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Old 02-17-09, 04:48 PM   #521
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So what America really owes isn't commonly shielded from public? They definitely don't broadcast it everywhere.
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Old 02-17-09, 04:50 PM   #522
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Two years following 1929. Give it another year...

There are several characteristics that differ. The general makeup of the economy (mass production vs service based), the size of the Fed's balance sheet, and efficiency in determining information in financial markets (lack of computers and such) paves a different path of depression.
Again, you saying that things are worse does not make things worse. You have to understand that I'm not going to take your word for it.
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Wow. I think this bottle of water sitting on my desk has more intelligence than you.
Yep, you're a joke. I ask a simple question; rather than answer, you respond with petty insults once again.
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Old 02-17-09, 04:56 PM   #524
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Yep, you're a joke. I ask a simple question; rather than answer, you respond with petty insults once again.
The whole thing is that I DID ANSWER.

I just didn't take a position on a topic that you want to argue about because it is wholly irrelevant to the topics being discussed.

I swear to God, it's the libertarian version of Jfuh.
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Again, you saying that things are worse does not make things worse. You have to understand that I'm not going to take your word for it.
I am not expecting you too. Follow the money; look at bank reserves, treasuries, junk bond markets etc.... Regardless of whether you take my word or not, my intent is not to convince...
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Old 02-17-09, 05:06 PM   #526
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I am not expecting you too. Follow the money; look at bank reserves, treasuries, junk bond markets etc.... Regardless of whether you take my word or not, my intent is not to convince...
Simply saying "follow the money, etc." does nothing to support your claims. You need to

1) Show what has happened with those reserves/treasuries/markets
2) Show what that has historically meant
3) Show how what's happening now in those areas means that the economy at large will be worse than ever
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Simply saying "follow the money, etc." does nothing to support your claims. You need to

1) Show what has happened with those reserves/treasuries/markets
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3) Show how what's happening now in those areas means that the economy at large will be worse than ever
I found this article and it can't be good for us.

China is Considering Ways to Diversify Out of the Dollar
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People who compare this with the great depression seem to forget that along with a stock market crash, we had severe drought for years in the midwest that resulted in food shortages for the nation.
Plus the run on the banks.
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Plus the run on the banks.
I can see people doing irrational things when they are starving.
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Old 02-17-09, 05:28 PM   #530
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I found this article and it can't be good for us.

China is Considering Ways to Diversify Out of the Dollar
1) China has been thinking about this for years, it's nothing new.
2) China actually owns far less of our debt than is popularly believed: a little over 6%.
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