication and cover-up? That's all I'm interested in.
 
Amadeus said:
Do you have ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of an Obama administration fabrication and cover-up? That's all I'm interested in.
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Yeah, I have a Turk Envoy who had no Embassy in Libya, meeting with Stevens Right before the attack.

Again....what is the difference between the Committees. Also How much of Benghazi is still classified?

Now thats what we are interested in. That which you think you know, yet so far have proved......you don't know much about Benghazi or Libya.

Now the Committee question is a very easy and simple question. Don't run away from it, when it is so easy and simplistic.
 
humbolt said:
Benghazi will be investigated until we're finished with it, and that won't be until those within the administration who made the decisions regarding Benghazi are identified and held accountable. If you prefer to leave those names blank, we're going to fill them in for you.
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that’s the problem HB, there are no blanks to fill in. they were all “filled in” with the first investigation. But since republicans have no problem using a tragedy for political gain we got 7 more investigations. And they haven’t found anything different than the first one. yet you continue to think the “truth” is just around the corner. Since conservatives will never hold republicans accountable for such vile and disgusting lies, they will continue to lie to you.

Republicans know that conservatives have an emotional need to believe such vile and disgusting lies. Remember when you really really really believed President Obama was born in Kenya? It’s the same thing. They wont stop lying to you until you stop listening.
 
MMC said:
Yeah, I have a Turk Envoy who had no Embassy in Libya, meeting with Stevens Right before the attack.

Again....what is the difference between the Committees.
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I didn't really know, so I asked Wikipedia.

A select or special committee of the United States Congress is a congressional committee appointed to perform a special function that is beyond the authority or capacity of a standing committee. A select committee is usually created by a resolution that outlines its duties and powers and the procedures for appointing members. Select and special committees are often investigative in nature, rather than legislative, though some select and special committees have the authority to draft and report legislation.

A select committee generally expires on completion of its assigned duties, though they can be renewed. Several select committees are treated as standing committees by House and Senate rules, and are permanent fixtures in both bodies continuing from one congress to the next. Examples of this are the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in the House and the Select Committee on Intelligence in the Senate. The Senate Indian Affairs Committee is also a select committee, though the name select is no longer a part of its title.[1]

Some 20th-century select committees are called special committees, such as the Senate Special Committee on Aging. However, they do not differ in any substantive way from the others.[2]
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That which you think you know, yet so far have proved......you don't know much about Benghazi or Libya.
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The question is what is the scandal now, not what scandal can you dig up after a Republican fishing expedition.
 
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