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Ann Coulter: If You Vote Libertarian, Give Me Your Address So I Can Drown You

Ann Coulter is a troll. Meh.
 
Ann Coulter: If You Vote Libertarian, Give Me Your Address So I Can Drown You
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this was my experience as a libertarian :

Republicans spend four years throwing stones at you, and calling you a loserdopian. then when the election comes, they come up to you and demand a vote. **** all that.

i'm no longer libertarian, but i have not forgotten the way i was treated by Republicans when i was one.

"why do you want to help the terrrrrrist, loserterian? LOLWTFBBQ"

:roll:
 
TeleKat said:
Ann Coulter: Libertarian voters are

I'm so scared. Ann Coulter is coming for me! :scared:

:lol:

What a nut.
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ann coulter has always been one,but shes like rush limbaugh,not a seruious commentator or debator,but an entertainer.

fyi both parties fear libertarians,simply because if they continue to grow,they will affect the duopoly.not just libertarians,but any third party,libertarians though are currently the most succsesfull.
 
Did ann Coulter have a problem with 53,000 voters in Florida voting for Ralph Nader?
Giving us the previous disastrous decade.
After all, she supported a Libertarian taking out Eric Cantor .
 
NIMBY said:
Did ann Coulter have a problem with 53,000 voters in Florida voting for Ralph Nader?
Giving us the previous disastrous decade.
After all, she supported a Libertarian taking out Eric Cantor .
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A Libertarian took out Cantor? When??
 
The GOP used to embrace Libertarians.
Don't they understand the definition of a Libertarian, one who will be pushed away at being dictated to ?
 
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Fiddytree said:
-Rise in libertarian philosophy after Barry Goldwater's rise and fall to Ronald Reagan
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Are you trying to say that Ronald Reagan was a libertarian??

:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
In the recent GOP primary in Virginia.
Plus, a Libertarian named Sarvis is blamed by Coulter and bunch for McAuliffe winning the governor's race in VA.
We have a Libertarian in Illinois who GOP hedge-funder Rauner has been trying to force off the ballot.
The poor guy has had $100,000 in legal fees so far .

TeleKat said:
A Libertarian took out Cantor? When??
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TeleKat said:
Are you trying to say that Ronald Reagan was a libertarian??

:lamo:lamo:lamo
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Certainly not. In campaign mode, he was a fusionist. In practicality, his governing style often mirrored the neoconservatives (often because of negotiation). The power of fusionism, however, was that it echoed many concerns of the libertarians.
 
Twelve states have Libertarians running for the Senate.

The strongest are in Alaska, Arkansas, Kentucky and North Carolina.

The other eight are WV, MY, VA, ORE, CO, MIN, IA, MI and NH .
 
Fiddytree said:
Certainly not. In campaign mode, he was a fusionist. In practicality, his governing style often mirrored the neoconservatives (often because of negotiation). The power of fusionism, however, was that it echoed many concerns of the libertarians.
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So basically what you're saying is that he, during his campaigns, spewed libertarian(ish) rhetoric to get elected, ditched the rhetoric once in office, and this somehow shows that the GOP had a libertarian stint sometime in it's history.

Do I have this right?
 
Many call themselves Libertarian-Right also.
TeleKat said:
Dave Bratt is a far-right Tea Partier conservative....
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The uniqueness in this race--both candidates are professors at the same college .
 
TeleKat said:
Ann Coulter: Libertarian voters are

I'm so scared. Ann Coulter is coming for me! :scared:

:lol:

What a nut.
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If the Republicans would start giving us good candidates, perhaps more people would vote for them. Does the names Aiken, Mourdock, Angle mean anything. Actually I am sick and tired of both major parties as it does seem the only either party cares about is their party. They have a monopoly on our political system and they write the election laws to ensure that monopoly stays in place.
 
NIMBY said:
Twelve states have Libertarians running for the Senate.

The strongest are in Alaska, Arkansas, Kentucky and North Carolina.

The other eight are WV, MY, VA, ORE, CO, MIN, IA, MI and NH .
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We have Libertarian Candidates for both the senate and governor in Georgia. We have a Libertarian elected in the 21st district of our state legislature and several others on city councils. Hunt the Libertarian candidate for governor is polling 7% and Swafford the Libertarian for the senate is polling at 5%. The goal for the Libertarian Party is to get 20% of the vote in any statewide race, that would mean automatic ballot access.
 
NIMBY said:
Many call themselves Libertarian-Right also.

The uniqueness in this race--both candidates are professors at the same college .
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Really nothing about Dave Bratt is libertarian though. Libertarian-Right or otherwise. He's a conservative. Self-described and in principle.
 
Perotista said:
We have Libertarian Candidates for both the senate and governor in Georgia. We have a Libertarian elected in the 21st district of our state legislature and several others on city councils. Hunt the Libertarian candidate for governor is polling 7% and Swafford the Libertarian for the senate is polling at 5%. The goal for the Libertarian Party is to get 20% of the vote in any statewide race, that would mean automatic ballot access.
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Florida has a congressional candidate polling 31%+ :mrgreen:

Sadly, that's not a statewide race. But it's a start!
 
TeleKat said:
Florida has a congressional candidate polling 31%+ :mrgreen:

Sadly, that's not a statewide race. But it's a start!
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What I wonder is if there are more people like me who is just disgusted with both parties. It doesn't matter who wins the Georgia senate race. If the republican wins he will not represent Georgia, he will represent the Republican Party. If the Democrat wins, she won't represent the people of Georgia either, she will represent the Democratic Party.

Elections nowadays isn't about electing someone to represent you or the people. It is about election someone to represent the Republican or Democratic Party in Washington. Because of this I have vowed to vote for both Hunt and Swafford, if they do win I think they would do a better job of representing the people of Georgia than either the party hacks of Perdue or Nunn.
 
TeleKat said:
So basically what you're saying is that he, during his campaigns, spewed libertarian(ish) rhetoric to get elected, ditched the rhetoric once in office, and this somehow shows that the GOP had a libertarian stint sometime in it's history.

Do I have this right?
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TeleKat said:
So basically what you're saying is that he, during his campaigns, spewed libertarian(ish) rhetoric to get elected, ditched the rhetoric once in office, and this somehow shows that the GOP had a libertarian stint sometime in it's history.

Do I have this right?
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You're partly getting it, but not quite. The emphasis of the (then) modern conservative movement was a molding of libertarian philosophy with social conservatism. With the Reagan administration and elected officials that along the ride, there was a dramatic increase in interest in libertarianism (broadly speaking, even if not by name). Reagan, however, like any elected official, has to operate with constraints. Budget cuts were significant, but often within programs that had little institutional defense (most frequently programs for the poor and so on). Those with defense attached to them were not substantially hit. Reagan also had the soft-spot for FDR and the New Deal (which in some ways mirrored the neoconservatives). That being said, there was certainly more emphasis for rolling back government presence to an extent that was not comfortable for a majority of Truman or Kennedy Democrats.
 
Perotista said:
What I wonder is if there are more people like me who is just disgusted with both parties. It doesn't matter who wins the Georgia senate race. If the republican wins he will not represent Georgia, he will represent the Republican Party. If the Democrat wins, she won't represent the people of Georgia either, she will represent the Democratic Party.

Elections nowadays isn't about electing someone to represent you or the people. It is about election someone to represent the Republican or Democratic Party in Washington. Because of this I have vowed to vote for both Hunt and Swafford, if they do win I think they would do a better job of representing the people of Georgia than either the party hacks of Perdue or Nunn.
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I can understand that feeling, because once they are elected to office they should not ignore and dismiss the other party (that represents a lot of people). However, I remember President Bush reached out to the other side of the aisle with education and medicare (amongst other things) and it didn't seem to help. Too much hate going on. Obama and Democrats in office ignore the Republicans...that was shown with Obamacare and everything else. It just causes more divisiveness in the country.
 
Porchev said:
I can understand that feeling, because once they are elected to office they should not ignore and dismiss the other party (that represents a lot of people). However, I remember President Bush reached out to the other side of the aisle with education and medicare (amongst other things) and it didn't seem to help. Too much hate going on. Obama and Democrats in office ignore the Republicans...that was shown with Obamacare and everything else. It just causes more divisiveness in the country.
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It is a two way street my friend. But you are right that this country is more divided than it ever was with the exception of just prior to the civil war.

Voters See A More Divided Nation; GOPers More Enthusiastic to Vote - Rasmussen Reports™
 
Fiddytree said:
You're partly getting it, but not quite. The emphasis of the (then) modern conservative movement was a molding of libertarian philosophy with social conservatism.
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That's fundamentally impossible. When a libertarian becomes a social conservative they cease to be libertarian. The two ideas are inherently contradictory in every possible way.

And, even if it were somehow possible, that would presuppose that the GOP is, or ever has been, libertarian on everything other than social issues. Which it is not.

Making the case that the GOP is libertarian on any level shows a juvenile understanding of the idea. You generally have stellar political commentary, albeit questionable principles, but you've got this one wrong.
 
TeleKat said:
That's fundamentally impossible. When a libertarian becomes a social conservative they cease to be libertarian. The two ideas are inherently contradictory in every possible way.
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The difference between a capital L and a lower-case l is all the difference. I implore you to read more conservative intellectual history on the development of fusionism to see that in fact it can be done, because it had been done.
 
Fiddytree said:
The difference between a capital L and a lower-case l is all the difference. I implore you to read more conservative intellectual history on the development of fusionism to see that in fact it can be done, because it had been done.
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Conservatism and libertarianism are two entirely separate and contradictory ideas.
 
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