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What's Really Behind Boehner's Lawsuit against President Obama?

Summerwind said:
It would certainly have been more cost effective, more cost controlling, easier to roll out, etc, if they'd just done a one page upgrade to Medicare and opened it to everyone who wanted it, though imo it would have been good to open it in stages of 10 years such that 2010 Medicare would be available for those 52 and older, then in 2011 those 42 and older, and such, with immediate enrollment for anyone of any age that was being denied insurance due to "pre-existing conditions".
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I would agree if Medicare weren't already a financial mess. What they should have done is addressed the problems they wanted to fix one at a time. The broad goal of making health care available to everyone at lower cost didn't work. The opposite happened. Government often gets results that are the opposite of the intended ones. they never seem to consider the consequences of what they do - only the politics.
 
fmw said:
I would agree if Medicare weren't already a financial mess. What they should have done is addressed the problems they wanted to fix one at a time. The broad goal of making health care available to everyone at lower cost didn't work. The opposite happened. Government often gets results that are the opposite of the intended ones. they never seem to consider the consequences of what they do - only the politics.
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Medicare is one of the most loved programs in our country, I'm not sure how you're claiming it's a financial mess. We only put 2.45% of our gross income toward medicare, compared to the percent (8% or greater depending on policy and family size) that was being spent on insurance, one could easily fix Medicare financially by simply up'ing the Medicare deduction to 5%-8% and still cost less than insurance (pre-ACA) most people were paying for.
 
code1211 said:
So you are saying that no implementation date was changed? No change in the individual or company mandate?
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All were the result of determinations that ACA authorized. Obama didn't change ACA; it already allowed for various agencies in the executive branch to make specific determinations
 
sangha said:
All were the result of determinations that ACA authorized. Obama didn't change ACA; it already allowed for various agencies in the executive branch to make specific determinations
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That is probably the fig leaf, but the reality is that the political fall out is intended to occur after each succeeding election.
 
sangha said:
It's not a fig leaf; It's the law.
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We can agree to disagree on that.

What is obvious is that this is abad law using any means to measure it.
 
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