Gov. Chris Christie on NBC's Meet the Press

I just listened to Governor Chris Christie on the radio (WCPT via the internet) , although I probably would not vote for the him, I think he is the real deal. His rivals in the Republican Party have much to worry about if he chooses to run for president and so do the Democrats if he get the nomination.

Christie tells GOP: To win Latino and black votes, 'you need to show up' - Press Pass

pbrauer said:

I just listened to Governor Chris Christie on the radio (WCPT via the internet) , although I probably would not vote for the him, I think he is the real deal. His rivals in the Republican Party have much to worry about if he chooses to run for president and so do the Democrats if he get the nomination.

Christie tells GOP: To win Latino and black votes, 'you need to show up' - Press Pass

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I haven't read the article yet. Hoping to see the repeat of MTP on MSNBC today.

I agree. Dems should fear Christie, if he gets the nomination, unless there's something in his background that would hurt his chances. I heard a reference to some ethical issue, but I didn't hear what it was.

I'm an Independent. Not sure I'm centrist or lean left, but I am considering voting Republican in the future. I voted twice for Obama. I would consider voting for Christie. I don't agree with all his positions (but like he said, if you want someone who agrees with you 100% of the time, go look in the mirror, because that's the only person who will agree with you 100% of the time). But I like his style, his forthrightness, his genuineness. I dislike his rudeness to ordinary citizens and reporters

JumpinJack said:

I haven't read the article yet. Hoping to see the repeat of MTP on MSNBC today.

I agree. Dems should fear Christie, if he gets the nomination, unless there's something in his background that would hurt his chances. I heard a reference to some ethical issue, but I didn't hear what it was.

I'm an Independent. Not sure I'm centrist or lean left, but I am considering voting Republican in the future. I voted twice for Obama. I would consider voting for Christie. I don't agree with all his positions (but like he said, if you want someone who agrees with you 100% of the time, go look in the mirror, because that's the only person who will agree with you 100% of the time). But I like his style, his forthrightness, his genuineness. I dislike his rudeness to ordinary citizens and reporters

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I agree with you on both of those points I highlighted. I could not vote for him because of the judges he would pick. But I do like him and likability goes a long way in getting elected. Mitt Romney could not warm up to the people and I think that was a significant in his losing the election. Christie has a major problem in that the right wing don't like he because he praised President Obama. He needs to spend a good deal of his time in the Mainstream media and little on Fox News IMO.

JumpinJack said:

I haven't read the article yet. Hoping to see the repeat of MTP on MSNBC today.

I agree. Dems should fear Christie, if he gets the nomination, unless there's something in his background that would hurt his chances. I heard a reference to some ethical issue, but I didn't hear what it was.

I'm an Independent. Not sure I'm centrist or lean left, but I am considering voting Republican in the future. I voted twice for Obama. I would consider voting for Christie. I don't agree with all his positions (but like he said, if you want someone who agrees with you 100% of the time, go look in the mirror, because that's the only person who will agree with you 100% of the time). But I like his style, his forthrightness, his genuineness. I dislike his rudeness to ordinary citizens and reporters

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So it INFURIATED you when they called Romney a flip-flopper? Christie probably holds the flipflop record. He will literally veto legislation he proposed, such as gun regulations. He'll push it thru the legislature with Demo support, but the gun-lobby complaints so he vetoes his own bill after getting it passed. He's flip-flopped on immigration. Redlight cameras. Romney's tax plan. Abortion... The Christie in a primary is the anti-Christie in the general election. Generally, to know where Christie stands is to ask what is best for him to say or do at that particularly moment.

However, he certainly talks a different game in self praising himself. Like Obama, he is very skilled at self promotion, among the best at declaring he isn't like other politicians - and isn't really like himself either.

Christie is the quintessential "Some of my friends are for it. Some of my friends are against it. I stand with my friends" politician in what he says, but who he stands for is only himself. Whatever it takes to win.

Yeah, that's "forthright genuiness." :roll:

Christie is not a cnservative. Putting him up for 2016 would be exactly the same mistake the Republicans made the last two times. They put up a moderate to try to win the swing vote and their base stayed home. I'm in business, I understand the best way to increase your customer base is to keep them happy and let them bring you new customers. Ignoring your client base while advertising for new clients is a waste of time and resources. No, the Republicans need to run an honest to God conservative. If the old model is correct in that each side has a solid 40% and the battle is over he remaining 20% then burning your solid 40% to try and get a cut of the 20% is tactically retarded. And yet they keep doing it, like this time it's going to work....

tech30528 said:

Christie is not a cnservative. Putting him up for 2016 would be exactly the same mistake the Republicans made the last two times. They put up a moderate to try to win the swing vote and their base stsyed home. I'min business, I understand the best way to increase your customer base is to keep them happy and let them bring you new customers. Ignoring your client base while advertising for new clients is a waste of time and resources. No, the Republicans need to run an honest to God conservative. If the old model is correct in that each side has a solid 40% and the battle is over he remaining 20% then burning your solid 40% to try and get a cut of the 20% is tactically retarded. And yet they keep doing it, like[ b] this [/b] time it's going to work....

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1st of all I totally disagree that Chris Christie isn't a conservative. Hey may not be cut from the same cloth as the Tea Party, but he certainly has ran New Jersey as a conservative Republican.

2nd, he got the 40% base and the 20% swing votes and then some. He won over 60% of the vote in a deep blue liberal state. With a majority of the women vote, Hispanic vote, moderate vote, independent vote, and an envious chunk of the Democratic and black voters, he's proof it can be done.

We see the media and press going to unlimited lengths to praise and build up Christie now. Most people, ie sheeple, will jump on the wagon chanting "Christie! Christie! Christie!" and will recite all the reasons the media says Christie is great.

Then the media will tear him down. "OMG! Did you know X and Y about Christie?! Christie is awful and can't win for X and Y" - and those same people will recite all the reasons not to vote for Christie.

It's not like the media didn't do this over and over and over to the Republicans last time. Why not do it again? Starting with Christie. Build him up. The sheeple agree. Tear him down. The sheeple agree. Christie is first on that list for this presidential election.

ToastyOats said:

1st of all I totally disagree that Chris Christie isn't a conservative. Hey may not be cut from the same cloth as the Tea Party, but he certainly has ran New Jersey as a conservative Republican.

2nd, he got the 40% base and the 20% swing votes and then some. He won over 60% of the vote in a deep blue liberal state. With a majority of the women vote, Hispanic vote, moderate vote, independent vote, and an envious chunk of the Democratic and black voters, he's proof it can be done.

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LOL! Let's watch all the Democrats on the forum praising Christie and explaining why Republicans should nominate him! Christie's a great guy. He declared Obama is "doing a great job" and boycotted Romney and cursed Republicans when the presidential election was a dead heat. What could possibly be a greater Republican to Democrats than that?

tech30528 said:

Christie is not a cnservative. Putting him up for 2016 would be exactly the same mistake the Republicans made the last two times. They put up a moderate to try to win the swing vote and their base stayed home. I'm in business, I understand the best way to increase your customer base is to keep them happy and let them bring you new customers. Ignoring your client base while advertising for new clients is a waste of time and resources. No, the Republicans need to run an honest to God conservative. If the old model is correct in that each side has a solid 40% and the battle is over he remaining 20% then burning your solid 40% to try and get a cut of the 20% is tactically retarded. And yet they keep doing it, like this time it's going to work....

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I don't believe candidates with extremist party positions are going to be seen as anything but obstructionists this cycle. Anyone that runs towards the middle has a better chance of attracting some of their base and a larger percentage of the swing vote, whereas a candidate that runs too hard on intractable issues will not even carry a large part of their own base.

ToastyOats said:

1st of all I totally disagree that Chris Christie isn't a conservative. Hey may not be cut from the same cloth as the Tea Party, but he certainly has ran New Jersey as a conservative Republican.

2nd, he got the 40% base and the 20% swing votes and then some. He won over 60% of the vote in a deep blue liberal state. With a majority of the women vote, Hispanic vote, moderate vote, independent vote, and an envious chunk of the Democratic and black voters, he's proof it can be done.

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I'm not interested in putting a guy in office just because he has an R next to his name, anyone who would seek and pass a law to limit the size of soft drinks for the good of the community while being a fat slob himself is the wrong kind of leader.

grip said:

I don't believe candidates with extremist party positions are going to be seen as anything but obstructionists this cycle. Anyone that runs towards the middle has a better chance of attracting some of their base and a larger percentage of the swing vote, whereas a candidate that runs too hard on intractable issues will not even carry a large part of their own base.

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There appears to be a growing disconnect between politicians who can lead and those who can win elections. Obama is great at campaigning but is a horrible leader. This speaks volumes of the voters. If we are to have a chance of saving this country we are going to have to teach voters that all issues don't fit on a bumper sticker and that history is important. As much as his newly awakened followers will likely deny it if they had known who this guy really was and had been honest about who they themselves were we wouldn't be in this mess.

pbrauer said:

I just listened to Governor Chris Christie on the radio (WCPT via the internet) , although I probably would not vote for the him, I think he is the real deal. His rivals in the Republican Party have much to worry about if he chooses to run for president and so do the Democrats if he get the nomination.

Christie tells GOP: To win Latino and black votes, 'you need to show up' - Press Pass

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I saw him make the same point. While I would have problems with Christie (I think he is entirely self-focused, and that his actions betray that), he is absolutely correct on this issue.

But it has to be something that takes place across the GOP, and really, frankly, only candidates who are already fairly comfortable in their win can do it. Candidates who are in a neck-and-neck race need to focus their time and resources on where they will get the greater return on investment.

tech30528 said:

I'm not interested in putting a guy in office just because he has an R next to his name, anyone who would seek and pass a law to limit the size of soft drinks for the good of the community while being a fat slob himself is the wrong kind of leader.

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Wasn't that Mayor Bloomberg that tried the soda ban?

tech30528 said:

Christie is not a cnservative. Putting him up for 2016 would be exactly the same mistake the Republicans made the last two times. They put up a moderate to try to win the swing vote and their base stayed home. I'm in business, I understand the best way to increase your customer base is to keep them happy and let them bring you new customers. Ignoring your client base while advertising for new clients is a waste of time and resources. No, the Republicans need to run an honest to God conservative. If the old model is correct in that each side has a solid 40% and the battle is over he remaining 20% then burning your solid 40% to try and get a cut of the 20% is tactically retarded. And yet they keep doing it, like this time it's going to work....

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I don't think each side has a solid 40. I think each side has a solid 25-30.

Maybe Ted Cruz can do to the GOP what George Wallace did to the Dems in '68..
Otherwise, Christie wins in 2016, with or without either of our votes..

tech30528 said:

I'm not interested in putting a guy in office just because he has an R next to his name, anyone who would seek and pass a law to limit the size of soft drinks for the good of the community while being a fat slob himself is the wrong kind of leader.

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The only problem I see is either the TEApartiers or the OWSers heckling him and he shoots off his big mouth..He has a big problem with teachers at the ground level but has gambled that will work for him in the GOP..

pbrauer said:

I agree with you on both of those points I highlighted.

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I could not vote for him because of the judges he would pick.

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I don't see Christie picking judges like Alito, Thomas and Scalia..He will be on his bully pulpit with a Senate determined to pay any GOP President back after the sabotage the last 5 years..

Christie has a major problem in that the right wing don't like he because he praised President Obama.

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Christie will go on the offense instead of playing defense with Sandy, something he is very good at..His choice of VP is all that is left in my mind as a question for him to be the nominee..

He needs to spend a good deal of his time in the Mainstream media and little on Fox News IMO.

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Christie is so magnetic and quotable, all the media big-hitters will be after him..
I expect O'Reilly to back off his early comments that he won't let Christie do his show..

Christie has the 50-state ground game needed for the complicated caucus/primary system left behind by fellow Mid-Eastern USA Republican Michael Steele from Maryland..Dems can't stop him in PA and NJ..

tech30528 said:

I'm not interested in putting a guy in office just because he has an R next to his name, anyone who would seek and pass a law to limit the size of soft drinks for the good of the community while being a fat slob himself is the wrong kind of leader.

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Christie didn't do this. That was Bloomberg.

Governor Christie Rejects Bloomberg’s ‘Daddy State’ Large Soda Ban - ABC News

NIMBY said:

Maybe Ted Cruz can do to the GOP what George Wallace did to the Dems in '68..
Otherwise, Christie wins in 2016, with or without either of our votes..

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It sounds strange, but they are LOTS of overweight voters. That literally could help Christie. A new voting block. I'm being serious. There will be so many jokes about his weight that it could get some people to go his way.

A Christie Republican nomination means Democrats can't lose the White House. If Christie wins? He'll continue President Obama's "good work" and continue to battle every Republican in Congress, who he declared all of which are evil.

joko104 said:

A Christie Republican nomination means Democrats can't lose the White House. If Christie wins? He'll continue President Obama's "good work" and continue to battle every Republican in Congress, who he declared all of which are evil.

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He declared all Republicans in Congress "evil", when?

joko104 said:

It sounds strange, but they are LOTS of overweight voters. That literally could help Christie. A new voting block. I'm being serious. There will be so many jokes about his weight that it could get some people to go his way.

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I have said this before joko, that Christie cuts across that swath of voters that are over on the over/under, those TEAmembers of the TEA..Of all the GOP probables, Christie scares me the least..As for being overW, take US 2 from Vermont to New York..people seem to more than double in size right away..Go to Wal-Mart, got size; and scooters in the aisles; NASCAR-like--ZZ Top beards--Christie will still go to Springsteen, now he'll go to Chesney..sp..and hit NASCAR,,and he dissed Pagiarist Paul on that beer summit..

JumpinJack said:

I haven't read the article yet. Hoping to see the repeat of MTP on MSNBC today.

I agree. Dems should fear Christie, if he gets the nomination, unless there's something in his background that would hurt his chances. I heard a reference to some ethical issue, but I didn't hear what it was.

I'm an Independent. Not sure I'm centrist or lean left, but I am considering voting Republican in the future. I voted twice for Obama. I would consider voting for Christie. I don't agree with all his positions (but like he said, if you want someone who agrees with you 100% of the time, go look in the mirror, because that's the only person who will agree with you 100% of the time). But I like his style, his forthrightness, his genuineness. I dislike his rudeness to ordinary citizens and reporters

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I am generally progressive, always independent, and I'm a Christie 2016 Voter. (As I've said for a few years).

You can Watch Christie on MTP including the "show up" part right now.
In fact, all of MTP by clicking on segments on left side of page.
Kerry is grilled on the Iran talks in the opening parts.

NBCNews.com Video Player

The other 2 segments with Christie will auto-follow the above one in 10 second increment.

ToastyOats said:

He declared all Republicans in Congress "evil", when?

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I believe it was during the vote in Congress for addition funding for Hurricane Sandy. The bill was stuffed full of pork spending by the Democrats that Boehner refused to bring it to a vote until all the pork was stripped from it. This pissed Christie off.

joko104 said:

A Christie Republican nomination means Democrats can't lose the White House. If Christie wins? He'll continue President Obama's "good work" and continue to battle every Republican in Congress, who he declared all of which are evil.

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I really don't see Christie even getting past the primaries even if he did run. And here is why. All the talk has been the Republicans need to run a moderate like Christie if they want to win. BULL.
Cuccinelli got 92% of the Republican vote. He lost only 4% to McAuliffe and 4% to liberal plant-libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis. That means 9.2 out of 10 Republicans (including moderates who we are told can't stomach the "Tea Party extremists" in the GOP)but they still voted for this so called "radical right-winger."
Cuccinelli also received 47% of the independent vote (swing voters) versus McAuliffe, who received only 38%. Cuccinelli had to deal with a third party Sarvis got 15% of the Independent vote. Cuccinelli clearly won the Independent vote. Could it be that the fake libertarian candidate that was pretty much funded by the left leaning libertarian, a former bundler for Obama, lured away from Cuccinelli not only up to 4% of Republican votes, but a number of percentage points of the Independent votes as well? I say yes indeed. Without Sarvis, Cuccinelli could have had as much as 62% of the independent vote and that isn't far off from Christie, who got 66% of the independent vote in a race with only one Democrat challenger. Christie also had loads of cash to spend on his campaign from the GOP governors and RNC and the advantage of being an incumbent. Cuccinelli had neither. In fact the Republican establishment was very stingy with their funding and I think the case can be made the reason is the establishment elites in the Republican party didn't want to see another Tea Party backed candidate win. But the numbers tell the story and it shuts down the talk that a conservative like Cuccinelli was a right wing radical and doesn't appeal to moderates and independents. Absolute nonsense because they clearly voted for him.

joko104 said:

A Christie Republican nomination means Democrats can't lose the White House. If Christie wins? He'll continue President Obama's "good work"

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Christie will not screw states with Natural/National disasters, fighting Cantor/Ryan..

and continue to battle every Republican in Congress, who he declared all of which are evil.

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hardly, Christie came to D.c. that wed. and saved what was left of Boehner's ass by meeting with Senate GOPs