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So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533]

Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

How exactly are you going to "lift" them out?

Telling them "Get a job or starve" isn't lifting.

Something liberals have never figured out, nor to be honest never care to do. And that is create jobs. And to do that you create a business friendly environment. Let me give you a couple of examples, build Keystone, not kill it. kill the EPA not let it kill industries, open up federal lands to exploration not lock them up, close the border not let illegals in to take good American jobs, lower corporate taxes not tax them out of the country, kill job killing regulations not regulate to kill businesses. These are just a few examples and this is just jobs to get people out from under government dependency.

Education, here is one example, union public schools have destroyed our education system, I want a voucher system so a student can pick a school of their choice and you can bet it will be a "charter school". But you are against having a student get a better education.

You see you liberals are always on the wrong side of allowing the people to be prosperous, instead you want them dependent as you think you know better. You focus on hand outs and entitlements instead of getting them working. You destroyed their education by having a union system that a teacher can not be fired vs charter schools that have out performed in every category.

The VA is another example of a government union run organization where you can't fire anyone. All liberals want to do is throw money at the problem rather than change the culture of a union controlled organization. Liberals, screw the vets in exchange for keeping the unions happy to get their vote.

I could go on with our differences but you get the idea.

Conservatives are not against helping those in need, there are the elderly, the sick, the injured, etc and there are those that can't get a good education and can't find work, but want a good education and a job, and that liberals don't want to help them with.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?

You are a partisan polemicist and nothing more.

What the hell are you talking about?

Michigan's automobile industry is a shadow of it's former self.

As is the economy of DETROIT...in fact Detroit has no economy.

Chicago continues to shoulder much of the nations prohibition externalities as it did more than 90 years ago.

Really? Is Al Capone still running things in Chicago? I had no idea.

California... is simply the 8th largest economy in the world....

Hence making it the 8th largest FAIL in the world.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

Something liberals have never figured out, nor to be honest never care to do. And that is create jobs. And to do that you create a business friendly environment. Let me give you a couple of examples, build Keystone, not kill it. kill the EPA not let it kill industries, open up federal lands to exploration not lock them up, close the border not let illegals in to take good American jobs, lower corporate taxes not tax them out of the country, kill job killing regulations not regulate to kill businesses. These are just a few examples and this is just jobs to get people out from under government dependency.

Education, here is one example, union public schools have destroyed our education system, I want a voucher system so a student can pick a school of their choice and you can bet it will be a "charter school". But you are against having a student get a better education.

You see you liberals are always on the wrong side of allowing the people to be prosperous, instead you want them dependent as you think you know better. You focus on hand outs and entitlements instead of getting them working. You destroyed their education by having a union system that a teacher can not be fired vs charter schools that have out performed in every category.

The VA is another example of a government union run organization where you can't fire anyone. All liberals want to do is throw money at the problem rather than change the culture of a union controlled organization. Liberals, screw the vets in exchange for keeping the unions happy to get their vote.

I could go on with our differences but you get the idea.

Conservatives are not against helping those in need, there are the elderly, the sick, the injured, etc and there are those that can't get a good education and can't find work, but want a good education and a job, and that liberals don't want to help them with.

If liberals are always wrong, why didn't the conservatives fix everything when they had the power to do so?

Keystone isn't going through the cities.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

How so? Because they don't believe that a country can be run where more than half the people don't pay taxes but yet entitlements are growing? We've seen the results of this line of thought in Europe. How can one not see the growing debt, and not rationally think, "You know, we may need to make a few cutbacks here."

When the entirety of budget reductions are to be shouldered by the middle and lower classes, then it's easy to see why the GOP is viewed as being hostile to the poor and middle class.

Also, the "more than half don't pay taxes" line is worn out and did I mention not fully true.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

When the entirety of budget reductions are to be shouldered by the middle and lower classes, then it's easy to see why the GOP is viewed as being hostile to the poor and middle class.

Also, the "more than half don't pay taxes" line is worn out and did I mention not fully true.

To be quite honest, I've given up paying attention to what budget recommendations are made from year to year (since none of them passed). So unfortunately we really can't have that debate at this moment in time. Though I will say that Europe is having to do just that now to get their financial house in order. At some point we will have to take a look at those things as well.... probably some other things as well.)

And let me clarify my early statement to be as specific, and therefore as accurate as possible:

"Fifty-one percent -- that is, a majority of American households -- paid no income tax in 2009. Zero. Zip. Nada."

Today the percent may of moved a couple of percentage one way or the other, but the fact remains there's a lot of Americans not paying federal income taxes.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

If liberals are always wrong, why didn't the conservatives fix everything when they had the power to do so?

Keystone isn't going through the cities.

Just like I said, kill Keystone and **** the jobs.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

When the entirety of budget reductions are to be shouldered by the middle and lower classes, then it's easy to see why the GOP is viewed as being hostile to the poor and middle class.

Also, the "more than half don't pay taxes" line is worn out and did I mention not fully true.

You did mention it and it is true that half of Americans pay NO Federal income tax. However more would pay federal income taxes if they had jobs and better pay. But under Obama the working class makes less under Obama than under Bush. Budget reductions are shouldered by the middle and lower classes, so create a business friendly environment and get people working and making higher wages. Who the hell funds the budget anyway. Yes the rich, and when did Obama do any cutting, he has dumped over 8 trillion of borrowed money over 6 years into our economy and we have the worst recover in US history.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

You did mention it and it is true that half of Americans pay NO Federal income tax. However more would pay federal income taxes if they had jobs and better pay. But under Obama the working class makes less under Obama than under Bush. Budget reductions are shouldered by the middle and lower classes, so create a business friendly environment and get people working and making higher wages. Who the hell funds the budget anyway. Yes the rich, and when did Obama do any cutting, he has dumped over 8 trillion of borrowed money over 6 years into our economy and we have the worst recover in US history.

I have a question. Does that assertion that half of Americans pay no Federal Income Tax include retirees? You know, people who have paid Federal Income Tax most of their lives and now live off SS alone or with some retirement? Just curious.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533


Thank you. So we are down to 43% of all households that don't pay FIT. Of that a little over 1% are actually high earners. While the elderly make up close to 10%. In addition the projection is that the rate will be down to 34% BY 2024. Quite a difference from the Conservative talking points that half the US are "moochers".

Why does it matter that there was credit down grade under Obama? Rates have gone down, gov. debt is way over subscribed and the rating agency's opinion isn't worth the paper its written on. We don't even consider the rating agency's grades when purchasing investments at our credit union. We do our own analysis and are very conservative. You give the rating agency's enough money they will rate used toilet paper triple A.
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

To be quite honest, I've given up paying attention to what budget recommendations are made from year to year (since none of them passed). So unfortunately we really can't have that debate at this moment in time. Though I will say that Europe is having to do just that now to get their financial house in order. At some point we will have to take a look at those things as well.... probably some other things as well.)

And let me clarify my early statement to be as specific, and therefore as accurate as possible:

"Fifty-one percent -- that is, a majority of American households -- paid no income tax in 2009. Zero. Zip. Nada."

Today the percent may of moved a couple of percentage one way or the other, but the fact remains there's a lot of Americans not paying federal income taxes.

Which is a far cry from paying "no taxes."
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?[W:533

If you want an example of raising the minimum wage hurting an economy, just like at the island of San Juan (It may of been another territory though, I can look up if needed). They historically had low minimum wage and a few years back they decided to correct the problem (I think it was like 2 or 3 dollars, incredibly low, but remember they're a territory so they don't follow the same laws). In any case, year by year, they've been raising the minimum wage to 50 cents until I believe it was last year they had to call a stop to it because it was hurting the local economy. You see, the business weren't making enough money to be able to pay the higher wages, and were being forced to cut more and more workers. It got to the point that business were being forced to close because they couldn't afford to pay anyone to work. That's why, I believe it was last year, Obama signed an executive order halting the yearly increases.

I'd like to know what island you are referring to. There is no island of San Juan. There is a city called San Juan in Puerto Rico, but the minimum wage in Puerto Rico is pegged to the minimum wage of the US. So, I'm not sure what you are referring to. References?
 
Re: So why is it that the GOP has so few minorities, and the Dems have so many?

Not really, no. Many women seem obsessed with abortion and their desire to force other people to provide them birth control coverage,

Women are obsessed with abortion and thus seek birth control? None of that makes any sense.

blacks seem to not be able to get over what happened decades ago and still support unjust laws that violate the rights of people or otherwise known as anti-discrimination laws, Hispanics and blacks have a bad tendency to turn their communities into potholes, and while Asians are highly educated are just as corrupted by statism as all the rest of them.

Who's "them"?
 
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