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Is This Not The Most Idiotic Chain E-Mail Ever

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My very conservative Grandpa sent me this and i was just in shock that people actually think this way.... All i could do was this: :doh

Anyways does anyone here actually believe this crap? What are your thoughts?

Here is the email:

"If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants meat products banned.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he tries to better his situation.
A liberal wants to know who is going to fix it for him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals want those they don't like to be silenced.
If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church.
If a liberal is a nonbeliever he wants any mention of religion silenced, unless, of course, the religion is from another culture.
If a conservative needs health care he shops for it, or looks for a job that will provide it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us provide for it.
A conservative will read this and will forward it, so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will read this and delete it, because he's offended."



 
Sounds about right to me, but then again I live in El paso where this really is true
 
Yes, some people actually think like this. I used to get emails like this from family members all the time, really annoying, albeit good for a laugh.
 
One of our members once posted this a long time ago, thinking it was accurate. Just shows how ridiculous his mindset was and how little he understood about liberalism.
 
My very conservative Grandpa sent me this and i was just in shock that people actually think this way.... All i could do was this: :doh

Anyways does anyone here actually believe this crap? What are your thoughts?

Here is the email:

"If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants meat products banned.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he tries to better his situation.
A liberal wants to know who is going to fix it for him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals want those they don't like to be silenced.
If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church.
If a liberal is a nonbeliever he wants any mention of religion silenced, unless, of course, the religion is from another culture.
If a conservative needs health care he shops for it, or looks for a job that will provide it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us provide for it.
A conservative will read this and will forward it, so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will read this and delete it, because he's offended."




I don't voluntarily associate with people that hyper-partisan and disrespectfully - not to mention willfully uneducated about the subject they're making sweeping statements about. The only people I know who think like that are one or two people in my family whose opinions, as you can imagine, I don't give much weight.

That said... I'm assuming your grandfather is well into old age, and after a certain point there's just no sense in holding it against someone when they have backwards or disrespectful views. They're too old to change it. My grandmother has some pretty backwards beliefs herself, but she's 85 and she is what she is at this point. I just let it be.
 
My very conservative Grandpa sent me this and i was just in shock that people actually think this way.... All i could do was this: :doh

Anyways does anyone here actually believe this crap? What are your thoughts?

Here is the email:

"If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants meat products banned.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he tries to better his situation.
A liberal wants to know who is going to fix it for him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals want those they don't like to be silenced.
If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church.
If a liberal is a nonbeliever he wants any mention of religion silenced, unless, of course, the religion is from another culture.
If a conservative needs health care he shops for it, or looks for a job that will provide it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us provide for it.
A conservative will read this and will forward it, so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will read this and delete it, because he's offended."




Whoever originated this piece did a pretty good job in constructing it to make conservatives come out the better because all of the comparisons, when read by conservatives, will hit on their confirmation bias. He didn't include anything like:

"If a conservative objects to sexual immorality they try to legislate it away. A liberal who objects to sexual immorality will let other people lead their lives."

So everything that could hit conservatives negatively is not mentioned.

As for the actual content, it's pretty accurate, if we recognize that we're looking at patterns and not the beliefs of every liberal and every conservative. Also there is enough justification to make the claims he does but the claims could be twisted to provide another, equally valid, scenario. Take this scenario as an example:


If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals want those they don't like to be silenced.​


This could be speaking to the liberal movement pushing for The Fairness Doctrine or it could be the predominantly liberal tactic seen on university campuses and elsewhere which involves rushing the stage or making a commotion and preventing invited speakers from having their say. See Ann Coulter speeches, Jim Gilchrist, Benjamin Netanyahu. All that is true. What liberals will see though is their version of the truth, which looks like this:


If a conservative doesn't like a TV show host with too much sexual content on at prime time, he wants it taken off the air.
Liberals switch channels.​


For those liberals who think that these observations are detached from reality, no they're not, this is how you come across. There is a strong element of truth in most of the observations, though things like vegetarianism is pushing the envelope (10% liberals, 3% conservative - so overlap to political ideology is pretty damn weak.) And of course the reverse process, how liberals see conservatives, could also be constructed and be mostly accurate but also not be a reflection of how conservatives see themselves.
 
Argh, this again……….

It's stupid, actually both are, but not even the two of them combined stink like the "Blacks Don't read" chain letter.

I'm really sick of republicans blindly forwarding chain letters and democrats always being the only ones to gripe about it.

There's tons of bollox on both sides especially in the left and the far-right.

Conservative VS. Liberal

Chain: If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test! Pretty much says it all for me.

Miss Capri: *Shrugs*

Chain: - If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
- If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

Miss Capri: That's because anti-gun activism is part of the liberal movement.

Chain: - If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
- If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

Miss Capri: Not necessarily, though most likely. It all depends on why one is a vegetarian. If it's strictly because one can't handle meat or dislikes the taste, one can still be a conservative or a liberal. If one is a vegan because of a belief that it is more ethical, that is most commonly found among the liberal side of the fence, but I am pretty sure there are conservative animal rights extremists too.

*cut a bit*

Chain: - If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
- Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

Miss Capri: Right...Conservatives just flood the net with chain letters when they don't like something. The latest thing being Obama.

Chain: - If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
- A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
(Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)

Miss Capri: And some conservatives are so convinced that absolutely everybody is out to kill their religion, and determined to stick religion into places where it doesn't belong, and OMG, can't stand anything they call "foreign!" Whine, whine, whine, forward, forward, forward!

*snip*

Chain: - If a conservative reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.

Miss Capri: If he is far-right, of course he would, because he's so irritatingly addicted to chain letters already and doesn't realize or care that he's being manipulated into spreading something viral and making the chain problem on the net worse.

Chain: - A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended .

Miss Capri: Wrong. A liberal will post it on Huffington Post, Democratic Underground and DailyKos etc. plus various blogs and web forums, and do a super lame combo laugh&rant, lulling at conservative chain letter addiction, and rant about how conservatives are the most racist, hateful, stupid people to ever walk the earth.

A sensible person will smash it because she's annoyed!

Aaraujo at Dailykos started their own left-wing chain letter to counter the right-wing one that goes on and on about republicans VS. democrats. Not only did they start their own chain letter and posted it, but they also reposted that right-wing chain letter as well. They also admitted to forwarding...
Daily Kos: Sick of Republican Forwarded Viral E-Mails (UPDATE: A Response)

It has also been seen here.
http://www.progressivedelmarva.com/2010/07/equal-opportunity-political-email.html

Chain: If a Democrat hears about a crime in his neighborhood, he calls the cops, and then finds out if his local police department is adequately funded.
If a Republican hears about a crime in his neighborhood, he buys a gun and gets shot by his wife when he's drunk. Unless his kid used it to shoot the neighbor kid first.

Miss Capri: Talk about delusional and sick wishful fantasies. It would seem that every time the word "REPUBLICAN" is displayed, wires in the brain of such left-wing chain letter creators, causes them to see "REDNECK" instead. You might as well admit it, you'd like it if some republican's kid got shot by another republican's kid and then he got shot while drunk by his drunken wife, because that would get rid of some of your opposition and make a great platform for your paranoid extreme anti-gun ownership agenda. Oh, and it would help just a little bit to relieve what is according to the green zealots, the human overpopulation problem!

Chain: If a Democrat has a religion, he practices it at home and at church.
If a Republican has a religion, everyone must practice it in all public places, schools and courthouses.

Miss Capri: That's only if you believe the same chain letters your far-right enemies do, and you assume everyone who doesn't share your own beliefs is a far-right wingnut. You should try going to places in other parts of the world such as the Middle East where some countries actually make some religion into law. Then you might realize how wrong you are. There's religious paranoia on both sides here and you're as annoying as your right-wing chain counterparts. God isn't going to die either way.

Chain: If a Democrat sees his hard-working neighbor out of a job, he wonders if any of the existing economic policies cost him his job, how this can be corrected, and how society can help him until he gets back to work.
If a Republican sees his hard-working neighbor out of a job, he assumes the guy is lazy or being punished by God.

Miss Capri: Only if you believe all the far-right chain letters and those who agree with them as being a fair representation of everyone to the right of left. This is grossly untrue...

Chain: If a Democrat doesn't like a talk show host, he changes stations...and finds that they are all Republicans even though half or more Americans are Democrats.
If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he calls him a terrorist-loving, America-hating traitor who should be shot (or maybe that was just Rush Limbaugh).

Miss Capri: Oh, so you admit to watching Rush Limbaugh. Actually, I dislike talkshows in general along with reality TV. If you think most talkshow hosts or the media is biased and opposes you, you must be watching TV at all the wrong times or else your beliefs are so extremely leftist that nothing short of stamping out all other viewpoints is good enough for you.

Chain: If a Democrat has good health insurance, he wonders if others have it too and how he can help them get it.
If a Republican has good health insurance, he doesn't give a crap if other people die in the streets like unwanted dogs.

Miss Capri: You are so off your rocker that you've just revealed more about yourself and your own hateful, sick fantasies than you have about any republican. The fact you can even come up with that lot of kruft in the first place shows you to not care if some republican gets shot in the street like an unwanted dog, by someone from ALF. For that matter, your assuming all unwanted dogs get shot in the street is stupid as well. You'd like that, wouldn't you? Especially if it was a stray dog shot by a centrist or right-winger. Because then you would use that as an excuse to beat your chest and howl "ANIMAL ABUSE!" And this after the dog got shot after nearly killing somebody's kid, which you would surely use as a platform for your speuter and ban all large-breed dogs because everyone who owns them are dogfighters to you and all large dogs are vicious and should be banned if you believe all that animal rights/welfare fear-mongering.

Chain: If a Democrat hears a good idea like "Love your neighbor as yourself," they try to live by it.

Miss Capri: If you are any example of that, let me put it this way. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Your stupid chain letter reveals you to have the opposite attitude!

Chain: If a Republican hears a good idea like that, they make a long list of exceptions to the rule, to include women, minorities, immigrants, gays....

Miss Capri: Oh, right, the democrats just make their own list of exceptions, notably republicans, but really it's anyone who doesn't agree with their idiologies. This would also include anyone who doesn't support Obama's politics, even if for their own good reason, anybody who doesn't subscribe to the green movements, anybody the democrat willingly believes is or could be guilty of animal abuse, no matter how monstrous of a lie that is and which malicious gossip rumor-mill it comes from, anyone who doesn't absolutely hate Palin or Limbaugh or Hannity or Beck with an all-consuming burning passion, anyone who points out that the further left you go is closer to communism, anybody who doesn't love Michael Moore, or that cyber-pit of hate known as Daily Kos.

Chain: Lastly, if a Democrat gets an un-sourced email, he wonders if it was concocted by some big DC-based corporate public relations lobbying firm who knows just how to push Republicans’ buttons.

Miss Capri: Oh really? I would've thought they were the ones to originate it in order to push republicans' buttons and get a big lulz.

Chain: If a Republican gets an un-sourced email, he forwards it without thought because it pushed all his buttons.

Miss Capri: That one is sad, but mostly true.

Chain: And just to be a devil, I'll copy and paste their e-mail addresses onto MoveOn and Code Pink websites for e-mail updates.

Miss Capri: Yeah, that's the real way to demonstrate a peace-loving "Love your neighbor" attitude, right... How mature... The republicans just forward chain letters without thinking. You do it out of revenge. So tell me again which motive is worse.

The progressive site poster added this to the chain letter.

Chain: Send it to your friends, and I'll let you know how long it takes to eventually get back to me. Until then, I'll just keep reading the ones that tell me how I'm a Communist Nazi baby killer who hates Jesus. And maybe they'll have lots of American Flag animated gifs at the bottom!

Miss Capri: Why would I do something so idiotic? And remember, you brought up the word "nazi" here...

But thank you, for demonstrating yet again and so well that democrats can be just as asinine in their own chain letters as unthinking republicans.

http://cbcf.groupsite.com/post/why-chain-letters-are-so-bad
 
Exactly, extreme partisanship is full of bias, and these virals aren't helping, they're just causing more problems.
 
Most sane people recognize things like this are exaggerations. But it reflects not only an exaggerated opinion by obviously a conservative but also strains of truth about over-zealous liberals on a lot of issues. I see no reason not to point that out and make fun of it. You say you are shocked that some people actually think this way. Why?
 
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