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Third Time's a Charm: Romney Leads GOP Hopefuls

Jerry said:
Thats what I did last time and when my guy failed the primary, the election was over. It didn't matter who won after that, they weren't my guy so they weren't getting my vote.
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That's why it pays to be a Centrist. Our only gripe is when an extremist captures the nomination in one of the two parties. Hillary strikes me as an extremist.
 
Kobie said:
I'm right on Lake Ontario. We get plenty of it.
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I used to do a lot of work for Kodak, back when film was how pictures were taken. Nice area. But then again, I'm originally from Chicago and spent 10 years in Western Michigan.
 
calamity said:
That's why it pays to be a Centrist. Our only gripe is when an extremist captures the nomination in one of the two parties. Hillary strikes me as an extremist.
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I have no issue with Centrists per-se, but Centrism requires that I compromise on issues there should be no further compromising on.

Like imigration. We've had more than enough policy on it over the years, time to put the wall up, and no more policy until the wall is up.

Or gun-control: you should only have to prove your age and citizenship. Nothing else. In compromise an FFL can run your backround and sure a training class isn't so bad. But that means no machiengun ban or arbitrary gun-free zones.

Or taxation: the government needs some base funding for its few and far between functions, so a flat 10% on income with no exeptions or exemptions of any kind; no tax free status, is apropriot. But in exchange for getting any taxes at all, the government does not engage in ongoing war, maintain a large military, have a national health insurance program, no board of education, no Patrot Act, no TARP, no 'Stimulus', etc.

Centrist means perpetual giving in and Im not for that.
 
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calamity said:
I used to do a lot of work for Kodak, back when film was how pictures were taken. Nice area. But then again, I'm originally from Chicago and spent 10 years in Western Michigan.
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Kodak is pretty much dead; it still exists in name only but it has mostly been sold off or broken apart into smaller independent companies. But fortunately the health care system here is top notch and employs a ton of people and we have a growing nanotech industry as well.
 
calamity said:
Hillary could easily lose traditionally Blue States. Michigan, Penn, and Wisconsin, maybe even NJ and CT, could easily go Red if Clinton is the nominee. Add to that Ohio and Florida--two states she'll never win---and you've got a great chance for the right GOP candidate.

Of course, all that goes to hell if the base get their Rick Perry-Rick Santorum-Mike Huckabee type to lead their ticket. Those guys don't win those states...not even against Hillary.
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Hmm, I think with Hillary as the nominee the Democrats have nothing to fear in losing Penn, Conn, Wis or NJ. It would take an exceptional nominee on behalf of the GOP for that to happen. As of this point in time, I just do not see one on the horizon. Kasich seems to be just about the closest. I do agree with you on the Santorum/Huckabee type of candidate.

But perhaps it is getting close to the time to start speculating whom Hillary would have as her VP. Someone young is probably a must. A Jim Webb from Virginia could probably ensure Virginia and perhaps North Carolina goes to the Dems. I have a couple of others but I would like to see what happens in November before I broach them.
 
Perotista said:
Hmm, I think with Hillary as the nominee the Democrats have nothing to fear in losing Penn, Conn, Wis or NJ. It would take an exceptional nominee on behalf of the GOP for that to happen. As of this point in time, I just do not see one on the horizon. Kasich seems to be just about the closest. I do agree with you on the Santorum/Huckabee type of candidate.

But perhaps it is getting close to the time to start speculating whom Hillary would have as her VP. Someone young is probably a must. A Jim Webb from Virginia could probably ensure Virginia and perhaps North Carolina goes to the Dems. I have a couple of others but I would like to see what happens in November before I broach them.
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Web would help balance the ticket ideologically as well.
 
Kobie said:
Kodak is pretty much dead; it still exists in name only but it has mostly been sold off or broken apart into smaller independent companies. But fortunately the health care system here is top notch and employs a ton of people and we have a growing nanotech industry as well.
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Yeah. High tech helped carry this area during the recession, when automotive jobs dried up. Ours are defense related: aircraft wing technology, sensors, radar development, and other fancy stuff useful for flying drones. I worked on rail gun/launch technology for Navy aircraft carriers until more enjoyable automotive related jobs came back.
 
If Sherrod Brown ran, he'd get my vote.
 
AJiveMan said:
If Sherrod Brown ran, he'd get my vote.
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The joy of living in Ohio, two very reasonable senators and a sensible governor who learns from his mistakes. Of course, it helps when you can ignore Boehner and Kucinich.
 
jamesrage said:
Running a RINO such as Romney will most certainly ensure the Democrat's presidential victory.
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this country is badly in need of is someone who knows how to get things done.
Romney is the only one who fits that bill. But its no surity that he wants to run again but he one of the other alligned themselves with him and people knew he would take over Treasury say, that would be a huge boost.

Amature hour has been a disaster, an unqualified disaster.
 
Third Time's a Charm: Romney Leads GOP Hopefuls
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....and the GOP will lose for a third time. Not that the other contenders are much better though. GOP is screwed with their current crop of losers. You either have far-right Tea Party nutjobs or establishment shills. Which is worse? I honestly have no clue. :shrug:
 
The GOP has a 3rd option that is either flying under the radar or just being underestimated >>> Rand Paul.
His number one strategy is to take a different position on as many issues as he can with his fellow GOPs as well as HRC,
who he continues to hammer relentlessly every day with no answer--can we all remember Dukakis?
TeleKat said:
....and the GOP will lose for a third time. Not that the other contenders are much better though. GOP is screwed with their current crop of losers. You either have far-right Tea Party nutjobs or establishment shills. Which is worse? I honestly have no clue. :shrug:
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He's running to the left of George McGovern, let alone HRC and his own GOP, on foreign affairs.
He was NOT invited to the "Adelson" summit, a huge supporter of Israel, who Paul has stated in the past we should cut off aid to.
In fact he wants to cut off foreign aid to everybody, like his Father.

He's still paying lip service to social cons on abortion.

He's dancing around all his past positions against the civil rights act.

And trying to make inroads with the Black community while the rest of his GOP ignores them.

And was outfront criticizing the war machine at Ferguson, though Cruz also tried that.

And his ACE in the whole is what I call the AMASH coalition, which barely lost in this Congress.
This is where he picks off the young, the liberal Sanders DEms, OWS and TEA-partiers with his anti-drone, anti-spying, anti-Patriot Act et al.

I predict in 2020 he goes 3rd party if he loses the GOP primary for POTUS in 2016--he will need a billionaire.
He's planning to run for Senator in 2016 also, possibly running for two offices--that's all for now .
 
NIMBY said:
The GOP has a 3rd option that is either flying under the radar or just being underestimated >>> Rand Paul.
His number one strategy is to take a different position on as many issues as he can with his fellow GOPs as well as HRC,
who he continues to hammer relentlessly every day with no answer--can we all remember Dukakis?


He's running to the left of George McGovern, let alone HRC and his own GOP, on foreign affairs.
He was NOT invited to the "Adelson" summit, a huge supporter of Israel, who Paul has stated in the past we should cut off aid to.
In fact he wants to cut off foreign aid to everybody, like his Father.

He's still paying lip service to social cons on abortion.

He's dancing around all his past positions against the civil rights act.

And trying to make inroads with the Black community while the rest of his GOP ignores them.

And was outfront criticizing the war machine at Ferguson, though Cruz also tried that.

And his ACE in the whole is what I call the AMASH coalition, which barely lost in this Congress.
This is where he picks off the young, the liberal Sanders DEms, OWS and TEA-partiers with his anti-drone, anti-spying, anti-Patriot Act et al.

I predict in 2020 he goes 3rd party if he loses the GOP primary for POTUS in 2016--he will need a billionaire.
He's planning to run for Senator in 2016 also, possibly running for two offices--that's all for now .
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Hey Nimby :2wave:

Here's an article that might intrigue you.

The Screeching Kettle: Republicans are the new Democrats, Democrats are the new Republicans
 
calamity said:
Well with nut cases like Rick Perry and Rand Paul to choose from, or when looking at yet another Bush, and knowing Paul Ryan and Chris Christie are not likable, it's no real wonder that the Iowa Caucus picked Mitt. Huckabee is his closest contender, especially now that Rubio pooped in the GOP's bowl of Wheaties.

The amazing resurrection of Mitt Romney

Maybe the GOP isn't so dumb after all. Americans would most certainly vote for Mitt over Hillary. That's a given.
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Please tell me they will dust off Santorum and Bachmann. Please...pretty please.....:lamo

SNL needs to make a comeback!
 
calamity said:
The joy of living in Ohio, two very reasonable senators and a sensible governor who learns from his mistakes. Of course, it helps when you can ignore Boehner and Kucinich.
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I can agree with you on that.
 
dogtowner said:
this country is badly in need of is someone who knows how to get things done.
Romney is the only one who fits that bill. But its no surity that he wants to run again but he one of the other alligned themselves with him and people knew he would take over Treasury say, that would be a huge boost.

Amature hour has been a disaster, an unqualified disaster.
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I am a conservative I refuse to vote for libs regardless if that lib has a D or R next to his name. Hopefully the republicans have learned their lesson after trying to prop up a RINO in 2008 and RINO in 2012.Because if the republicans are retarded enough to prop up another RINO then you can say hello to another democrat president.
 
calamity said:
:roll:
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When a rabid lib such as yourself is practically saying a candidate is a good choice for the GOP it should be a indicator to anyone that candidate is bad news.
 
jamesrage said:
I am a conservative I refuse to vote for libs regardless if that lib has a D or R next to his name. Hopefully the republicans have learned their lesson after trying to prop up a RINO in 2008 and RINO in 2012.Because if the republicans are retarded enough to prop up another RINO then you can say hello to another democrat president.
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There are no conservatives just as there are no liberals. They're just splinter groups with in the Republican/Democratic parties. When and if these splinter groups get the intestinal fortitude to strike out and form their own parties that will give them a chance to see if the American people support their platforms. Until then they can feel safe staying under the umbrella and protection of the Republican/Democratic parties.
 
year2late said:
Please tell me they will dust off Santorum and Bachmann. Please...pretty please.....:lamo

SNL needs to make a comeback!
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Bachmann probably won't but Santorum just might.
 
jamesrage said:
When a rabid lib such as yourself is practically saying a candidate is a good choice for the GOP it should be a indicator to anyone that candidate is bad news.
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I'm sure that to you anyone Left of Dick Cheney is a bleeding heart.
 
calamity said:
Well with nut cases like Rick Perry and Rand Paul to choose from, or when looking at yet another Bush, and knowing Paul Ryan and Chris Christie are not likable, it's no real wonder that the Iowa Caucus picked Mitt. Huckabee is his closest contender, especially now that Rubio pooped in the GOP's bowl of Wheaties.

The amazing resurrection of Mitt Romney

Maybe the GOP isn't so dumb after all. Americans would most certainly vote for Mitt over Hillary. That's a given.
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Yeah, but in all reality, NO.

Opinion poll from just a month ago, when asked:

"And suppose that a presidential election were being held today and you had to choose between Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney. Who would you be more likely to vote for?" If unsure: "As of today, do you lean more toward . . . ?"

Hillary Clinton (D) 55%

Mitt Romney (R) 42%

It was a CNN/ORC Poll. July 18-20, 2014. N=1,012 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.

WH2016: General

The man could not win against an unpopular Barack Obama and from the poll numbers we can see that he is not likely to win from Hillary either. People have looked at him and judged him as someone not worthy of the white house. No magic underwear in the white house just yet.
 
Kobie said:
Ohio also has a disproportionate number of astronauts, which makes me wonder what the hell is so bad about Ohio that so many people are willing to be shot into space to get away from. ;)
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I thought it was because they are so close to Canada.
 
dogtowner said:
Amature hour has been a disaster, an unqualified disaster.
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I'm sure Ted Mack would love this guy.

Screw me once shame on you.

Screw me twice shame on me.

Screw me three times vote Hillary.
 
Peter King said:
Yeah, but in all reality, NO.

Opinion poll from just a month ago, when asked:

"And suppose that a presidential election were being held today and you had to choose between Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney. Who would you be more likely to vote for?" If unsure: "As of today, do you lean more toward . . . ?"

Hillary Clinton (D) 55%

Mitt Romney (R) 42%

It was a CNN/ORC Poll. July 18-20, 2014. N=1,012 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.

WH2016: General

The man could not win against an unpopular Barack Obama and from the poll numbers we can see that he is not likely to win from Hillary either. People have looked at him and judged him as someone not worthy of the white house. No magic underwear in the white house just yet.
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Hillary will not get 55% of the vote. I'd put money on it.
 
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