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Hillary Clinton No Longer Believes That Companies Create Jobs.....

SheWolf said:
It's amazing how you write something and don't comprehend your own words. Companies provide supply. The market either wants what the company creates, or it doesn't. Companies don't force people to like or buy something.
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LOL. Actually, you should read your own words, and then ask the same question you asked me. If a company invests capital in a product that is new to the market, and it doesn't sell, there was no demand, and it was risk that didn't pay off. If it does sell, they created the demand by providing the product.

Company's develop new products all the time, and create demand through marketing and other means. It doesn't matter how much money people have to spend. Those who are pushing the living wage meme have a complete disconnect from reality and from how the business of manufacturing products works.
 
SheWolf said:
Not all products companies produce are successful. Engineers don't necessarily create products for the sake of "creating demand." Many engineers design something practical, logical, necessary, and something that simplifies life. Economics is largely a social science that involves understanding and predicting people's behavior based on trends and basic human needs.

Some of you talk like no matter what a company throws at the market, it will be demanded as if there are no fundamental economic principles guiding human behavior in the market.

Companies create supply for the market, and the market decides what products are superior... The market decides what products become obsolete... The market decides what products declines and falls in demand, etc. Companies do not play the role of "demand" in the market. They simply supply the demands of the market.
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Not all products companies produce are successful.

No way! Really? I didn't know that. I thought every product ever rolled out in the history of the world was a success!
 
tres borrachos said:
Not all products companies produce are successful.

No way! Really? I didn't know that. I thought every product ever rolled out in the history of the world was a success!
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Mornin TB. :2wave: Well Hillary tried to walk back her comments Monday. Do you think the left can figure out what it means by walk-back. Must mean there was some sort of mistake huh.....and having nothing to do with her being taken out of context like the libs around here would have you believe.

You do have to remember they are not so much up on whats current in the News.
 
Grant said:
You haven't noticed the success of drive in or drive through restaurants? Many innovations occurred before our time but we should still undrstand a good idea when we see it.

In fact people are frequently inventing things that no one wants to buy. Predicting the futures market is not an east science. If it was we'd all be rich.
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Predicting the futures market = measuring demand.
 
tres borrachos said:
Not all products companies produce are successful.

No way! Really? I didn't know that. I thought every product ever rolled out in the history of the world was a success!
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And what caused them to be unsuccessful? Defects, causing the items to be dangerous? Or that they simply don't work as claimed? Poor quality? Excessive cost?

This is me listing reasons why an item might not be in DEMAND, which would cause a company to go under.
 
KevinKohler said:
He sure did. By filling a demand.
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Any demand he filled was being filled previously. He just did it better.

Sam Walton's contribution to mass marketing was the distribution center. He didn't create retail, he just added a feature to it that had not previously been exploited.

In the process, he created 2.2 million jobs. People filled those jobs who previously did not have those jobs. The demand was pre-existing. The jobs were not.

If demand created those jobs, there would have been no employees for Walton to have hired. They would have already been employed by demand. Strangely enough, they were not. Go figure...
 
KevinKohler said:
The owner?
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Explain how demand "hired" the employer.

Explain the benefits offered by Demand and employment contract that Demand signed to employ the owner.

Please post the tax return completed by demand after the business that he hired the owner to own turned a profit.

I'm only asking for proof in the real world of your poetry induced fantasy.
 
KevinKohler said:
I can't speak to that, because I assume it was way before my time...but here's the thing. It's ALWAYS a risk, even if what you are presuming to offer is in demand. And there must have been SOME inkling of demand here, or the person would not have risked it. You don't try to invent something you know no one will want. Logic.
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If the demand is pre-existing and no entrepreneur ever risks his time, fortune and energy to pursue it so no company is ever established, how many employees did Demand hire?

I'll give you a hint: none.
 
KevinKohler said:
Predicting the futures market = measuring demand.
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No, it's not that easy. Was there are demand for hula hoops or cabbage patch kids? There was certainly no demand for the telephone, or a family computer. "Measuring demand" for new products is not an exact science, if it is a science at all. It is often just what people believe and the risks they are willing to take in order to follow through with their beliefs.
 
SheWolf said:
Not all products companies produce are successful. Engineers don't necessarily create products for the sake of "creating demand." Many engineers design something practical, logical, necessary, and something that simplifies life. Economics is largely a social science that involves understanding and predicting people's behavior based on trends and basic human needs.

Some of you talk like no matter what a company throws at the market, it will be demanded as if there are no fundamental economic principles guiding human behavior in the market.

Companies create supply for the market, and the market decides what products are superior... The market decides what products become obsolete... The market decides what products declines and falls in demand, etc. Companies do not play the role of "demand" in the market. They simply supply the demands of the market.
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Now that's interesting. Do those engineers or workers who create products or work for companies which eventually fail (say, Kodak) have jobs?

But how can they have jobs, if there was no demand for their product, if it is the demand that creates the jobs?
 
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