What is the Reason for Benghazi that Obama Doesnt want the Truth to be Revealed.....

Okay.....as the title Asks. What do you think is the Main reason or reasons that Obama and his Team do not want the truth to come out over Benghazi and the Attack with US Consulate/Annex? As well as what took place with the Attack and Death of a US Ambassador and other Americans Which would include those who were wounded and have not testified.

1. Do you think it is over Incompetence, Mismanagement, and not knowing what was going on inside Benghazi?

2. Do you think it is over the Politicization of an Election in order to get Obama Elected?

3. Do you think it was over the Anniversary of 911?

4. Do you think it was over revenge due to what was done to Gadhafi.

5. Do you think it was over an Arms deal that had to be kept secret due to Obama telling The UN and the World that the US would Not Arm the Syrian Rebels with Weapons. Which at first.....he stated no specificity as to what type of weapons light heavy or any other description. Other than No weapons and due to not knowing all those involved with the Syrian Rebels?


Or do you think it is due to some other reason and if so. Explain.....and yes some of these reasons there could be more than just one reason. Please define a reason/s or one of your own. What say ye?

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MMC said:

Okay.....as the title Asks. What do you think is the Main reason or reasons that Obama and his Team do not want the truth to come out over Benghazi and the Attack with US Consulate/Annex? As well as what took place with the Attack and Death of a US Ambassador and other Americans Which would include those who were wounded and have not testified.

1. Do you think it is over Incompetence, Mismanagement, and not knowing what was going on inside Benghazi?

2. Do you think it is over the Politicization of an Election in order to get Obama Elected?

3. Do you think it was over the Anniversary of 911?

4. Do you think it was over revenge due to what was done to Gadhafi.

5. Do you think it was over an Arms deal that had to be kept secret due to Obama telling The UN and the World that the US would Not Arm the Syrian Rebels with Weapons. Which at first.....he stated no specificity as to what type of weapons light heavy or any other description. Other than No weapons and due to not knowing all those involved with the Syrian Rebels?


Or do you think it is due to some other reason and if so. Explain.....and yes some of these reasons there could be more than just one reason. Please define a reason/s or one of your own. What say ye?

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None of the above. The whole thing is about sore losers who can't come to grips with the fact that Obama won re-election fair and square mostly because their candidate was a total a-hole.

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I'll take 1, 2 and 5 as reasons for concern.

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MMC said:

Okay.....as the title Asks. What do you think is the Main reason or reasons that Obama and his Team do not want the truth to come out over Benghazi and the Attack with US Consulate/Annex? As well as what took place with the Attack and Death of a US Ambassador and other Americans Which would include those who were wounded and have not testified.

1. Do you think it is over Incompetence, Mismanagement, and not knowing what was going on inside Benghazi?

2. Do you think it is over the Politicization of an Election in order to get Obama Elected?

3. Do you think it was over the Anniversary of 911?

4. Do you think it was over revenge due to what was done to Gadhafi.

5. Do you think it was over an Arms deal that had to be kept secret due to Obama telling The UN and the World that the US would Not Arm the Syrian Rebels with Weapons. Which at first.....he stated no specificity as to what type of weapons light heavy or any other description. Other than No weapons and due to not knowing all those involved with the Syrian Rebels?


Or do you think it is due to some other reason and if so. Explain.....and yes some of these reasons there could be more than just one reason. Please define a reason/s or one of your own. What say ye?

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Politics and governance is filled with spin. The Benghazi spin was because of the election coming up. The spin doctors couldn't bear to have a 9/11 attack happen . . . couldn't bear to admit that the property wasn't protected. The attack had to happen because of the video. At first.

What difference does it make?

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The GOP only cares about Bennowhere. It is about making a twice elected President look bad.

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iguanaman said:

None of the above. The whole thing is about sore losers who can't come to grips with the fact that Obama won re-election fair and square mostly because their candidate was a total a-hole.

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Having the US gov't affirm lies that support your campaign slogans is not exactly "fair and square".

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MMC said:

Okay.....as the title Asks. What do you think is the Main reason or reasons that Obama and his Team do not want the truth to come out over Benghazi and the Attack with US Consulate/Annex? As well as what took place with the Attack and Death of a US Ambassador and other Americans Which would include those who were wounded and have not testified.

1. Do you think it is over Incompetence, Mismanagement, and not knowing what was going on inside Benghazi?

2. Do you think it is over the Politicization of an Election in order to get Obama Elected?

3. Do you think it was over the Anniversary of 911?

4. Do you think it was over revenge due to what was done to Gadhafi.

5. Do you think it was over an Arms deal that had to be kept secret due to Obama telling The UN and the World that the US would Not Arm the Syrian Rebels with Weapons. Which at first.....he stated no specificity as to what type of weapons light heavy or any other description. Other than No weapons and due to not knowing all those involved with the Syrian Rebels?


Or do you think it is due to some other reason and if so. Explain.....and yes some of these reasons there could be more than just one reason. Please define a reason/s or one of your own. What say ye?

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its too bad snowden doesn't have the info on benghazi to release. hahaha....

it's one, two and five.

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iguanaman said:

None of the above. The whole thing is about sore losers who can't come to grips with the fact that Obama won re-election fair and square mostly because their candidate was a total a-hole.

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So that's why democrats still want answers on Benghazi?

Sixty-six percent of voters want Congress to keep investigating the White House’s handling of Benghazi. That includes 50 percent of Democrats, 68 percent of independents and 83 percent of Republicans.

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Fox News Poll: 66 percent say Congress should continue to investigate Benghazi | Fox News

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ttwtt78640 said:

Having the US gov't affirm lies that support your campaign slogans is not exactly "fair and square".

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Thanks for proving my point. It's time to move on to losing the next election.

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iguanaman said:

None of the above. The whole thing is about sore losers who can't come to grips with the fact that Obama won re-election fair and square mostly because their candidate was a total a-hole.

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Yet, Obama orders an Investigation and it is not concluded and there has been no report from that investigation as to what is currently taking place to bring those to Justice that attacked and killed a US Ambassador and Plotted an attack on US Interests. The same Words spoken By Obama that he will see Brought to Justice.

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MaggieD said:

Politics and governance is filled with spin. The Benghazi spin was because of the election coming up. The spin doctors couldn't bear to have a 9/11 attack happen . . . couldn't bear to admit that the property wasn't protected. The attack had to happen because of the video. At first.

What difference does it make?

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Mornin' Maggie. Post 10.....and to those who were wounded and had to go thru it all as well as to the relatives of the fallen.

Pretty good differences.....huh?

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MMC said:

Mornin' Maggie.

Post 10.....and to those who were wounded and had to go thru it all as well as to the relatives of the fallen.

Pretty good differences.....huh?

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I forgot the quotes around our presumed Democratic presidential candidate's words.

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MMC said:

Yet, Obama orders an Investigation and it is not concluded and there has been no report from that investigation as to what is currently taking place to bring those to Justice that attacked and killed a US Ambassador and Plotted an attack on US Interests. The same Words spoken By Obama that he will see Brought to Justice.

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voyager1 said:

The GOP only cares about Bennowhere. It is about making a twice elected President look bad.

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That's not what Boehner says......and now you know that Repubs have no control over any charges coming out of Select Committee. As the same applies to the Demos. They know they too......can't stop any charges coming out of such a committee.



House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) is announcing today that he intends for the House to vote to create a new select committee to investigate the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya that killed four Americans. He released the following statement:

“Americans learned this week that the Obama Administration is so intent on obstructing the truth about Benghazi that it is even willing to defy subpoenas issued by the standing committees of the People's House. These revelations compel the House to take every possible action to ensure the American people have the truth about the terrorist attack on our consulate that killed four of our countrymen. In light of these new developments, the House will vote to establish a new select committee to investigate the attack, provide the necessary accountability, and ensure justice is finally served.

“The administration's withholding of documents – emails showing greater White House involvement in misleading the American people – is a flagrant violation of trust and undermines the basic principles of oversight upon which our system of government is built. And it forces us to ask the question, what else about Benghazi is the Obama administration still hiding from the American people?


- See more at: Boehner to Establish Select Committee on Benghazi | Speaker.gov

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...n/192770-select-committee.html#post1063227965

Now there you have why the GOP is doing such.....even though they have no control over any charges coming out of it. So much for having no reason.

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iguanaman said:

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And.....has absolutely nothing.....that's nothing to do with this case here. Trying to present the idea of two wrongs. Just doesn't make it Right.


Difference is the Special Investigation with the FBI.....due to a US Ambassadors death and a Specific order to be sent there by Obama. As None were there before the fall of Gadhafi.

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Btw.....please feel free to provide any material you may think is relevant to the reason and or reasons.

Are there other charges in the USMJ that can be brought to bear on any? From State? Over CIA?

What reason would be the Most damaging to Obama and the US?

Other keys issues that were notable were the assassination attempts on the Brits Ambassador and the Italians. Was there a connection?

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MMC said:

Okay.....as the title Asks. What do you think is the Main reason or reasons that Obama and his Team do not want the truth to come out over Benghazi and the Attack with US Consulate/Annex? As well as what took place with the Attack and Death of a US Ambassador and other Americans Which would include those who were wounded and have not testified.

1. Do you think it is over Incompetence, Mismanagement, and not knowing what was going on inside Benghazi?

2. Do you think it is over the Politicization of an Election in order to get Obama Elected?

3. Do you think it was over the Anniversary of 911?

4. Do you think it was over revenge due to what was done to Gadhafi.

5. Do you think it was over an Arms deal that had to be kept secret due to Obama telling The UN and the World that the US would Not Arm the Syrian Rebels with Weapons. Which at first.....he stated no specificity as to what type of weapons light heavy or any other description. Other than No weapons and due to not knowing all those involved with the Syrian Rebels?


Or do you think it is due to some other reason and if so. Explain.....and yes some of these reasons there could be more than just one reason. Please define a reason/s or one of your own. What say ye?

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I pick #1.

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Dittohead not! said:

I pick #1.

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Mornin' DH. :2wave: Do you think that is the only reason.....and why do you think it would be that one? IS there anything material you can support that reason with?

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ttwtt78640 said:

I'll take 1, 2 and 5 as reasons for concern.

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Mornin Ttwtt. :2wave: Just a concern? Do you think these reasons would give a certainty as to the behavior of BO and his team? In that what has gone down.....that they had to react in the way they did?

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MMC said:

Mornin' DH. :2wave: Do you think that is the only reason.....and why do you think it would be that one? IS there anything material you can support that reason with?

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Not really, just speculation and the observation over the years that incompetence is rampant in the government.

Not admitting what really happened was no doubt about keeping the lid on the scandal until after the election, but that was after the fact.

From the point of view of the Islamic nutters who are out to get as many infidels as possible, it was not doubt motivated in part by the anniversary of 9/11.

The known facts are that the embassy asked for additional security and were ignored. The attack was totally predictable, and yet the administration was caught with its pants down. That seems to me to be incompetence rather than some nefarious plot. There was nothing to gain politically from allowing such an attack to take place.

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Dittohead not! said:

Not really, just speculation and the observation over the years that incompetence is rampant in the government.

Not admitting what really happened was no doubt about keeping the lid on the scandal until after the election, but that was after the fact.

From the point of view of the Islamic nutters who are out to get as many infidels as possible, it was not doubt motivated in part by the anniversary of 9/11.

The known facts are that the embassy asked for additional security and were ignored. The attack was totally predictable, and yet the administration was caught with its pants down. That seems to me to be incompetence rather than some nefarious plot. There was nothing to gain politically from allowing such an attack to take place.

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Thanks for explaining that out DH. Any thought about the Arms deal and the material that came up with that?

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MMC said:

Thanks for explaining that out DH.

Any thought about the Arms deal and the material that came up with that?

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I'm not sure about that. What evidence is there that the attack at Bengazi and/or the US response to same was related to arming the Syrians?

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Dittohead not! said:

I'm not sure about that. What evidence is there that the attack at Bengazi and/or the US response to same was related to arming the Syrians?

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Well, on Sept 12th the Libyan FM reported to the BBC and the Brits they knew it was Ansar al Sharia. Who had made it known they were out to attack US interests. Which was AQ redefined in Africa. The President of the Libya reported to NPR that they knew who it was. That fighters had come in from Algeria and other places.

So that was known......now as to getting caught up with the timing of Stevens being sent there to Benghazi that weekend of the Anniversary. I think that just got caught up due With what was being threatened by Ansar al Sharia. Then by Obama taking to the camera over Syria. But still someone sent that play into motion.....as we now know that the Libyans warned us 3 days in advance what the security situation was like in Benghazi. They even told our people it was to dangerous to conduct international business.

Now what would they be saying?

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Dittohead not! said:

Not really, just speculation and the observation over the years that incompetence is rampant in the government.

Not admitting what really happened was no doubt about keeping the lid on the scandal until after the election, but that was after the fact.

From the point of view of the Islamic nutters who are out to get as many infidels as possible, it was not doubt motivated in part by the anniversary of 9/11.

The known facts are that the embassy asked for additional security and were ignored. The attack was totally predictable, and yet the administration was caught with its pants down. That seems to me to be incompetence rather than some nefarious plot. There was nothing to gain politically from allowing such an attack to take place.

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Ambassador Stevens himself turned down offers of additional security personnel twice. I have no idea what you are saying about the "embassy" being turned down. Stevens was not even in an embassy and it was the CIA that was (and did) provide security. There is so much misinformation about this no wonder there's confusion.

With the release yesterday of the 100 pages of emails discussing the ‘talking points’ that have become the focus of Rep. Darrell Issa’s campaign to expose a White House cover up of the Benghazi affair, there are a few things that have now become starkly clear—

•It was the CIA—not the State Department or the White House—that sought to remove language from the talking points directly discussing any potential involvement of any Al-Qaeda related terrorist groups in the Benghazi attack.
•The White House very clearly did not seek to steer the talking points in the direction of pushing a particular story that would soften potential political problems the attack may have caused with respect to the 2012 presidential election.
•The State Department was very concerned that the CIA was attempting to ‘shift’ the failure for providing adequate security to protect the outpost to the State Department. In response, State was actively resisting any inclusion in the talking points that would suggest such blame

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Do The White House Emails And Other Breaking Revelations Point To Critical CIA Secrets In Benghazi? - Forbes

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iguanaman said:

Ambassador Stevens himself turned down offers of additional security personnel twice. I have no idea what you are saying about the "embassy" being turned down. Stevens was not even in an embassy and it was the CIA that was (and did) provide security. There is so much misinformation about this no wonder there's confusion.


Do The White House Emails And Other Breaking Revelations Point To Critical CIA Secrets In Benghazi? - Forbes

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Nah.....that not it. First as for Stevens.


Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape


In the weeks before his death, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens sent the State Department several requests for increased security for diplomats in Libya.

Steven's memos to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which is investigating attacks, show he personally pressed for strengthened security.

On July 9, 2012, Stevens sent a "request for extension of tour of duty (TDY) personnel." That refers to a 16-man military temporary security team with expertise in counter terrorism. They were set to leave in August, but Stevens asked to keep them "thru mid-September."

On August 2, six weeks before he died, Stevens requested "protective detail bodyguard potions," saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent." It's not known what happened to that request.

On August 8, as the special security teams left Libya, another cable from Stevens says "a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape" and calls them "targeted and discriminate attacks."

Then on September 11 -- the day the Ambassador lost his life -- he sent this Benghazi weekly report. It expressed Libyans' "growing frustration with police and security forces who were too weak to keep the country secure."

Colonel Andrew Wood led the U.S. military team that left Libya in August. He testified before Congress last week.

He told CBS News that Stevens fought losing another security team.....snip~

Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape - CBS News

That takes care of Stevens and the requesting of Security.