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President George Herbert Walker Bush

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Did anyone watch the special about him on Fox? I thought it was well done revealing the private side of him.......He truly is a great patriotic American...God Bless him.
 
Did anyone watch the special about him on Fox? I thought it was well done revealing the private side of him.......He truly is a great patriotic American...God Bless him.
I was thinking about Mr. Bush earlier in the evening,
Especially when the Military channel plays that clip of him saying that "this is not a war of our choosing".
He has lived a great life with a wonderful wife and family and given much to his Country .
 
I was thinking about Mr. Bush earlier in the evening,
Especially when the Military channel plays that clip of him saying that "this is not a war of our choosing".
He has lived a great life with a wonderful wife and family and given much to his Country .


Its great to hear that from a partisan......Thank you!!!
 
I honor him for his service to the country. I was however never a big fan of him because I sensed that many of his positions were far too calculated and not from his convictions. But that being said, I don't know of many other men who could have pulled of the coalition that he did during the first gulf war (expelling Iraq from Kuwait) while at the same time keeping Israel out of the fight--- even while they were under attack.

Truly a great accomplishment
 
Voted for him twice.
 
President Clinton said a lot of nice things about him.
 
I honor him for his service to the country. I was however never a big fan of him because I sensed that many of his positions were far too calculated and not from his convictions. But that being said, I don't know of many other men who could have pulled of the coalition that he did during the first gulf war (expelling Iraq from Kuwait) while at the same time keeping Israel out of the fight--- even while they were under attack.

Truly a great accomplishment

I don't think there were anyone living that could have came up with a coalition like Bush did.

G.H. Bush was probably one of the highest qualified Presidents ever to enter the White House. He knew most of the world leaders and they respected him. He was able to deal with the world's heads of states. He knew how it worked.
 
I don't think there were anyone living that could have came up with a coalition like Bush did.

G.H. Bush was probably one of the highest qualified Presidents ever to enter the White House. He knew most of the world leaders and they respected him. He was able to deal with the world's heads of states. He knew how it worked.

You mean he wasn't a community organizer?
 
"I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent, my opponent won't rule out raising taxes. But I will. And The Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say, to them, read my lips: no new taxes"
 
"I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent, my opponent won't rule out raising taxes. But I will. And The Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say, to them, read my lips: no new taxes"

>"When Bush took office in 1989, the federal budget debt stood at $2.8 trillion, three times larger than it had been in 1980. This financial situation severely limited the President's ability to enact major domestic programs. The federal government did not have the revenues for any large, new domestic ventures, nor did the political climate lend itself to enacting them. To compensate for these constraints, Bush stressed "a limited agenda," that included volunteerism, education reform, and anti-drug efforts. President Bush did not come into office promising to preside over an era of great change; he won the presidency basically vowing to maintain the status quo and preserve the legacy of his predecessor.

Having pledged during the campaign not to raise taxes, the President found himself in the difficult position of trying to balance the budget and reduce the deficit without imposing additional taxes on the American people. He also faced a Congress controlled by the Democrats. Although Republicans thought that the government should approach the budget deficit by drastically cutting domestic spending, the Democrats wanted to raise taxes on the richest Americans.

Budget negotiations for the 1991 fiscal year proved especially contentious and problematic. Bush had no choice but to compromise with Congress, and his administration entered into lengthy talks with congressional leaders. The President had Chief of Staff John Sununu, Director of the Office of Management and Budget Richard Darman, and Secretary of the Treasury Nicholas Brady lead the discussions. In June 1990, Bush issued a written statement to the press, reneging on his "no taxes" pledge made during the campaign, noting that tax increases might be necessary to solve the deficit problem. In October, after a brief government shutdown that occurred when Bush vetoed the budget Congress delivered to him, the President and Congress reached a compromise with the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990. The budget included measures to reduce the deficit by cutting government expenditures and raising taxes. Many conservative Republicans felt betrayed when Bush agreed to raise taxes, or to include "revenue increases" as he called them in his statement after signing the bill.

On top of the budget crisis, Bush started his presidential tenure as the Savings and Loans industry was collapsing. The federal and state governments had deregulated the industry in the late 1970s and early 1980s, and the S&L industry ventured into riskier investments that destabilized it. In February 1989, with many S&Ls failing, Bush proposed a plan to help bail out the industry. The President reached a compromise with Congress that ended up costing taxpayers more than $100 billion. The collapse of the Savings and Loans and the subsequent government bailout only added to the difficult financial environment that Bush confronted during his presidency."<

American President: George H. W. Bush: Domestic Affairs
 
Did not see the clip but I view him as the greatest President of my 60+ years. The Desert Storm international coalition was amazing. We never saw anything like that before and probably won't again. And his personal qualities seem more impressive.
 
"I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent, my opponent won't rule out raising taxes. But I will. And The Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say, to them, read my lips: no new taxes"

and then he did, because taxes needed to be raised. that seems more of a strength than something to dig at him for.

as for the man himself, my first presidential vote was a vote against him. looking at his presidency, the seeds of the Iraq war were planted, and his son's presidency really sucked. however, i don't wish him any ill. after all, he did point out that trickle down was voodoo economics. his follow through sucked slightly, but he was initially correct.

my feelings about any president are pretty complex. as a citizen, i have the advantage of hindsight to critique his interventionism. as a voter, i look at the damage his son did. i give GHWB some of the blame for that, and i regret my vote for GWB in 2000. as a human being, i see time tearing him down, and i feel sympathetic. i don't wish suffering on anyone.

i can't imagine why any rational human being would want that job. want to really make a difference? teach kids, give therapy to the mentally ill, work to find cures for diseases, and make art for people to enjoy.
 
"I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent, my opponent won't rule out raising taxes. But I will. And The Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say, to them, read my lips: no new taxes"

Can you expound upon that? To me, in this day and age, it is impressive when someone does what he believes is the right thing, even if he may have campaigned against it. Perhaps a cynic would say that he lied when he said it. But I think that he acquire more information and did the right thing. What followed was unprecedented growth. The recession ended 18 months before the 1992 election and even though things improved much faster than they have since the 2007-2009 recession ended, it wasn't fast enough for many and Clinton's lie about "it's the economy, stupid" carried the day. The economy was fine and going in the right direction.
 
and then he did, because taxes needed to be raised. that seems more of a strength than something to dig at him for. as for the man himself, my first presidential vote was a vote against him. looking at his presidency, the seeds of the Iraq war were planted, and his son's presidency really sucked. however, i don't wish him any ill. after all, he did point out that trickle down was voodoo economics. his follow through sucked slightly, but he was initially correct. my feelings about any president are pretty complex. as a citizen, i have the advantage of hindsight to critique his interventionism. as a voter, i look at the damage his son did. i give GHWB some of the blame for that, and i regret my vote for GWB in 2000. as a human being, i see time tearing him down, and i feel sympathetic. i don't wish suffering on anyone. i can't imagine why any rational human being would want that job. want to really make a difference? teach kids, give therapy to the mentally ill, work to find cures for diseases, and make art for people to enjoy.

I agree, taxes needed to be raised. Reagan pandered to his base with a big tax cut and huge spending increases. (never mind he steadily increased fees and taxes in many areas after the big tax cut.)

BushI did the correct thing but he didn't do the 'right' thing, and the 'right' was to continue tax cuts and spending of the Reagan era.

The S&L meltdown was a warning of what happens when firewalls and safeguards are removed to 'get government out of the way of business'.

BushI got stuck with the mess Reagan has started in motion.

But to be very clear on the 'read my lips' thing- it was the Conservative base that threw BushI under the bus over no new taxes. they felt betrayed and thought BushI was a RINO ever since he used the term voo-doo economics.

President BushI was a true hero and there should be a movie about him, and unfortunately he is a far better man than the combined worth of his offspring.
 
I honestly have nothing but respect for George H.W. Bush. His charitable work with Bill Clinton after the Asian tsunami is admirable as hell. Plus, fun fact, he is the only current or former President I've been in seeing distance of ... he was at the 2003 National Baseball Hall of Fame inductions and I got to shake his hand.
 
I don't think there were anyone living that could have came up with a coalition like Bush did.

G.H. Bush was probably one of the highest qualified Presidents ever to enter the White House. He knew most of the world leaders and they respected him. He was able to deal with the world's heads of states. He knew how it worked.
You do realize that the first Iraq War was contrived, right?

In war, some facts less factual - CSMonitor.com

When George H. W. Bush ordered American forces to the Persian Gulf – to reverse Iraq's August 1990 invasion of Kuwait – part of the administration case was that an Iraqi juggernaut was also threatening to roll into Saudi Arabia.

Citing top-secret satellite images, Pentagon officials estimated in mid–September that up to 250,000 Iraqi troops and 1,500 tanks stood on the border, threatening the key US oil supplier.

But when the St. Petersburg Times in Florida acquired two commercial Soviet satellite images of the same area, taken at the same time, no Iraqi troops were visible near the Saudi border – just empty desert.
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More recently, in the fall of 1990, members of Congress and the American public were swayed by the tearful testimony of a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, known only as Nayirah.

In the girl's testimony before a congressional caucus, well-documented in MacArthur's book "Second Front" and elsewhere, she described how, as a volunteer in a Kuwait maternity ward, she had seen Iraqi troops storm her hospital, steal the incubators, and leave 312 babies "on the cold floor to die."

Seven US Senators later referred to the story during debate; the motion for war passed by just five votes. In the weeks after Nayirah spoke, President Bush senior invoked the incident five times, saying that such "ghastly atrocities" were like "Hitler revisited."

But just weeks before the US bombing campaign began in January, a few press reports began to raise questions about the validity of the incubator tale.

Later, it was learned that Nayirah was in fact the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to Washington and had no connection to the Kuwait hospital.
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Did anyone watch the special about him on Fox? I thought it was well done revealing the private side of him.......He truly is a great patriotic American...God Bless him.

That he was, I will add an Amen to that. I might disagree with a couple of his policies, but he was indeed a patriotic American, no doubt about it.
 
Is this the same GHW Bush who correctly described the Laffer curve as "Voodoo economics" then conveniently forgot his scorn when offered a place on the Reagan ticket?
 
I mean once, I voted for him in 1988 and for Perot in 1992.
My uncle worked for Perot. There was some temptation there. I'm glad in the end I resisted, but either way, in the end I'm glad Clinton won. As a snot nosed Republican back then, he actually didn't do anything I didn't approve of. The witch hunt against him about sex pretty much put me on his side entirely simply because of the ridiculousness of trying to impeach someone for lying about getting a blowjob or two in the oval office. Only a complete idiot thinks our male pols are dipping it everywhere they can. So that made the entire Republican party idiots, hypocrits likely, and stupid. Then they chose GWB in the primaries and that cured me of any remnants of Republicanism.
 
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