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Is Obama a jinx upon America?

It's partisan nonsense plain and simple. If Obama simply had a different letter beside his name, 95% of these conservatives that hate his very existence would be falling all over him.

And likewise for his jackass predecessor.

I'm the first to admit that I dislike the GOP more than the Democrats, but that's largely for their idiotic social conservatism. On the military and the economy, there ain't much difference between the two.
 
Oh Boy. If you want to be taken seriously, drop the partisan vomit.

Which partisan vomit would that be? I am not a fan of establishment politicians in either party. I am into philosophy

, not party. Bloomberg is a progressive twit. Take it or leave it.
 
That's just factually incorrect. There is literally no difference between George W. Bush and Barack Obama. None. They have pushed literally an identical agenda. The only reason you view Obama as worse is the "D" next to his name.

So sorry...but you do not get to speak for me. I don't care about the "D" beside Obama's name. I do care that he is a dishonest socialist incompetent twit who is tearing this nation apart. And no Obama and Bush did not push an identical agenda. Bush would have never shoved obamacare down our throats.
 
Like what impresses you or doesn't impress you is relevant to anything.

Evidently it was relevant enough to you that you bothered responding. Have a nice evening.
 
I am often accused here on DP of being one of Obama's staunchest defenders. Of course, I have routinely criticized the guy for any number of things, but I will not hesitate to "defend him" from the kind of hyperpartisan claptrap that Ray just posted. It's garbage.

There's plenty of legit criticisms of Obama, but the usual suspects don't attack him for those because their sainted GOP's hands are just as dirty as any Democrats regarding the surveillance state, the drone program, overseas entanglements. So they resort to this "he hates America!!!1" horse****. Or whine about how he plays golf too much or mispronounced "corpsman."

Shoving an unpopular Ponzi scheme piece of legislation like obamacare down our throats despite overwhelming opposition from the majority of American citizens certainly does not suggest that Obama likes this country>
 
It's partisan nonsense plain and simple. If Obama simply had a different letter beside his name, 95% of these conservatives that hate his very existence would be falling all over him.

There are hardcore partisans on both sides. I am not one of them. I don't hate any politician....not even Obama. He is just at the top of the idiot list. I don't care for the likes of John Boehner or John McCain either. Oops....they have an "R" beside their names. Wow!;)
 
So sorry...but you do not get to speak for me. I don't care about the "D" beside Obama's name. I do care that he is a dishonest socialist incompetent twit who is tearing this nation apart. And no Obama and Bush did not push an identical agenda. Bush would have never shoved obamacare down our throats.

The idea that Obama is a socialist is absurd.
 
He's a self inflicted failure the American people stupidly decided would be fun to endure. I'm sure our great grand kids will appreciate paying the bills this man and his policies are racking up.
Considering that on every measurable metric, the country is better now than when he was elected, there is no factual basis for your assertion.
 
Considering that on every measurable metric, the country is better now than when he was elected, there is no factual basis for your assertion.
MTAtech, are you trying to be ironically funny or do you REALLY believe that line of bull**** you're pushing?
 
MTAtech, are you trying to be ironically funny or do you REALLY believe that line of bull**** you're pushing?
Unemployment is down; GDP is up; stocks are up; housing is on the rebound; Per capita Real disposable personal income is up.

The problem is conservatives living in their own universe, where what they believe is mistaken for reality. In that make believe universe, everything is worse under and due to, Obama.
 
Unemployment is down; GDP is up; stocks are up; housing is on the rebound; Per capita Real disposable personal income is up.

The problem is conservatives living in their own universe, where what they believe is mistaken for reality. In that make believe universe, everything is worse under and due to, Obama.

Unemployment is down? Negatory. REAL unemployment, do you know what that number is? I'm not talking about the massaged numbers, I'm talking the REAL unemployment. How about food stamp usage... do you know that number?

GDP??

[h=1]U.S. GDP Grew A Glacial 0.1% In The First Quarter 2014[/h]

The Bureau of Economic Analysis’ advance estimate of first quarter 2014 real gross domestic product shows output produced in the U.S. grew at a glacial 0.1% rate. This is growth relative to fourth quarter 2013, when real GDP increased 2.6%. Economists were anticipating growth around 1.1%.http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2014/04/30/u-s-gdp-grew-a-glacial-0-1-in-the-first-quarter-2014/
 
Unemployment is down? Negatory. REAL unemployment, do you know what that number is? I'm not talking about the massaged numbers, I'm talking the REAL unemployment. How about food stamp usage... do you know that number?

GDP??
Considering that when Obama was elected he inherited an economy that was shedding 800,000 jobs a month and GDP was falling, the GDP numbers aren't bad. I also notice that you focus on one quarter of GDP -- which happens to be only a minor gain and not the trend, which the Conference Board forecasts at a real GDP growth of 2.3% for 2014.

It also is noticeable that you are a typical conservative that rejects official numbers you don't like as "massaged" and "skewed." It reminds me of conservatives that reject the polling data that showed that Romney was going to be defeated.

The fact is that unemployment is falling. Yes, more people are on SNAP but there are also more people in the population. But I find it ironic that conservatives don't want to raise the minimum wage but then complain that people apply for SNAP and Medicaid. In any case, neither SNAP or Medicaid usage are economic indicators.

As far as "real" unemployment goes, it depends on what you are trying to measure. There is no "real" unemployment rate, just various indicators of the state of the labor market. Fortunately, these indicators pretty much move in tandem, so we’re not usually confused about whether the market is getting better or worse. But they do measure somewhat different things, and which one you want to look at depends on what questions you’re asking.

After all, what do we mean when we say someone is unemployed? We don’t just mean “not working”, because that applies to retirees, the disabled, playboys on yachts, etc. We mean someone who wants to work but can’t find that work. But there’s some unavoidable fuzziness about both what it means to want to work and what it means to be unable to find work.

Suppose that I were to retire but could still be tempted to come out of retirement if offered a million-dollar fee. Do I want to work or not? So, the question of whether I really want work is genuinely ambiguous.

What about being able to find work? Suppose you have an expensively acquired degree, and the only jobs out there are part-time gigs at minimum wage. You might not take those jobs; in that case, is it really true that you can’t find work? Alternatively, you might indeed take such a job; is it really right in that case to say that you did find work?

That's why economists have developed practical measures that give us a good read on what is happening, even if they don’t correspond to your idea of unemployment -- you know, the measure that always makes Obama look bad.
 
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Congress cannot do that much damage without Barack Hussein Obama's signature.

It wasn't that long ago that congress proved it could shut down the government and destroy the economy without a presidential signature.
 
It wasn't that long ago that congress proved it could shut down the government and destroy the economy without a presidential signature.

BS. The government was not shut down. There were only some government services temporarily shut down. And Obama was complicit.
 
BS. The government was not shut down. There were only some government services temporarily shut down. And Obama was complicit.

I said it "could"....I didn't say it "did".
 
I said it "could"....I didn't say it "did".

The only way it can be shut all the way down is if the entitlement state continues to spend us into oblivion.....and we can no longer print money and borrow from the bank of china to cover it.
 
The only way it can be shut all the way down is if the entitlement state continues to spend us into oblivion.....and we can no longer print money and borrow from the bank of china to cover it.
Whooooosh.

The tea party is the real jinx...everything they touch turns to hate.
 
Whooooosh.

The tea party is the real jinx...everything they touch turns to hate.

God Bless the Tea Party. They have my full support.
 
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