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When the Whole World Has Drones

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A slim aircraft glided through Israeli airspace, maintaining low altitude and taking a winding path to avoid detection. It flew over sensitive military installations and was beginning its approach to the Dimona nuclear reactor when it was blown from the sky by the Israel Defense Forces. The plane was pilotless, directed by agents elsewhere, and had been attempting to relay images back home. Whether they were successfully transmitted, Israelis won’t say, perhaps because they don’t know. But here’s what’s certain: It wasn’t American. It wasn’t Russian or Chinese. It was an Iranian drone, assembled in Lebanon and flown by Hezbollah.The proliferation of drone technology has moved well beyond the control of the United States government and its closest allies. The aircraft are too easy to obtain, with barriers to entry on the production side crumbling too quickly to place limits on the spread of a technology that promises to transform warfare on a global scale. Already, more than 75 countries have remote piloted aircraft. More than 50 nations are building a total of nearly a thousand types. At its last display at a trade show in Beijing, China showed off 25 different unmanned aerial vehicles. Not toys or models, but real flying machines.
It’s a classic and common phase in the life cycle of a military innovation: An advanced country and its weapons developers create a tool, and then others learn how to make their own. But what makes this case rare, and dangerous, is the powerful combination of efficiency and lethality spreading in an environment lacking internationally accepted guidelines on legitimate use. This technology is snowballing through a global arena where the main precedent for its application is the one set by the United States; it’s a precedent Washington does not want anyone following.
America, the world’s leading democracy and a country built on a legal and moral framework unlike any other, has adopted a war-making process that too often bypasses its traditional, regimented, and rigorously overseen military in favor of a secret program never publicly discussed, based on legal advice never properly vetted. The Obama administration has used its executive power to refuse or outright ignore requests by congressional overseers, and it has resisted monitoring by federal courts.
To implement this covert program, the administration has adopted a tool that lowers the threshold for lethal force by reducing the cost and risk of combat. This still-expanding counterterrorism use of drones to kill people, including its own citizens, outside of traditionally defined battlefields and established protocols for warfare, has given friends and foes a green light to employ these aircraft in extraterritorial operations that could not only affect relations between the nation-states involved but also destabilize entire regions and potentially upset geopolitical order.


Read more @: When the Whole World Has Drones - NationalJournal.com

It seems the new arms build up is drones, and it seems everybody wants them. The new arms race seems to be the drone race and its having major consequences not only at home but abroad.
 
Makes you think about Terminator and Skynet. **** is getting real.

At present there's human oversight and control... at present.
 
Robot Combat Wars!

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I'm looking forward to the second amendment discussion on this. The military has them, the police have them, it's only a matter of time before civilians have them. And then what?
 
This is scary stuff, but no surprise as the capitalist war machine has to continually find new ways to kill people.
 
Makes you think about Terminator and Skynet. **** is getting real.

At present there's human oversight and control... at present.

We will never fully automate drone strikes. There's just way too much involved in making the decision on whether to kill a person or not using drones.

We may automate other things, but we will never automate when guns shoot at a target or when a bomb gets dropped. There will always be somebody who will have to press a button.
 
I'm looking forward to the second amendment discussion on this. The military has them, the police have them, it's only a matter of time before civilians have them. And then what?

Personal drones are commonly available.
 
Personal drones are commonly available.

I'm aware. I'm researching them now for emergency response. Live video, not weapons.
 
I'm aware. I'm researching them now for emergency response. Live video, not weapons.

I can strap some crap to my drone and make it a suicide drone.
 
I can strap some crap to my drone and make it a suicide drone.

I saw one on YouTube with a pistol mounted to it with a trigger solenoid, it handled the recoil pretty well.
 
I saw one on YouTube with a pistol mounted to it with a trigger solenoid, it handled the recoil pretty well.

Is there any kind of missile available to non-special license drone owners? Fireworks level perhaps, smoke or something.
 
There are far fewer countries waging war in this day and age than there used to be, but there are a few culprits who just can't seem to break the addiction. Automated war in the 21st century is uncalled for. War is already inhumane, but letting a machine do the job makes it a whole lot more impersonal. The corporate psychopaths in the military-industrial complex need to have their priorities forcefully straightened out. These forever wars cannot continue.

If you don't want war then stop waging it. Peace is not all that complicated, if you are truly invested in it.
 
The real fun will come when "Shotguns" are available that will allow sporting types to shoot them down.
 
Is there any kind of missile available to non-special license drone owners? Fireworks level perhaps, smoke or something.
Oh I don't know. I'm not interested in arming one. I would think one of those Judge pistols would be interesting. Don't know why you'd want to have a missile on it, if you were going to take down other drones I would think a hacker and a directional antenna would be the way to go. The ones I'm looking at require a HAM license because of the frequency they operate on. The ones that don't require the license have much shorter range, both for control and video transmission.
 
Oh I don't know. I'm not interested in arming one.

Are you against assault drones?

Don't know why you'd want to have a missile on it, if you were going to take down other drones I would think a hacker and a directional antenna would be the way to go.

Smoke, flares and stuff like that.
 
We will never fully automate drone strikes. There's just way too much involved in making the decision on whether to kill a person or not using drones.

We may automate other things, but we will never automate when guns shoot at a target or when a bomb gets dropped. There will always be somebody who will have to press a button.



I tend to agree with you on the whole... and I hope the generation after ours doesn't take a different view...
 
I'm looking forward to the second amendment discussion on this. The military has them, the police have them, it's only a matter of time before civilians have them. And then what?

Civilians have had them for 50 years. They are known as radio controlled model aircraft. I have a bunch of them. Are you afraid?
 
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