Forum Poster Composite of Political Ideologies

[spud_meister]

This is where I was not long after I joined:

 

[Slartibartfast]

a little more left than I would have expected, but mainly because there wasn't much in the way of pure economic questions.

 

[DDD]

This is where I was not long after I joined:

Proof that positions do not change?

 

[spud_meister]

Proof that positions do not change?

My positions have changed a lot, but not in ways reflected by these sorts of tests. Overall it's still similar, but my views are a lot more nuanced, and my reasons for having them have changed.

 

[tres borrachos]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.08



It kind of surprised me. My "strongly disagree" answers came at the end which were all very non-right answers (same sex couples not being able to adopt, sex outside of marriage, religious & morality, etc.) and my "strongly agrees" were about decriminalizing marijuana and other things. I would think those would put me more in the middle.

 

[Unrepresented]

Yeah, that's about right. It's about where it was the last time I took the test.

You're in my neighborhood.

 

[Karl]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.08

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It kind of surprised me. My "strongly disagree" answers came at the end which were all very non-right answers (same sex couples not being able to adopt, sex outside of marriage, religious & morality, etc.) and my "strongly agrees" were about decriminalizing marijuana and other things. I would think those would put me more in the middle.

Those are social questions and comprise the up/down part on this test.

Economic questions are the left/right part.

So, socially you are pretty much in the middle, while the quiz says economically you're somewhat to the right ("conservative", in the U.S. lexicon).

 

[Karl]

 

[tres borrachos]

Those are social questions and comprise the up/down part on this test.

Economic questions are the left/right part.

So, socially you are pretty much in the middle, while the quiz says economically you're somewhat to the right ("conservative", in the U.S. lexicon).

Yes that makes sense. I am more left leaning on social issues and more right leaning on economic issues. I'm surprised I'm considered "middle" on social issues considering I support more liberal leans (same sex marriage, gay rights, abortion rights). These tests always confound me as far as their methodologies for scoring, which tend to vary from test to test.

 

[TeleKat]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.08

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It kind of surprised me. My "strongly disagree" answers came at the end which were all very non-right answers (same sex couples not being able to adopt, sex outside of marriage, religious & morality, etc.) and my "strongly agrees" were about decriminalizing marijuana and other things. I would think those would put me more in the middle.

Right/left is economics. Social is up/down.

 

[John Mays Lives]

I didn't even make it out of the center square.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

I'm not particularly sure how one ends up in the purple quadrant, tbqh.

Quite easily. If you're socially liberal (i.e. I don't think the government should be in control of my body) and you're financially conservative (i.e. I don't think the government is an endless money make-it-rain machine.), you're likely to wind up in the purple box.

I would say most Americans fall in either the green or purple boxes, so why is it hard to believe? The question you should be asking is what kind of asshole ends up in the red box? Neither social nor financial freedom? Hmm...

 

[TeleKat]

Quite easily. If you're socially liberal (i.e. I don't think the government should be in control of my body) and you're financially conservative (i.e. I don't think the government is an endless money make-it-rain machine.), you're likely to wind up in the purple box.

I would say most Americans fall in either the green or purple boxes, so why is it hard to believe? The question you should be asking is what kind of asshole ends up in the red box? Neither social nor financial freedom? Hmm...

How does being on the economic left presuppose that you support federal reserve policies or are against economic freedom?

 

[RabidAlpaca]

How does being on the economic left presuppose that you support federal reserve policies or are against economic freedom?

I wanted to keep it short so I used an oversimplification. The endless money part implying the fed and fiat currency and the make it rain part representing the handouts. The more you want the government to do things the more you'll have to decrease economic freedom of the taxpayers.

 

[TeleKat]

I wanted to keep it short so I used an oversimplification. The endless money part implying the fed and fiat currency and the make it rain part representing the handouts. The more you want the government to do things the more you'll have to decrease economic freedom of the taxpayers.

I still don't see how that's an inherent part of economic leftism. There are economically left philosophies that advocate for minimalist or even anarchist states.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

I still don't see how that's an inherent part of economic leftism. There are economically left philosophies that advocate for minimalist or even anarchist states.

Well, if you think there's a reasonable alternative, I'd like to hear how you think everything should function. I tried to talk to Ikari once about Left-Libertarianism but he's a dick and ignored me.

I've drifted left a bit since I came to DP so I've got an open mind so make your case.

 

[TeleKat]

Well, if you think there's a reasonable alternative, I'd like to hear how you think everything should function. I tried to talk to Ikari once about Left-Libertarianism but he's a dick and ignored me.

I've drifted left a bit since I came to DP so I've got an open mind so make your case.

Geoist is pretty nice and he actually introduced me to left-libertarian ideas a few months back. Not even sure if he entirely remembers.

Left-Libertarianism is about as comprehensive as Right-Libertarianism, which is to say that there are many little philosophies within the lean. I tend to be ideally for a left-wing market anarchy though pragmatically (anarchism is quite unfeasible in the current social climate) I am a left-wing market minimalist. I advocate for left-wing economic principles like common property ownership, anti-capitalism, worker solidarity, etc. however I advocate for this all to be done on a voluntary basis as much as feasibly possible, because government is generally just a mouthpiece for big corporations.

 

[Fiddytree]

I'm either mellowing with age or mixed up an answer. I'm pretty sure that I used to be farther right.

I've also found that on a given day, you can read into a question differently and respond accordingly. This has, on occasion, shifted me either close to where you are presently found, or in fact, a tish in the Red Square (which our esteemed RapidApalca declared was the domain of the asshole). :mrgreen:

 

[Lutherf]

I've also found that on a given day, you can read into a question differently and respond accordingly. This has, on occasion, shifted me either close to where you are presently found, or in fact, a tish in the Red Square (which our esteemed RapidApalca declared was the domain of the asshole). :mrgreen:

Usually I come out a bit farther to the right on economics. I'm not a big authoritarian though much of what passes for "libertarianism" today strikes me as being closer to anarchy than I'm comfortable with.

 

[mpg]

Economic Left/Right: 1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

 

[JayDubya]

How does being on the economic left presuppose that you... are against economic freedom?

Because being on the economic left means you think that having the state take other people's property and redistributing it as they see fit sounds like a good idea.

Since we respect voluntarily association and voluntary contract and strong property rights, the economic right allows for people with leftist sensibilities to voluntarily form their own communes where they share everything; it's their property, after all, so they can do with it as they see fit.

The left makes no such allowances.

 

[TeleKat]

Because being on the economic left means you think that having the state take other people's property and redistributing it as they see fit sounds like a good idea.

That's not what the economic left is.......

 

[Gathomas88]

I thought I was rather laissez-faire on business except on pollution while taking the quiz. I hardly see holding corporations accountable for their actions as "anti-business."

Really? Even on the question of Globalization?

Frankly, the Globalization question just pissed me off.

Who in the Hell is going to argue that economic development shouldn't ultimately benefit humanity? The only question is how, exactly, it would go about doing that.

Personally, I think the "trickle down" approach works just fine. However, the question comes off like it's asking you to support Global Communism.

 

[grip]

Frankly, the Globalization question just pissed me off.

Who in the Hell is going to argue that economic development shouldn't ultimately benefit humanity? The only question is how, exactly, it would go about doing that.

Personally, I think the "trickle down" approach works just fine. However, the question comes off like it's asking you to support Global Communism.

In question one about Globalization, corporations already do serve humanity, as well as their own interests. They're not necessarily chairties to the extent of being unprofitable, but they do seem to follow the path, as a majority, of profit at any cost.


The problem with the current corporate mentality is that 'business is war' concept or 'scorched earth' approach, and that they can separate their success from humanities, when in actuality the better their consumers are doing, as a whole, the more wealth they'll accumulate.


The second big relevant question is, 'there is now a worrying fusion of information and entertainment.' Business, entertainment, political correctness have all corrupted our national thought process to the point of damage. No longer do we base decisions on legal premises or overall fairness, it comes from the juvenile, emotional rants of Media pundants and anchors. They talk about good and evil like middle school kids, rather than analyze events with sober, mature judgment.

 

[gdgyva]

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