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Romney: Same-sex marriages not ideal for raising kids

Redress said:
Another republican who rejects science. Color me shocked...
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RamFel said:
And just how is supporting SSM science?
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When a liberal uses the word “science”, it does not mean the same thing that it means when a sane person uses that same word. It's very much like the word “choice”, in this regard.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
When a liberal uses the word “science”, it does not mean the same thing that it means when a sane person uses that same word. It's very much like the word “choice”, in this regard.
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Apparently you are unaware of the definition of science.
 
pbrauer said:
Romney is getting that itch.... 2016
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Spare me, I didn't trust him in 2008, I didn't trust him in 2012, I doubt if I would trust him in 2016. I will say this, the ideal situation when it comes to raising kids is to have two loving parents who care enough about their children to teach them right from wrong and to be there when needed.
 
Navy Pride said:
Good for Governor Romney.............

Romney: Same-sex marriages not ideal for raising kids - POLITICO.com

By LEIGH MUNSIL | [h=5]2/16/14 11:51 AM EST[/h]
Mitt Romney reaffirmed his support for traditional marriage on Sunday, saying the "ideal setting" to raise children is in a two-parent, opposite-gender household.
"I think marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman," the former Republican presidential nominee said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "And I think the ideal setting for raising a child is in a setting where there's a father and mother. Now there are many other different settings that children are raised in, and people have the right to live their life as they want to. But I think marriage should be defined in the way it's been defined for several thousand years. And if gay couples want to live together, that's fine as well, that's their right."
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"As between one man and at least 3 women."

Sorry, his grandparents didn't practice what he's preaching. I guess his Dad was just raised horribly and turned out to be a terrible person. At least in his eyes.
 
Redress said:
Apparently you are unaware of the definition of science.
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My father was a scientist. So was, I, a couple of careers ago, and I worked with several other scientists.

I know what science is. I also very well know the difference between genuine science, and what those of you on the wrong fraudulently call by that name.
 
Navy Pride said:
Its obvious to someone without a bias opinion..In most cases, not all, a mother and father is the ideal way to raise a child, not 2 fathers......

I love how you lefties are all for SSM even Obama who 5 years ago was totally against it.
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I agree that it's ideal, however reality never fails to disappoint. Yes, a mother and father is wonderful, but 2 mothers beat no parents at all any day of the week.
 
Perotista said:
Spare me, I didn't trust him in 2008, I didn't trust him in 2012, I doubt if I would trust him in 2016. I will say this, the ideal situation when it comes to raising kids is to have two loving parents who care enough about their children to teach them right from wrong and to be there when needed.
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What's his campaign slogan going to be? "Third times the charm" or "It worked out so well the last two times?"
 
Navy Pride said:
You don't think a man and a woman have roles to play in raising a child that 2 gay can't bring?
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No, I don't.

I think that those qualities you refer to are not strictly male or female. I have known men that are much more nurturing then many women I have known. I have seen first hand that balance in roles more successfully achieved with two men then with a male and female. I also think that the roles you refer to are a matter of tradition and do not necessarily represent the ideal.
 
Awww... does little Mitt want to be relevant again? So adorable.

Also what a nonsensical waste of time. The fight over same sex marriage is already over. The only thing that old fossils can do is try to rile up other old fossils (who ironically think that fossils aren't real) and even that won't work for much longer.

The assertion about "ideal setting for children" is complete nonsense from top to bottom. People vary, and we are the result of billions of elements in our lives. The genders of our parents are but one of these elements, and no specific configuration is blanketly better or worse. That two parents instead of more is ideal hasn't been proven by anyone, let alone that a female/male pairing is superior. Just about the only thing that has been proven in this discussion is that two is better than one, but that a damaged and abusive two (or one of two, usually an abusive authoritarian father) is worse than one.
 
Navy Pride said:
I said 2 fathers.........What part of that do you not understand??????????
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Do you think 2 fathers would be worse parents than 2 mothers?
 
Navy Pride said:
Its obvious to someone without a bias opinion..In most cases, not all, a mother and father is the ideal way to raise a child, not 2 fathers......

I love how you lefties are all for SSM even Obama who 5 years ago was totally against it.
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Cool, you still haven't provided any evidence and you just asserting the same thing you did last night.
 
Ikari said:
And how many orphans are there in the world? You got enough heterosexual marriages for that? If not, the State is better than a stable, 2 parent home? Is that your solution? Government can raise the kids and it's better government does it than a homosexual family?

Interesting.
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There are about 200 million orphans in the world. A lot of married couples talk about adopting yet only about 1 in 100 married couples actually adopt. The same sex couples that I know that have adopted have usually been very good parents, and in most cases they adopted special needs. It amazes me when you think of the number of couples that easily spend tens of thousands of dollars on fertility treatments when they could have just have easily adopted, and yet according to many conservatives "same-sex marriages are not ideal for raising kids". I assure you, just about any kid that gets a family will not care if the family they have is a same sex marriage.
 
Navy Pride said:
First of all Redress is female not a he.........The ideal setting for raising children is with a father and mother.....There are gays raising children but that is not the ideal situation for the children.........as Obama would say PERIOD!!!!
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Children don't care whether their parents have a penis or a vagina....nor does it require any certain sexual organ to raise a child. It takes love, patience and commitment....something that has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
 
What does gender matter when parenting?

If you are using your genitalia to parent your children, you are doing it WRONG.
 
Evidently the bigots on the socially conservative right out there believe that there is a waiting list for every orphan out there. Every orphan out there with Cerebral Palsy, Congenital Heart Defects, Hepatitis, Cleft Palates, or many of the other conditions many of the world's orphans suffer from.... social conservatives must think there is this big line of "good traditional families" applying to adopt each and every one of them... Let me let you in on a little secret, most of those traditional families that are having trouble conceiving are out spending tens of thousands of dollars on fertility treatments, in reality they could give a **** less about those orphans.

Frankly people like that are disgusting. Bigotry is disgusting. "Same-sex marriages not ideal for raising kids".... You got to be f***king kidding me. Grow up in a Chinese or third world orphanage where you get little to no education, you get completely inadequate healthcare, you are constantly malnourished, you probably have had intestinal parasites and ear infections your entire life.. Live like that as a child and then tell me that a loving family regardless of whether its a traditional marriage or a same sex marriage is not the most ideal family you could ever imagine. Romney ought to be ashamed of himself for saying something like that anyone out there that agrees with him ought to be ashamed of themselves too.
 
Navy Pride said:
Good for Governor Romney.............

Romney: Same-sex marriages not ideal for raising kids - POLITICO.com

By LEIGH MUNSIL | [h=5]2/16/14 11:51 AM EST[/h]
Mitt Romney reaffirmed his support for traditional marriage on Sunday, saying the "ideal setting" to raise children is in a two-parent, opposite-gender household.
"I think marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman," the former Republican presidential nominee said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "And I think the ideal setting for raising a child is in a setting where there's a father and mother. Now there are many other different settings that children are raised in, and people have the right to live their life as they want to. But I think marriage should be defined in the way it's been defined for several thousand years. And if gay couples want to live together, that's fine as well, that's their right."
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Neither is bringing them up in a cult belief where the man makes all the decisions, the women are property and you believe that if you wear magical underwear, that someday you will go to planet Kolob and be given a planet of your own.
 
reinoe:plutocratic flip-floppers not ideal for winning elections.
 
Kobie said:
I think Barack Obama is painfully mediocre at best, and he's light years better than any Republican. The GOP is a cesspool.
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I think you give Obama too much credit. Light years? Whoo! That's way too much!
 
RamFel said:
I think you give Obama too much credit. Light years? Whoo! That's way too much!
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Nope. That's just how rotten I think the Republicans are.
 
Navy Pride said:
First of all Redress is female not a he.........The ideal setting for raising children is with a father and mother.....There are gays raising children but that is not the ideal situation for the children.........as Obama would say PERIOD!!!!
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Guess what? You don't get to decide who is a parent, so too bad for you. I know two ladies who are raising children, and doing a fantastic job. And one of them used to be a very very powerful person in DC, very powerful, someone that could call the president at 4 am...
 
The "ideal setting" for raising children is two loving, stable, nurturing parents. There's a lot of rotten mothers and fathers out there
 
opendebate said:
No, I don't.

I think that those qualities you refer to are not strictly male or female. I have known men that are much more nurturing then many women I have known. I have seen first hand that balance in roles more successfully achieved with two men then with a male and female. I also think that the roles you refer to are a matter of tradition and do not necessarily represent the ideal.
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The main problem is that a two man, or a two woman household goes against the grain of what is natural. They may occasionally do some things right, or better than an normal man-woman couple but that doesn't mean that kids should be raised by gay couples. Bad parents exist, that's true, but trying to make it sound like gay couples are just as good or better than a straight couple is just silly, and wrong.
 
when it comes to this I think ill stick to the research, studies and findings of the medical science social, physiological and pediatrics communities. :shrug:

im just weird lie that going with facts

2 caring and loving parents are the foundation and on average do no better or worse
 
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