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You are doing it again conservatives.

Of what? I know your side will spew something stupid and blow it. We can always count on Louie Gohmert, Steve King or Michele Bachmann to act braindead. Then there are those birthers and Neo confederates.

I'm kinda hoping rick perry and mittens romoney run in 2016 again, I sort of enjoyed the circle jerk.
 
I don't disagree as far as special interest goes but the liberals tried to fix that and the SCOTUS had a brain fart and said that was free speech. The vote was 5 to 4 and the conservatives where the 5.

Do you really consider Justice Kennedy a conservative...
 
Dude, giving out free stuff ALWAYS wins, except for those who are paying for the stuff. When we reach the point where their are more people getting the free stuff than those paying for it liberalism rules.

Aren't we already dancing on the line?
 
Liberalism always wins in the end. That is a fact. You can jump ship and call yourself a independent all you want but as long as conservatives continue to hate on the poor while trying to act like working class hero's the left is going to win.

"liberalism always win in in the end" is an opinion, not a fact.

ya better be nicer to conservatives, they are the only one keeping liberalism alive..... so-called liberals have moved on to the allegedly greener pastures of progressivism and socialism.
 
I'm good, but you need to realize that producers are required before anyone else can be taken care of...

I don't disagree Paul. More jobs would be nice and even better if they paid well and gave people 40 hours. As a liberal I have nothing against hard work. I am against workers getting screwed by a hard one so the rich can get richer. That's all.
 
"liberalism always win in in the end" is an opinion, not a fact.

ya better be nicer to conservatives, they are the only one keeping liberalism alive..... so-called liberals have moved on to the allegedly greener pastures of progressivism and socialism.

They are the same thing. Remember the best rock is progressive rock. Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull or Dream Theater.
 
I don't disagree Paul. More jobs would be nice and even better if they paid well and gave people 40 hours. As a liberal I have nothing against hard work. I am against workers getting screwed by a hard one so the rich can get richer. That's all.

Workers are getting screwed by their government, but I'm not seeing your outrage over that...
 
They are the same thing. Remember the best rock is progressive rock. Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull or Dream Theater.

nope, they are not the same thing.... do your homework.

Tull is good, KC and DT suck.....and trying to put music into political labels is full of stupid.
 
Workers are getting screwed by their government, but I'm not seeing your outrage over that...

Screwed in what way? The GOP trying to block unemployment benefits? Fighting against raising the minimum wage that 70% of Americans are for. I have been outraged by those things AP.
 
They are the same thing. Remember the best rock is progressive rock. Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull or Dream Theater.

Nahh. The best rock, is old school ie AC/DC, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, et al. ;)
 
Liberalism always wins in the end. That is a fact. You can jump ship and call yourself a independent all you want but as long as conservatives continue to hate on the poor while trying to act like working class hero's the left is going to win.
I am the poor. Literally, I am below the poverty line. And I am conservative, but I am not GOP. So save your class warfare for someone who believes in such fairytail nonsense. You clearly have no grasp on reality.
 
"liberalism always win in in the end" is an opinion, not a fact.

ya better be nicer to conservatives, they are the only one keeping liberalism alive..... so-called liberals have moved on to the allegedly greener pastures of progressivism and socialism.

Social security won in the end. The ACA has won. The VA won. Want some more examples?
 
Screwed in what way? The GOP trying to block unemployment benefits? Fighting against raising the minimum wage that 70% of Americans are for. I have been outraged by those things AP.

Remind me of what entry level wages are in ND where there is actual competition for labor and the State government is encouraging economic growth...
 
I'm good, but you need to realize that producers are required before anyone else can be taken care of...

Good point! :thumbs: Perhaps someone can explain why so many companies have left the US to do business in other countries. Watching LEVI, an American icon, leave was just about the last straw for me! And GM building their newest plant in Mexico, while at the same time other car companies are relocating here? WTH? :thumbdown:

Greetings, AP. :2wave: Good to see you!
 
So Obama is not that popular. Most second term presidents are loathed the second term. The right wing base is outraged by what has happened with gay marriage, The ACA, Benghazi, The IRS scandal, The VA scandal and the liberal nature of younger voters on social issues. So with this tsunami of goodness pointing to a right wing gain this fall what does the GOP do? Doubles down on the very things that got them defeated in the past. They has basically given up on the female, Hispanic and young voting blocks with their stance on abortion, immigration and gay marriage. All I have to sat is good luck with that. Oh and good luck with that anti poor people BS your side is spewing and have been spewing over the last six years. That crap is another thing that makes the GOP look like goons. Good luck.

Shallow trolling won't save the Dems in 2014. In his final two years in office BHO will face both House and Senate controlled by the opposition.:peace
 
some Prog Rock bands were pretty damned good ( Pink Floyd , Tull, Genesis)... some sucked ass.

True, very true, I happen to enjoy a couple like some of Pink Floyds stuff. But as a genre Old School overall is better I don't find myself picking and choosing as much.
 
Shallow trolling won't save the Dems in 2014. In his final two years in office BHO will face both House and Senate controlled by the opposition.:peace

An old man once told me, "We shall see.", and so we shall. I wouldn't be counting any chickens until the hatchins all done. You never know until you know.
 
Good point! :thumbs: Perhaps someone can explain why so many companies have left the US to do business in other countries. Watching LEVI, an American icon, leave was just about the last straw for me! And GM building their newest plant in Mexico, while at the same time other car companies are relocating here? WTH? :thumbdown:

Greetings, AP. :2wave: Good to see you!

Good day pg. I hope you're well!! What many do not realize is that government has played a large role in our jobs moving to other countries. In its attempt to save us from ourselves, it has created a condition where many of our citizens have become content to live with what the government is willing to provide...
 
Good point! :thumbs: Perhaps someone can explain why so many companies have left the US to do business in other countries. Watching LEVI, an American icon, leave was just about the last straw for me! And GM building their newest plant in Mexico, while at the same time other car companies are relocating here? WTH? :thumbdown:

Greetings, AP. :2wave: Good to see you!

most move because the overall business environment is better elsewhere.... lower labor costs, lower compliance costs, less regulatory schemes, etc

i've toyed with the idea of moving my HQ to Colombia ( I already have a branch there)... i'm still toying with it.
i'd have the same revenue with roughly a 40% decrease in costs.
it seems to me that our govt doesn't really want business to remain in the US... if they did, it would be very easy to keep 'em here.
 
An old man once told me, "We shall see.", and so we shall. I wouldn't be counting any chickens until the hatchins all done. You never know until you know.

Let those Obamacare rate hikes roll in about October and then get back to me.
 
Let those Obamacare rate hikes roll in about October and then get back to me.

Don't count on them moving anybody to vote differently is all I am saying. There are way too many stupid people that vote, and unfortunately they are quite influential with their votes. It would be nice if Dems were kicked but the Republicans are just as slimy and people don't like them either.
 
Don't count on them moving anybody to vote differently is all I am saying. There are way too many stupid people that vote, and unfortunately they are quite influential with their votes. It would be nice if Dems were kicked but the Republicans are just as slimy and people don't like them either.

Fair enough.
 
most move because the overall business environment is better elsewhere.... lower labor costs, lower compliance costs, less regulatory schemes, etc

i've toyed with the idea of moving my HQ to Colombia ( I already have a branch there)... i'm still toying with it.
i'd have the same revenue with roughly a 40% decrease in costs.
it seems to me that our govt doesn't really want business to remain in the US... if they did, it would be very easy to keep 'em here.

:agree: We were a happy, prosperous people when the jobs were here, because there was something for everybody back then. Now, college graduates are being hired to do the jobs that high schoolers and other people with no skills used to do, which is causing the middle class to shrink more and more. Couple that with automation. and we have 50 million people on food stamps and other government assistance, with the attendant lack of hope for a better future. How that's supposed to be good for people has never been coherently explained to anyone's satisfaction, but this current environment is not a friendly one for business, that's for sure. It appears that those that remain are doing it in spite of government interference! :thumbdown:

Greetings, Thrilla. :2wave:
 
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