Paul in 2012?

jallman · 02-13-09, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EgoffTib

I really hope this was a feeble attempt at humor.

Oh oh...let me rephrase it in libertarian-speak.

It was a +1 joke of hilarity and I got a natural 20 delivering it.

EgoffTib · 02-13-09, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

Oh oh...let me rephrase it in libertarian-speak.

It was a +1 joke of hilarity and I got a natural 20 delivering it.

jallman · 02-13-09, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EgoffTib

Only if you are a humorless libertarian.

EgoffTib · 02-13-09, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

Only if you are a humorless libertarian.

I am a pretty good humored individual, actually.

jallman · 02-13-09, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EgoffTib

I am a pretty good humored individual, actually.

Actually, you are.

This all just good fun. Don't take any offense.

EgoffTib · 02-13-09, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

Actually, you are.

This all just good fun. Don't take any offense.

Haha of course it is. I just sometimes like to give you a hard time...

Zyphlin · 02-13-09, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by new coup for you

having quite some experience with people who play role playing games, I assert that they tend to be socialists

Or at least liberal. I believe I'm an oddity, but then again I'm an oddity of that type in many ways.

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Originally Posted by jallman

I didn't say the libertarians were playing role playing games. I just said they looked and acted like the type.

You know, 35 year old virgins with beer guts and fat chicks who think it's cool to wear a cape and talk about how she is a dominatrix in the most inappropriate settings.

. . .

God I'm glad I'm not a stereotypical Paul supporter or gamer.

Stereotypical ones of both drive me crazy too.

Wessexman · 02-13-09, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldenboy219

I try to stay away from those types. Next thing they will do is pull out some Webber, and help Protestants feel bad

....... Unintentionally.

What's wrong with Weber?

Next you'll be telling me Durkheim is not cool.

Wessexman · 02-13-09, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RightinNYC

Again, nothing in those broad ideas as you characterize them are bad. It's the implementation and method which concern me.

1) His desire to withdraw from the UN/NATO/etc. is a bad idea.
2) His proposal to amend the 14th Amendment to get rid of birthright citizenship is a bad idea.
3) His opposition to NAFTA/CAFTA is a bad idea.
4) His proposal to eliminate the income tax is a horrible idea.
5) His proposals to eliminate departments like HHS, DHS, and FEMA are horrible ideas.
6) The whole "survival report" and "investment report" thing sketches me out.
7) I don't for one second buy his whole excuse of "oh someone else was publishing my newsletter full of racist ****, I had no idea!"

There's plenty more, but I think that's enough for now.

I'm not going to pretend that his platform is either credible or logical.

Personally I think it is not so much the platform as the speed. A lot of it is okay if he aimed to do it over the long term. If he planned to reduce income taxes and instil an ideology among many that would see them even more greatly reduced or removed ina generation or two that would be a good idea probably but trying to remove income taxes even in two terms is silly.

Btw I'd run from NAFTA as fast as I could. Look what happened to the EEC.

Harry Guerrilla · 02-14-09, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RightinNYC

I'm assuming your first claim is using fuzzy math, your second claim is a gross simplification of Kelo, and your third claim is just factually inaccurate.

My first claim isn't fuzzy math I'll lay it out for you though.

I've seen several figures ranging from 49 trillion to this one that say s 56 trillion.
I initially went with the last figure and added in the 1st tarp, the stimulus package, and the second tarp. It roughly comes out to 53 trillion.

Here is what the Real national debt figure is from the is group:
56.4 trillion

The Real National Debt

For the Kelo case isn't that what it surmised?
The government can condemn your property and sell it to someone else that pays more taxes. I'm sure there are some finer points but what else would make it matter more?

I ****ed up on the last one I'll admit that. Wouldn't you agree though that those three programs are slowly but surely eating away at our yearly national budget?

Enough to cause serious problems.

My point was that why is it good for anyone to continue to vote one of the same two parties back into office? What good can come of it?

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