If you do not believe in taxes......

**danarhea** · 04-29-12, 03:46 PM

Do not use Medicare.
Do not use Social Security
Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars.
Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
Do not use public restrooms.
Do not send your kids to public schools.
Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
Do not live in areas with clean air.
Do not drink clean water.
Do not visit National Parks.
Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
Do not eat or use FDA inspected food and medicines.
Do not bring your kids to public playgrounds.
Do not walk or run on sidewalks.
Do not use public recreational facilities such as basketball and tennis courts.
Do not seek shelter facilities or food in soup kitchens when you are homeless and hungry.
Do not apply for educational or job training assistance when you lose your job.
Do not apply for food stamps when you can’t feed your children.
Do not use the judiciary system for any reason.
Do not ask for an attorney when you are arrested and do not ask for one to be assigned to you by the court.
Do not apply for any Pell Grants.
Do not use cures that were discovered by labs using federal dollars.
Do not fly on federally regulated airplanes.
Do not use any product that can trace its development back to NASA.
Do not watch the weather provided by the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to severe weather warnings from the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to tsunami, hurricane, or earthquake alert systems.
Do not apply for federal housing.
Do not use the internet, which was developed by the military.
Do not swim in clean rivers.
Do not allow your child to eat school lunches or breakfasts.
Do not ask for FEMA assistance when everything you own gets wiped out by disaster.
Do not ask the military to defend your life and home in the event of a foreign invasion.
Do not use your cell phone or home telephone.
Do not buy firearms that wouldn’t have been developed without the support of the US Government and military. That includes most of them.
Do not eat USDA inspected produce and meat.
Do not apply for government grants to start your own business.
Do not apply to win a government contract.
Do not buy any vehicle that has been inspected by government safety agencies.
Do not buy any product that is protected from poisons, toxins, etc…by the Consumer Protection Agency.
Do not save your money in a bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not use Veterans benefits or military health care.
Do not use the G.I. Bill to go to college.
Do not apply for unemployment benefits.
Do not use any electricity from companies regulated by the Department of Energy.
Do not live in homes that are built to code.
Do not run for public office. Politicians are paid with taxpayer dollars.
Do not ask for help from the FBI, S.W.A.T, the bomb squad, Homeland Security, State troopers, etc…
Do not apply for any government job whatsoever as all state and federal employees are paid with tax dollars.
Do not use public libraries.
Do not use the US Postal Service.
Do not visit the National Archives.
Do not visit Presidential Libraries.
Do not use airports that are secured by the federal government.
Do not apply for loans from any bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not ask the government to help you clean up after a tornado.
Do not ask the Department of Agriculture to provide a subsidy to help you run your farm.
Do not take walks in National Forests.
Do not ask for taxpayer dollars for your oil company.
Do not ask the federal government to bail your company out during recessions.
Do not seek medical care from places that use federal dollars.
Do not use Medicaid.
Do not use WIC.
Do not use electricity generated by Hoover Dam.
Do not use electricity or any service provided by the Tennessee Valley Authority.
Do not ask the Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild levees when they break.
Do not let the Coast Guard save you from drowning when your boat capsizes at sea.
Do not ask the government to help evacuate you when all hell breaks loose in the country you are in.
Do not visit historic landmarks.
Do not visit fisheries.
Do not expect to see animals that are federally protected because of the Endangered Species List.
Do not expect plows to clear roads of snow and ice so your kids can go to school and so you can get to work.
Do not hunt or camp on federal land.
Do not work anywhere that has a safe workplace because of government regulations.
Do not use public transportation.
Do not drink water from public water fountains.
Do not whine when someone copies your work and sells it as their own. Government enforces copyright laws.
Do not expect to own your home, car, or boat. Government organizes and keeps all titles.
Do not expect convicted felons to remain off the streets.
Do not eat in restaurants that are regulated by food quality and safety standards.
Do not seek help from the US Embassy if you need assistance in a foreign nation.
Do not apply for a passport to travel outside of the United States.
Do not apply for a patent when you invent something.
Do not adopt a child through your local, state, or federal governments. 89.Do not use elevators that have been inspected by federal or state safety regulators.
Do not use any resource that was discovered by the USGS.
Do not ask for energy assistance from the government.
Do not move to any other developed nation, because the taxes are much higher.
Do not go to a beach that is kept clean by the state.
Do not use money printed by the US Treasury.
Do not complain when millions more illegal immigrants cross the border because there are no more border patrol agents.
Do not attend a state university.
Do not see any doctor that is licensed through the state.
Do not use any water from municipal water systems.
Do not complain when diseases and viruses, that were once fought around the globe by the US government and CDC, reach your house.
Do not work for any company that is required to pay its workers a livable wage, provide them sick days, vacation days, and benefits.
Do not expect to be able to vote on election days. Government provides voting booths, election day officials, and voting machines which are paid for with taxes.
Do not ride trains. The railroad was built with government financial assistance.

**Fletch** · 04-29-12, 03:57 PM

I'll take that deal.

**danarhea** · 04-29-12, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Fletch

I'll take that deal.

Then don't complain about there not being enough done to control the borders. That takes taxes too.

**Mycroft** · 04-29-12, 04:11 PM

Out of all the items in that list, only those involving the military and those involving the post office are mandated under the Constitution.

Look, I don't think anyone wants to eliminate taxes altogether. We just need to be a little more selective as to WHAT we spend our tax money on.

**Jack Webb** · 04-29-12, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by danarhea

Do not use Medicare.
Do not use Social Security
Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars.
Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
Do not use public restrooms.
Do not send your kids to public schools.
Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
Do not live in areas with clean air.
Do not drink clean water.
Do not visit National Parks.
Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
Do not eat or use FDA inspected food and medicines.
Do not bring your kids to public playgrounds.
Do not walk or run on sidewalks.
Do not use public recreational facilities such as basketball and tennis courts.
Do not seek shelter facilities or food in soup kitchens when you are homeless and hungry.
Do not apply for educational or job training assistance when you lose your job.
Do not apply for food stamps when you can’t feed your children.
Do not use the judiciary system for any reason.
Do not ask for an attorney when you are arrested and do not ask for one to be assigned to you by the court.
Do not apply for any Pell Grants.
Do not use cures that were discovered by labs using federal dollars.
Do not fly on federally regulated airplanes.
Do not use any product that can trace its development back to NASA.
Do not watch the weather provided by the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to severe weather warnings from the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to tsunami, hurricane, or earthquake alert systems.
Do not apply for federal housing.
Do not use the internet, which was developed by the military.
Do not swim in clean rivers.
Do not allow your child to eat school lunches or breakfasts.
Do not ask for FEMA assistance when everything you own gets wiped out by disaster.
Do not ask the military to defend your life and home in the event of a foreign invasion.
Do not use your cell phone or home telephone.
Do not buy firearms that wouldn’t have been developed without the support of the US Government and military. That includes most of them.
Do not eat USDA inspected produce and meat.
Do not apply for government grants to start your own business.
Do not apply to win a government contract.
Do not buy any vehicle that has been inspected by government safety agencies.
Do not buy any product that is protected from poisons, toxins, etc…by the Consumer Protection Agency.
Do not save your money in a bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not use Veterans benefits or military health care.
Do not use the G.I. Bill to go to college.
Do not apply for unemployment benefits.
Do not use any electricity from companies regulated by the Department of Energy.
Do not live in homes that are built to code.
Do not run for public office. Politicians are paid with taxpayer dollars.
Do not ask for help from the FBI, S.W.A.T, the bomb squad, Homeland Security, State troopers, etc…
Do not apply for any government job whatsoever as all state and federal employees are paid with tax dollars.
Do not use public libraries.
Do not use the US Postal Service.
Do not visit the National Archives.
Do not visit Presidential Libraries.
Do not use airports that are secured by the federal government.
Do not apply for loans from any bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not ask the government to help you clean up after a tornado.
Do not ask the Department of Agriculture to provide a subsidy to help you run your farm.
Do not take walks in National Forests.
Do not ask for taxpayer dollars for your oil company.
Do not ask the federal government to bail your company out during recessions.
Do not seek medical care from places that use federal dollars.
Do not use Medicaid.
Do not use WIC.
Do not use electricity generated by Hoover Dam.
Do not use electricity or any service provided by the Tennessee Valley Authority.
Do not ask the Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild levees when they break.
Do not let the Coast Guard save you from drowning when your boat capsizes at sea.
Do not ask the government to help evacuate you when all hell breaks loose in the country you are in.
Do not visit historic landmarks.
Do not visit fisheries.
Do not expect to see animals that are federally protected because of the Endangered Species List.
Do not expect plows to clear roads of snow and ice so your kids can go to school and so you can get to work.
Do not hunt or camp on federal land.
Do not work anywhere that has a safe workplace because of government regulations.
Do not use public transportation.
Do not drink water from public water fountains.
Do not whine when someone copies your work and sells it as their own. Government enforces copyright laws.
Do not expect to own your home, car, or boat. Government organizes and keeps all titles.
Do not expect convicted felons to remain off the streets.
Do not eat in restaurants that are regulated by food quality and safety standards.
Do not seek help from the US Embassy if you need assistance in a foreign nation.
Do not apply for a passport to travel outside of the United States.
Do not apply for a patent when you invent something.
Do not adopt a child through your local, state, or federal governments. 89.Do not use elevators that have been inspected by federal or state safety regulators.
Do not use any resource that was discovered by the USGS.
Do not ask for energy assistance from the government.
Do not move to any other developed nation, because the taxes are much higher.
Do not go to a beach that is kept clean by the state.
Do not use money printed by the US Treasury.
Do not complain when millions more illegal immigrants cross the border because there are no more border patrol agents.
Do not attend a state university.
Do not see any doctor that is licensed through the state.
Do not use any water from municipal water systems.
Do not complain when diseases and viruses, that were once fought around the globe by the US government and CDC, reach your house.
Do not work for any company that is required to pay its workers a livable wage, provide them sick days, vacation days, and benefits.
Do not expect to be able to vote on election days. Government provides voting booths, election day officials, and voting machines which are paid for with taxes.
Do not ride trains. The railroad was built with government financial assistance.

This thread is called, "If you do not believe in taxes......"

Then, you provide a list of services, but you didn't finish your sentence - unless your reply to Fletch was you point.

Your point is ridiculous. Even the 49% of Americans who don't pay federal income tax pay taxes to the federal government.

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Jobs and Regulation
January 18, 2011

According to the latest report from the Small Business Administration, America's regulatory state costs our economy $1.75 trillion annually. -- For America’s smallest businesses, this cost amounts to roughly $11,000 per employee, per year.

With these businesses normally providing 2/3 of all new jobs, and amounting to 90% of all firms, it's easy to understand why the U.S. economy is hobbling along. That amount, $1.75 trillion, is no small matter—in fact, as I have long said, these costs are an anchor, dragging this economy down.

Jobs and Regulation -- Is Obama Finally Getting Serious About Solutions? | Fox News

When it comes down to it, the combined average federal burden of regulation and taxes
was a remarkable $37,962 per household."

Nicole V. Crain and W. Mark Crain: The Regulation Tax Grows - WSJ.com

***
‘Hidden tax’ reportedly costs economy $1.75 trillion
April 19, 2011

Washington taxes and spends, but lost in the shuffle are the trillions of dollars Americans spend every year just to comply with federal regulations.

Wayne Crews, vice president for policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, combed through the 81,405 pages of the Federal Registry — which contains the nation’s regulations on businesses, and state and local governments — and cites a report showing that regulation cost the economy a whopping $1.75 trillion in 2008.

â€˜Hidden taxâ€™ reportedly costs economy $1.75 trillion – Patriot Update

The United States has the highest corporate tax.

“United States companies are now in the position of trying to compete in the 21st century world economy with a 20th century tax system,” said Ho. “Dozens of countries around the world—including many of the United States’ closest trading partners—have realized that sky-high corporate tax rates are an economic dead end.

Highest corporate tax rate | America | Japan | The Daily Caller

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The real subject, as Mycroft alludes to, is that most of your long list is unconstitutional.

From September 17, 1787 to February 3, 1913, 126 years, most of U.S. history, it was unconstitutional for the federal government to tax "income."

The 16th amendment should be repealed and The Fair Tax Act (HR 25, S 296) should be passed.

It abolishes all federal personal and corporate income taxes, gift, estate, capital gains, alternative minimum, Social Security, Medicare, and self-employment taxes and replaces them with one simple, visible, federal retail sales tax administered primarily by existing state sales tax authorities.

The Fair Tax means no more audits, record-keeping, paying as many as 1.2 million paid tax preparers in the country as much as $346.51 billion in administrative costs to understand three million words of tax code – about 6,000 pages.

And, as for most of your long list of services that the imperial federal government mismanages, they should be left to competing service providers. People who are receiving benefits based on previous laws should continue to be provided what they contracted for and were promised. But, other than that, following the U.S. Constitution is the best course for our country.

**sawyerloggingon** · 04-29-12, 05:00 PM

No offense dan but what wack job left wing site did you get that list from? Seriously, I'd like to know, I want to read the rest of what they say.

**Moot** · 04-29-12, 05:37 PM

Not believing in taxes and paying them are two different things.

**Matt Foley** · 04-29-12, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by danarhea

Do not use Medicare.
Do not use Social Security
Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars.
Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
Do not use public restrooms.
Do not send your kids to public schools.
Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
Do not live in areas with clean air.
Do not drink clean water.
Do not visit National Parks.
Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
Do not eat or use FDA inspected food and medicines.
Do not bring your kids to public playgrounds.
Do not walk or run on sidewalks.
Do not use public recreational facilities such as basketball and tennis courts.
Do not seek shelter facilities or food in soup kitchens when you are homeless and hungry.
Do not apply for educational or job training assistance when you lose your job.
Do not apply for food stamps when you can’t feed your children.
Do not use the judiciary system for any reason.
Do not ask for an attorney when you are arrested and do not ask for one to be assigned to you by the court.
Do not apply for any Pell Grants.
Do not use cures that were discovered by labs using federal dollars.
Do not fly on federally regulated airplanes.
Do not use any product that can trace its development back to NASA.
Do not watch the weather provided by the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to severe weather warnings from the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to tsunami, hurricane, or earthquake alert systems.
Do not apply for federal housing.
Do not use the internet, which was developed by the military.
Do not swim in clean rivers.
Do not allow your child to eat school lunches or breakfasts.
Do not ask for FEMA assistance when everything you own gets wiped out by disaster.
Do not ask the military to defend your life and home in the event of a foreign invasion.
Do not use your cell phone or home telephone.
Do not buy firearms that wouldn’t have been developed without the support of the US Government and military. That includes most of them.
Do not eat USDA inspected produce and meat.
Do not apply for government grants to start your own business.
Do not apply to win a government contract.
Do not buy any vehicle that has been inspected by government safety agencies.
Do not buy any product that is protected from poisons, toxins, etc…by the Consumer Protection Agency.
Do not save your money in a bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not use Veterans benefits or military health care.
Do not use the G.I. Bill to go to college.
Do not apply for unemployment benefits.
Do not use any electricity from companies regulated by the Department of Energy.
Do not live in homes that are built to code.
Do not run for public office. Politicians are paid with taxpayer dollars.
Do not ask for help from the FBI, S.W.A.T, the bomb squad, Homeland Security, State troopers, etc…
Do not apply for any government job whatsoever as all state and federal employees are paid with tax dollars.
Do not use public libraries.
Do not use the US Postal Service.
Do not visit the National Archives.
Do not visit Presidential Libraries.
Do not use airports that are secured by the federal government.
Do not apply for loans from any bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not ask the government to help you clean up after a tornado.
Do not ask the Department of Agriculture to provide a subsidy to help you run your farm.
Do not take walks in National Forests.
Do not ask for taxpayer dollars for your oil company.
Do not ask the federal government to bail your company out during recessions.
Do not seek medical care from places that use federal dollars.
Do not use Medicaid.
Do not use WIC.
Do not use electricity generated by Hoover Dam.
Do not use electricity or any service provided by the Tennessee Valley Authority.
Do not ask the Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild levees when they break.
Do not let the Coast Guard save you from drowning when your boat capsizes at sea.
Do not ask the government to help evacuate you when all hell breaks loose in the country you are in.
Do not visit historic landmarks.
Do not visit fisheries.
Do not expect to see animals that are federally protected because of the Endangered Species List.
Do not expect plows to clear roads of snow and ice so your kids can go to school and so you can get to work.
Do not hunt or camp on federal land.
Do not work anywhere that has a safe workplace because of government regulations.
Do not use public transportation.
Do not drink water from public water fountains.
Do not whine when someone copies your work and sells it as their own. Government enforces copyright laws.
Do not expect to own your home, car, or boat. Government organizes and keeps all titles.
Do not expect convicted felons to remain off the streets.
Do not eat in restaurants that are regulated by food quality and safety standards.
Do not seek help from the US Embassy if you need assistance in a foreign nation.
Do not apply for a passport to travel outside of the United States.
Do not apply for a patent when you invent something.
Do not adopt a child through your local, state, or federal governments. 89.Do not use elevators that have been inspected by federal or state safety regulators.
Do not use any resource that was discovered by the USGS.
Do not ask for energy assistance from the government.
Do not move to any other developed nation, because the taxes are much higher.
Do not go to a beach that is kept clean by the state.
Do not use money printed by the US Treasury.
Do not complain when millions more illegal immigrants cross the border because there are no more border patrol agents.
Do not attend a state university.
Do not see any doctor that is licensed through the state.
Do not use any water from municipal water systems.
Do not complain when diseases and viruses, that were once fought around the globe by the US government and CDC, reach your house.
Do not work for any company that is required to pay its workers a livable wage, provide them sick days, vacation days, and benefits.
Do not expect to be able to vote on election days. Government provides voting booths, election day officials, and voting machines which are paid for with taxes.
Do not ride trains. The railroad was built with government financial assistance.

Those that benefit from this list, in far greater percentages, are not part of my group identity.

**Daktoria** · 04-29-12, 05:45 PM

....

Do we really have to go on about this?

People don't choose to be introduced into taxpaying society. You can't force someone to eat a slice of pie and pay for it.

Your culture is corrupted by public infrastructure. Does that mean the victims of corruption are prohibited from using it? No, they're VICTIMS.

Next up: If you're in a hostage situation, don't expect your captors to treat you respectfully.

Don't sue them for damages if they abuse you either.

**Mensch** · 04-29-12, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by danarhea

Do not use Medicare.
Do not use Social Security
Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars.
Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
Do not use public restrooms.
Do not send your kids to public schools.
Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
Do not live in areas with clean air.
Do not drink clean water.
Do not visit National Parks.
Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
Do not eat or use FDA inspected food and medicines.
Do not bring your kids to public playgrounds.
Do not walk or run on sidewalks.
Do not use public recreational facilities such as basketball and tennis courts.
Do not seek shelter facilities or food in soup kitchens when you are homeless and hungry.
Do not apply for educational or job training assistance when you lose your job.
Do not apply for food stamps when you can’t feed your children.
Do not use the judiciary system for any reason.
Do not ask for an attorney when you are arrested and do not ask for one to be assigned to you by the court.
Do not apply for any Pell Grants.
Do not use cures that were discovered by labs using federal dollars.
Do not fly on federally regulated airplanes.
Do not use any product that can trace its development back to NASA.
Do not watch the weather provided by the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to severe weather warnings from the National Weather Service.
Do not listen to tsunami, hurricane, or earthquake alert systems.
Do not apply for federal housing.
Do not use the internet, which was developed by the military.
Do not swim in clean rivers.
Do not allow your child to eat school lunches or breakfasts.
Do not ask for FEMA assistance when everything you own gets wiped out by disaster.
Do not ask the military to defend your life and home in the event of a foreign invasion.
Do not use your cell phone or home telephone.
Do not buy firearms that wouldn’t have been developed without the support of the US Government and military. That includes most of them.
Do not eat USDA inspected produce and meat.
Do not apply for government grants to start your own business.
Do not apply to win a government contract.
Do not buy any vehicle that has been inspected by government safety agencies.
Do not buy any product that is protected from poisons, toxins, etc…by the Consumer Protection Agency.
Do not save your money in a bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not use Veterans benefits or military health care.
Do not use the G.I. Bill to go to college.
Do not apply for unemployment benefits.
Do not use any electricity from companies regulated by the Department of Energy.
Do not live in homes that are built to code.
Do not run for public office. Politicians are paid with taxpayer dollars.
Do not ask for help from the FBI, S.W.A.T, the bomb squad, Homeland Security, State troopers, etc…
Do not apply for any government job whatsoever as all state and federal employees are paid with tax dollars.
Do not use public libraries.
Do not use the US Postal Service.
Do not visit the National Archives.
Do not visit Presidential Libraries.
Do not use airports that are secured by the federal government.
Do not apply for loans from any bank that is FDIC insured.
Do not ask the government to help you clean up after a tornado.
Do not ask the Department of Agriculture to provide a subsidy to help you run your farm.
Do not take walks in National Forests.
Do not ask for taxpayer dollars for your oil company.
Do not ask the federal government to bail your company out during recessions.
Do not seek medical care from places that use federal dollars.
Do not use Medicaid.
Do not use WIC.
Do not use electricity generated by Hoover Dam.
Do not use electricity or any service provided by the Tennessee Valley Authority.
Do not ask the Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild levees when they break.
Do not let the Coast Guard save you from drowning when your boat capsizes at sea.
Do not ask the government to help evacuate you when all hell breaks loose in the country you are in.
Do not visit historic landmarks.
Do not visit fisheries.
Do not expect to see animals that are federally protected because of the Endangered Species List.
Do not expect plows to clear roads of snow and ice so your kids can go to school and so you can get to work.
Do not hunt or camp on federal land.
Do not work anywhere that has a safe workplace because of government regulations.
Do not use public transportation.
Do not drink water from public water fountains.
Do not whine when someone copies your work and sells it as their own. Government enforces copyright laws.
Do not expect to own your home, car, or boat. Government organizes and keeps all titles.
Do not expect convicted felons to remain off the streets.
Do not eat in restaurants that are regulated by food quality and safety standards.
Do not seek help from the US Embassy if you need assistance in a foreign nation.
Do not apply for a passport to travel outside of the United States.
Do not apply for a patent when you invent something.
Do not adopt a child through your local, state, or federal governments. 89.Do not use elevators that have been inspected by federal or state safety regulators.
Do not use any resource that was discovered by the USGS.
Do not ask for energy assistance from the government.
Do not move to any other developed nation, because the taxes are much higher.
Do not go to a beach that is kept clean by the state.
Do not use money printed by the US Treasury.
Do not complain when millions more illegal immigrants cross the border because there are no more border patrol agents.
Do not attend a state university.
Do not see any doctor that is licensed through the state.
Do not use any water from municipal water systems.
Do not complain when diseases and viruses, that were once fought around the globe by the US government and CDC, reach your house.
Do not work for any company that is required to pay its workers a livable wage, provide them sick days, vacation days, and benefits.
Do not expect to be able to vote on election days. Government provides voting booths, election day officials, and voting machines which are paid for with taxes.
Do not ride trains. The railroad was built with government financial assistance.

May I ask, if I don't use the service, will I still be forced to pay for it?

As a libertarian, I don't see any hypocrisy in accepting SS checks after spending your entire life paying the same taxes as everyone else. The problem is not the recipients, but the legislators.

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