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proof that the tea party is racist

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haymarket said:
that is the interpretation of somebody trying really hard to justify a public admission being a racist. The obvious question is WHY? Why go out of your way to defend over and over and over again a man admitting to being a racist?

If somebody wore a T shirt that proudly said I BEAT MY WIFE, I would not make post after post trying to pretend the couple enjoyed checkers and he was better at it. But then, I do not have a hidden personal agenda.
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smart people who understand that the left often slanders the tea party with bogus and fraudulent charges of racism realize that the man is mocking people who make such idiotic charges and those who don't get the fact that racism has very little, if anything, to do with the dislike of Obama policies and the white guilt of some who support him
 
TurtleDude said:
smart people who understand that the left often slanders the tea party with bogus and fraudulent charges of racism realize that the man is mocking people who make such idiotic charges and those who don't get the fact that racism has very little, if anything, to do with the dislike of Obama policies and the white guilt of some who support him
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He could very well be doing this, but it's not the simple, most obvious answer.
 
Your Star said:
He could very well be doing this, but it's not the simple, most obvious answer.
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in today's political environment it is to those who understand that environment. and just because its not simple to some does not establish any sort of racism on his part. It would be like saying that the simplest move wins chess matches.
 
TurtleDude said:
in today's political environment it is to those who understand that environment. and just because its not simple to some does not establish any sort of racism on his part. It would be like saying that the simplest move wins chess matches.
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No, it's not. The simplest answer is a racist wasted money on t-shirts the majority of people won't want to buy. Like I said, he may be doing that, but don't assume it's obvious that your theory is correct.
 
Your Star said:
No, it's not. The simplest answer is a racist wasted money on t-shirts the majority of people won't want to buy. Like I said, he may be doing that, but don't assume it's obvious that your theory is correct.
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Actually we don't know what his motivation is but we do know that the obvious reason why these t-shirts sell is not because it appeals to racists but because it mocks the ninnies who call the TP movement racist
 
TurtleDude said:
Actually we don't know what his motivation is but we do know that the obvious reason why these t-shirts sell is not because it appeals to racists but because it mocks the ninnies who call the TP movement racist
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We don't know, but I'm assuming the obvious, a racist made these t-shirts. Some people may interpret those shirts the way you do, but it's not the obvious answer.
 
Your Star said:
He could very well be doing this, but it's not the simple, most obvious answer.
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You honestly think the most obvious answer is that its not meant to parody the claims of racism but to actually proudly proclaim oneself to be racist?

I know you said the "most obvious" is that he wasted money on stupid shirts, but that's no in any way addressing the question regarding whether or not he's actually racist nor addressing the obvious implications you make through your numerous responses in this thread to other peoples comments.

How about beating about the bush?
 
Your Star said:
We don't know, but I'm assuming the obvious, a racist made these t-shirts. Some people may interpret those shirts the way you do, but it's not the obvious answer.
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You are not assuming the obvious, you are assuming what you want to be true.
 
That some people think that is a personal admission of racism is absolutely hysterical. The shirt wins, it's smarter.
 
Zyphlin said:
You honestly think the most obvious answer is that its not meant to parody the claims of racism but to actually proudly proclaim oneself to be racist?

I know you said the "most obvious" is that he wasted money on stupid shirts, but that's no in any way addressing the question regarding whether or not he's actually racist nor addressing the obvious implications you make through your numerous responses in this thread to other peoples comments.

How about beating about the bush?
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Yes, because it's not really tongue in cheek, if it is sarcasm, it's bad sarcasm. And I believe someone is stupid enough to go out and make those shirts.
 
Your Star said:
We don't know, but I'm assuming the obvious, a racist made these t-shirts. Some people may interpret those shirts the way you do, but it's not the obvious answer.
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Well, seems I should've read on you did stop beating around the bush.

Please demonstrate how its more obvious that someone racist made a shirt that publicly proclaims something that would lead them to be treated harshly and poorly and generally viewed in a negative light than someone made a shirt as a sarcastic joke.

An actual proclomation of racism isn't a good seller, as evident by the large amount of the potential population that hold racist views not proudly proclaiming "i'm a racist" on a normal basis and the general attitude of society towards individuals who make themselves evident as obvious racists. However, parody and satire are generally good sellers and are evidenced by numerous sarcastic, self deprecating, non-serious shirts that are on the market.

Additionally, considering the man has a staple of the "satircal" shirt community with the "infedel" shirts in that picture with him it FURTHER makes it absolutely illogical and ridiculous to assume that the most "obvious" answer is that the man is ACTUALLY a racist and not attempting to capitalize on satire.

No, its only "obvious" to those who ignore occam's razor and have the misguided and idiotic notion that Tea party = racist.
 
I can't believe someone is something enough to think it's a declaration of racism. Holy crap! That shirt is full of trolly goodness.

:scared: Evidence! The tea-party is being openly racist!!




Too good.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Well, seems I should've read on you did stop beating around the bush.

Please demonstrate how its more obvious that someone racist made a shirt that publicly proclaims something that would lead them to be treated harshly and poorly and generally viewed in a negative light than someone made a shirt as a sarcastic joke.

An actual proclomation of racism isn't a good seller, as evident by the large amount of the potential population that hold racist views not proudly proclaiming "i'm a racist" on a normal basis and the general attitude of society towards individuals who make themselves evident as obvious racists. However, parody and satire are generally good sellers and are evidenced by numerous sarcastic, self deprecating, non-serious shirts that are on the market.

Additionally, considering the man has a staple of the "satircal" shirt community with the "infedel" shirts in that picture with him it FURTHER makes it absolutely illogical and ridiculous to assume that the most "obvious" answer is that the man is ACTUALLY a racist and not attempting to capitalize on satire.

No, its only "obvious" to those who ignore occam's razor and have the misguided and idiotic notion that Tea party = racist.
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Maybe it's because I live in the south, and I've literally had conversations with people who've said basically the same thing, and no they weren't being sarcastic. I believe some people are stupid enough to do this. It is the most obvious answer to me, based on the pic.
 
Your Star said:
Maybe it's because I live in the south, and I've literally had conversations with people who've said basically the same thing, and no they weren't being sarcastic. I believe some people are stupid enough to do this. It is the most obvious answer to me, based on the pic.
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I also live in the south. I do know racists or people who hold racist views. The vast, VAST majority of them don't go around proudly proclaiming "I'm racist". Considering there's other shirts in the picture that the man is selling that are obvious satire, I can not fathom how the "obvious" answer is that this shirt somehow is actually completley serious.

I fully agree with KSU. This guy is someone who politically you dislike in a group you politically dislike with an obvious way for you to view him negatively so the "obvious" answer to you is OMG it must be racist.

Your only explanation for it is that apparently there are stupid people...and you think the shirt is stupid...therefore its "obvious" it must be a stupid person who made the stupid shirt so it must be racist.

Business wise, it makes little sense to market such a thing. Atmosphere wise, it would run counter to the style of shirt he also has for sale. Since we know nothing about the man's views OTHER than he's part of the tea party, we have no basis to believe that he's a racist. Yet despite all of that...because you think its a stupid shirt then the obvious answer is it must be racist and a stupid person made it so they must be racist.
 
How about instead, it reads: "YUP, I'm a typical white person..."

Is that too far removed, or does the hint ruin it?
 
Your Star said:
I don't want to believe it, I just believe it.
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As was postulated by some, they made the shirt as a sarcastic reply to the Obama supporters.
 
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TurtleDude said:
maybe that is true with a few. But the obvious intent of having the tea party symbol (the don't tread on me snake that dates to the revolution) with that comment is to lampoon the ninnies who are quick to label as racist those who oppose Obama
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Sure, I see this point.

It does bother me that they try to wrap themselves in the image of true revolutionaries whose revolution was just and epic in nature. But that has nothing to do with racism.
 
ksu_aviator said:


As was postulated by some, they made the shirt as a sarcastic reply to the Obama supporters.
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Well I stand corrected :lol:

I still don't believe it was the obvious answer, but it was the answer. It's also pretty bad sarcasm IMO.
 
samsmart said:
I don't even bother with the debate about whether tea partiers are racist or not. The reason why is because it ignores the politics of tea partiers, and that's a good enough reason all on it's own on why the Tea Party should be opposed.
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So you like unaccountable representatives, giant bloated government, and high taxes?
 
TurtleDude said:
Sheep tend to flock to the party and philosophy of collectivism and the ones that demands individual rights and property remain subservient to the "greater good" and the "general welfare". Hint-that's not the GOP or Fox news
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Really?

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ReverendHellh0und said:
So you like unaccountable representatives, giant bloated government, and high taxes?
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Is the tea party supporting term limits?

Does the tea party support eliminating DHS?
 
Thorgasm said:
Is the tea party supporting term limits?

Does the tea party support eliminating DHS?
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Smaller government
More accountable reps
Lower taxes.


I would support term limits for sure, I would also support revamping the DHS along with other government agencies.

I would also support across the board cuts, withdrawal from the three wars we no longer need to be fighting, etc. etc.
 
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