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Old 12-11-08, 10:44 AM   #11
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Re: Will Palin's Words Come Back To Haunt Her?

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Talking up small towns can be done in a way that is not devisive. "Real America" is devisive. It's akin to religions that claim to be the "one true religion". By default, that makes others inferior. She could talk up their values all day long and it would be fine. By using the word "real" it is unmistakeable that she was drawing a line that was previously set up for her by the sycophantic pundits that have chortled this devisive garbage for years on end. It wasn't the platitudes that got her in trouble. It was the modifier.



did you find "bitter americans" devisive?
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Old 12-11-08, 11:14 AM   #12
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Talking up small towns can be done in a way that is not devisive. "Real America" is devisive. It's akin to religions that claim to be the "one true religion". By default, that makes others inferior. She could talk up their values all day long and it would be fine. By using the word "real" it is unmistakeable that she was drawing a line that was previously set up for her by the sycophantic pundits that have chortled this devisive garbage for years on end. It wasn't the platitudes that got her in trouble. It was the modifier.
And that's fine if that's your opinion of it.

I still think it will have no affect.

What she said isn't going to spur any leftists who were going to not vote in 2012 to suddenly get out to vote.

I don't think its going to turn any people on the right off of her.

I don't think its nearly offensive enough to where its going to cause her any TRUE moderate/indepenent votes or support. While it was perhaps insulting, I do think Obama's would've been looked at as more insulting, and it did little for moderates I think. Obama's was a direct insult to a specific group of people. Palin's is an indirect (calling one group something good, thus making it defacto assumed the opposite group isn't good).

All in all I think its something some on the left are desperately trying to grasp at to have something to yap about negatively about Palin, or the due to the stated desire by some people on this board for a while now to "give the conservatives a taste of their own medicine" like a bunch of smarmy annoying little 3rd graders.

I think it'll have little to absolutely no impact.
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did you find "bitter americans" devisive?
Do you find it that way?
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Do you find it that way?


Yes, I find both comments Divisive.
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If you live in NYC, L.A., Miami, Houston, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, St. Louis, New Orleans, Cleveland, Atlanta, San Diego, San Francisco, Albuquerque, Orlando you are not in the real America. Is that really hard for anybody to understand?
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did you find "bitter americans" devisive?
Yes it was devisive when people took that out of context.

I see some are still bitter.
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Yes it was devisive when people took that out of context.

I see some are still bitter.



So Palin is "in context" and Obama is "out of context"?


Please explain Obama's context then.


Maybe I should have the "independent" in my username instead of you.
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If you live in NYC, L.A., Miami, Houston, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, St. Louis, New Orleans, Cleveland, Atlanta, San Diego, San Francisco, Albuquerque, Orlando you are not in the real America. Is that really hard for anybody to understand?
And if you live everywhere else, you are a bitter religious nut clinging to your guns; Is that really hard for anybody to understand?
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Re: Will Palin's Words Come Back To Haunt Her?

I for one don't let politicians define who I or my countrymen are.


I go to these places, talk to the people and eat thier delicious food.


I find politicians to be bitter, and many not "Real Americans".....
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And if you live everywhere else, you are a bitter religious nut clinging to your guns; Is that really hard for anybody to understand?
And if you live in Texas you have a horse chew tobacco have a ten gallon hat and shoot guns
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