Now isn't that special? Tell that to the 15 plus million Americans unemployed and to all taxpayers that will have to pay for the 4 trillion Obama has added to the debt/
Why did the republicans vote against the jobs bill then?
The record that matters come from BLS.gov, BEA.gov, and the U.S. Treasury
Then run along now, go find the data and quote it...
Intelligence gathered over a six year span of time and a mistake made by Osama's courier are the factors leading to his death. Obama continued along a path laid down by investigators under Bush's presidency. The intelligence communities, seals, and both presidents are responsible for Osama.
Maybe you'd like it worded this way instead...
bush FAILED to get Osama.
True believers when confronted with reality will often become dismissive in nature, this is done to avoid the reality of a current situation. Self-righteousness is a loud din raised to drown the voice of guilt within us.
Sounds very much like the vast majority of right wingers I've run into here on the internets.
Yes, Obama went in with a rifle and shot Osama in the eye. You're right. It was all Obama. His plans, his ideas, his suggestions, his investigation, his spy work, his intelligence that he gathered. All him. Yup.
Obama authorized the mission, while bush forgot all about osama and attacked Iraq based on lies...
FYI, Obama's mortgage plans to help "save" homeowners and prevent defaults? Looks like it might have worn off:
Mortgage Defaults
remind me, who was it that caused the problem in the first place? OHHHH, that's right, the republicans.
And don't think for a second that I support the government ownership of private business in any scenario. Just like I don't support subsidies.
GLORY BE!! ANOTHER RIGHT WINGER HAS SEEEEEEN THE LIGHT!!!
can I now put you down as being against subsidizing the oil companies?
but the neocons believe we should have allowed the firm to die off, together with its many, many jobs, its dealerships, the employees of those dealerships, and its array of suppliers and their employees
damn inappropriate government intervention!
republicans don't care about workers, they only cater to the whims of the rich and powerful.
Corporate welfare in the liberal world is ok when it bails out unions
Unions are comprised of workers... why do you republicans hate the working class?
Had Palin been President do you think she would have let gone under? And what do you think would be the repercissions ?
yep... like all the other republicans, they love big business, but hate the workers.
..so you continue to do it? Why would you even bother posting anything at all if it doesn't contribute to the topic at hand, or some derivation there of? You want things to be your way? Think your way is the best way? Then talk about it instead of just insulting everything in opposition to you or your ideology. You're wasting space in the thread by doing what you're doing.
and your reason for continuing is??
Actually many millions saw him watching it go down on TV.
You've been misinformed.
It was on TV? really... what channel? do you think we can we find it on
On Demand?
they do
but not also result in the loss of many American manufacturing jobs
and the dealerships
and the employees of the dealerships
and the supplier
and the employees of the suppliers
more workers... they just don't care about any of them losing their jobs, republicans only care about the uber rich.
all worth it, just collateral damage, as long as we can get rid of the damn unions, it is all good, who cares if the economy tanked even further? as long as the unions were gone, why should we care? a democrat is president...who cares if more people than actually worked at the auto companies lost there jobs? who cares if the local economy of areas around these auto plants took a huge hit? we could get rid of the unions, that is all that matters, right?.....at least this seems to be the opinion of many conservatives here.
Sadly, you are correct, republicans love helping the rich even those republicans that don't qualify as being rich...
Right, we need the liberals like you to keep them dependent and keep them from raising themselves up to a better class. We all know how great unions are at gaining and keeping power. Union greed is never discussed yet union membership keeps dropping because of that greed. Union management has proven to be a bunch of thugs who are there simply to maintain union power. The hell with the consumer and the U.S. Economy.
Proof... cmon Con, surely you have a link or two sequestered somewhere to provide that will substantiate your claims...
If a Republican was President that would not affect the economy at all because the economic fairy godmother would step in.
just like the FGM did when bush was presidente...
We don't know what a Republican would do today but Obama won because he told the people what he would do and failed miserably. His results speak for themselves, results that you continue to ignore.
PROOF!!! Got any??? without proof you are just offering us your opinions... So run along now, you have lots of articles and links to find to substantiate your claims of this or that...
my unions membership is up, and i suspect as the economy recovers, and the way the repubs have been going after unions lately, that number of union members will start to rise, as more and more people come to the realization that republicans don't have the average working man and woman's interest at heart.
Quite a few of them showed up in Wisconsin, as I recall.
The only way there would be a loss of jobs is if people stopped buying vehicles. Many companies, automobile and otherwise, have gone out of business in the past and that did not mean that people had to walk to work. Other successful companies simply took their place and increased their number of workers.
There will be other cars manufactured, other dealerships, other suppliers, etc. Unless there are no cars being made the public will not be effected. Having governments bail out unsuccessful businesses can have a far larger and harsher effect.
Preserving jobs or not preserving jobs... hmmm, what a dilemma. Obviously as witnessed by posts from these republicans, the republicans don't care about preserving jobs. Doesn't matter to them, doesn't affect them.
That's just one of the reasons why Barrack Obama is so frequently compared to Jimmy Carter.
by whom? someone on the fox noise machine?
you don't understand the lead time required in the auto industry to bid on new work, to get molds, and dies, to a new manufacturer, and have that manufacturer actually producing usable parts...i work for a parts supplier, i also served as chairperson for my uaw local in my facility, and had talks with management when the economy was nosediving, they were very worried bout gm closing up shop, closing down lines, as it would have effectively killed 15-30% of our business at the time, and they were worried that they would have to also start with layoffs ....a drawn out bankruptcy would have seriously crimped the cash flow of my company, as they would not be getting paid for work already shipped out, and when the courts decided on a payment plan for creditors, we probably would have only gotten pennies on the dollar...all of this would have led to 30-50% of the workforce being forced into layoffs, and the possibility of a few of our sister plants being closed. to just sit back and say 'we should have let them fail' and that 'others would take their place', i have a problem with, as few would have been able to get banks lined up, and fewer would have wanted to step in and buy facilities with the economy in the state it was in....alot of people would have suffered for a long, long , long, time, many small business would have went belly up, and we would still be a long way off from an economic recovery.
Which is exactly what the republicans wanted to have happen... destroy the economy who cares who gets hurt in the demise, it won't be the rich.
indeed we are part of the working class....we have jobs we go to, we have bills we pay, houses we pay a mortgage on, and other local businesses that depend on us having jobs.
Sadly, the rich and their minions don't seem to realize this...
