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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yet you have no idea where that money goes? Do you think states should pay for govt. employees including Medicare, Medicaid, and SS? People like Jerry Brown have you duped, you buy the rhetoric and ignore the results just like you are doing by posting meaningless data out of context. Jerry Brown is making you and the rest of the left look foolish. I do feel sorry for people like you who buy rhetoric and ignore context and substance.
    so , what you are saying, is that he is a clone of you? the whole buying the rhetoric and posting meaningless data out of context....

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Really?
    Which industries do they want to nationalize?
    Healthcare to start

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    No, we look at the charts and see that conservative controlled states take the most federal money. You would think that with California's population it'd be the other way around, but it's not is it. That's because people like Jerry Brown know what the hell they're doing and people don't wanna live in states that have nothing to offer and are socially and politically ignorant.
    Your source on that is fraud. They are including money for Federal facilities and infrastructure, military bases, prisons, VA hospitals, etc. Then contrasting it with the size of the states economy to make it look like traditional red states get the most federal aid. A military base in Utah looks a lot bigger than one in California compared to size of economy, even though Utah's economy is 10 times healther.

    The fact is blue areas/counties that voted Hillary account for the overwhelming majority of nation wide food stamp and welfare type consumption.

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, the "left" doesn't want socialism. No one wants real socialism. That's just a right wing meme: "liberalism is socialism and just one step to Marxism." Remember when Hannity et. al. was claiming Obama was a Marxist because he supported income redistribution via progressive taxation?
    Progressive/Liberal/Socialist/Communist is the Left. No matter what the rename themselves in the long run they are the same. Social Issues although important do not define Left or Right. Social Issues are what Marxist use to get support from Useful Idiots who normally would never give support to Socialism/Communism.

    There are two types of Progressive Liberals:

    1. Socialists attempting to lie about what they are.

    2. Useful Idiots who join up because they think it’s cool or they like a social issue (abortion, gay rights). But they don’t realize they are giving support to the most destructive political/economic ideology the world has ever seen.

    A close examination of the governing platforms of both Socialism and Communism shows the absolute only difference between the two is Socialist try to claim they can function without a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

    The problem with that is Socialism is so antithetical to human nature that people have to be forced to do it. This can only happen with an all powerful centralized government controlling everything AKA a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

    Libertarians and Conservatives are on the Right (Although there are Leftist currently trying to steal the term Libertarian the way they stole the term Liberal decades ago).

    The fundamental defining trait of Conservatives and Libertarians is a desire for Limited Power Govt and a Free Market Economy. The difference between the two is stance on social issues.

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yet you have no idea where that money goes? Do you think states should pay for govt. employees including Medicare, Medicaid, and SS? People like Jerry Brown have you duped, you buy the rhetoric and ignore the results just like you are doing by posting meaningless data out of context. Jerry Brown is making you and the rest of the left look foolish. I do feel sorry for people like you who buy rhetoric and ignore context and substance.
    That money goes into their welfare systems dude. It goes into the state expenditures and because the right-wing have no plans on growth, because nobody wants to live there, said states pay little or nothing back.

    My family comes from a southern right-wing state dude, and after the agrarian system was torn apart by unfair competition and low wages, the states fell under the spell of federal money: I think you guys call it redistribution... The right-wing draws more than anybody else! and the facts prove it.
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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I suppose the view is very different from the other side of the world, than it is to someone living in the very middle of this mess.
    Sounds like you didn't create a $250mm business like my cal daughter. Too many world vacations,,,,, cal is a real mess? Only to the uneducated?

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Casca XV View Post
    Your source on that is fraud. They are including money for Federal facilities and infrastructure, military bases, prisons, VA hospitals, etc. Then contrasting it with the size of the states economy to make it look like traditional red states get the most federal aid. A military base in Utah looks a lot bigger than one in California compared to size of economy, even though Utah's economy is 10 times healther.

    The fact is blue areas/counties that voted Hillary account for the overwhelming majority of nation wide food stamp and welfare type consumption.
    I thought most of the states that took more from the gov than they put in were mostly red confederate states

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Casca XV View Post
    Your source on that is fraud. They are including money for Federal facilities and infrastructure, military bases, prisons, VA hospitals, etc. Then contrasting it with the size of the states economy to make it look like traditional red states get the most federal aid. A military base in Utah looks a lot bigger than one in California compared to size of economy, even though Utah's economy is 10 times healther.

    The fact is blue areas/counties that voted Hillary account for the overwhelming majority of nation wide food stamp and welfare type consumption.
    Well my cal had to visit Mississippi on business and couldn't believe it. Couldn't get out fast enough. Thought she was back in the KKK days

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Healthcare to start
    Really? They've proposed a system like they have in Spain, where the health care providers are employees of the government?
    Or, have they just proposed to make the government the ultimate single and bypass the bloated insurance industry?
    "Those were lies, pure and simple."

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    Re: California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

    Quote Originally Posted by Casca XV View Post
    Progressive/Liberal/Socialist/Communist is the Left. No matter what the rename themselves in the long run they are the same. Social Issues although important do not define Left or Right. Social Issues are what Marxist use to get support from Useful Idiots who normally would never give support to Socialism/Communism.

    There are two types of Progressive Liberals:

    1. Socialists attempting to lie about what they are.

    2. Useful Idiots who join up because they think it’s cool or they like a social issue (abortion, gay rights). But they don’t realize they are giving support to the most destructive political/economic ideology the world has ever seen.

    A close examination of the governing platforms of both Socialism and Communism shows the absolute only difference between the two is Socialist try to claim they can function without a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

    The problem with that is Socialism is so antithetical to human nature that people have to be forced to do it. This can only happen with an all powerful centralized government controlling everything AKA a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

    Libertarians and Conservatives are on the Right (Although there are Leftist currently trying to steal the term Libertarian the way they stole the term Liberal decades ago).

    The fundamental defining trait of Conservatives and Libertarians is a desire for Limited Power Govt and a Free Market Economy. The difference between the two is stance on social issues.
    Words have meanings, real ones.

    I could write a post about how self described conservatives are actually barflies, but that would entail a re definition of the terms "conservative" and "barflies." I could write a post saying that we need to elect more German Shepherds, but that would also entail... Hey, come to think of it, perhaps what we really do need are more German Shepherds. Loyal, intelligent, protective... yes indeed, let's vote the German shepherd party.
    "Those were lies, pure and simple."

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