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Anger Is Crowd's Overarching Emotion at McCain Rally

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Anger Is Crowd's Overarching Emotion at McCain Rally

By Michael D. Shear and Perry Bacon Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writers
October 10, 2008


WAUKESHA, Wis., Oct. 9 -- There were shouts of "Nobama" and "Socialist" at the mention of the Democratic presidential nominee. There were boos, middle fingers turned up and thumbs turned down as a media caravan moved through the crowd Thursday for a midday town hall gathering featuring John McCain and Sarah Palin.

"It is absolutely vital that you take it to Obama, that you hit him where it hits, there's a soft spot," said James T. Harris, a local radio talk show host, who urged the Republican nominee to use Barack Obama's controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., and others against him.

"We have the good Reverend Wright. We have [the Rev. Michael L.] Pfleger. We have all of these shady characters that have surrounded him," Harris bellowed. "We have corruption here in Wisconsin and voting across the nation. I am begging you, sir. I am begging you. Take it to him."

The crowd of thousands roared its approval.

In recent days, a campaign that embraced the mantra of "Country First" but is flagging in the polls and scrambling for a way to close the gap as the nation's economy slides into shambles has found itself at the center of an outpouring of raw emotion rare in a presidential race.

"There's 26 days and people are looking at the very serious possibility that there's a chance that Obama might get in, and they don't like that," said Ian Eltrich, 28, as he filed out of the crowded sports complex.

"I'm mad! I'm really mad!" another man said, taking the microphone and refusing to surrender it easily, even when McCain tried to agree with him.

"I'm not done. Lemme finish, please," he said after a standing ovation. "When you have Obama, [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there going to run the country, we have to have our head examined.

"It's time that you two represent the rest of us. So go get 'em."

The crowd burst into loud chants of "U-S-A! U-S-A!"

Standing at the center of the crowd, McCain and Palin drew on the crowd's energy as they repeatedly trained their fire on Obama.

"Senator Obama has a clear radical, far-left, pro-abortion record," McCain said after being asked about the issue.

The answer prompted a shower of boos from the crowd members. They booed again when he mentioned William Ayers, who bombed U.S. facilities to protest the Vietnam War as part of the domestic terrorist group the Weather Underground. They booed again at the mention of Rep. Barney Frank, a liberal from Massachusetts.

McCain spends most of his time at his rallies and town hall meetings lambasting his rival, often calling him a "co-conspirator" with congressional Democrats in what he argues are the seeds of the financial crisis at mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

"Will you assure us," one woman asked, "that, as president, you will take immediate action to investigate, prosecute and name the names of the people actually responsible?"

"I will," McCain answered.

"The same people that are now claiming credit for this rescue are the same ones that were willing co-conspirators in causing this problem that it is," he said, raising his voice to be heard over the crowd. "You know their names. You will know more of their names."

The crowds that show up for his rallies these days appear to have little appetite for the talk of bipartisan compromise that had been at the heart of his message around the Republican National Convention. During a rally outside a small airport in Mosinee, Wis., on Thursday, McCain said that "it's time we come together, Democrats and Republicans to work together. That's my record. I'll reach across the aisle."

The crowd stood silent.

At the town hall gathering here, McCain praised Harris for his "courage" in speaking his mind. But, heedful of the economic chaos gripping the country, McCain sought to steer away, at least briefly, from attacks on Obama's character and integrity.

"Yes, I'll do that," he said of the request to "take it to" Obama. "But I also, my friends, want to address the greatest financial challenge of our lifetime with a positive plan for action that Senator Obama and I have. We need to restore hope and trust and confidence in America and have Americans know that our best days are ahead of us. That's the future and strength and beauty of America."

As the crowd filed out, several said they agreed with the man who said he was mad. Others went further.

"No, I'm not mad, I'm pissed," said Joan Schmitz, who owns a plumbing company here. She said she was frustrated with polls showing Obama surging, McCain's performance in a Tuesday night debate, Obama himself, the media, and the liberal group ACORN, which she said was registering voters fraudulently.

Noting Obama's connections with Ayers, she said that "if it was a Republican, it would be nonstop," referring to what she said was the media ignoring the controversial acquaintance.

"I can't stand to look at him, I don't trust him. I don't like the circle of friends he keeps, I don't like his policies," Schmitz said of Obama. "I'm pissed off by it. I'm beyond mad. How is he climbing up in the polls?"

On the way into the event, the Republican Party of Wisconsin handed out fliers reading "Your Vote Is Being Stolen," an anti-ACORN leaflet that concluded, "Why is vote fraud allowed? Vote fraud is allowed since it benefits Democrats."

The crowd showed equal disdain for the media, fueled by comments from Palin, who encouraged the Republican supporters to take the campaign's message around the media. "I can't pick a fight with those who buy ink by the barrel," she said. "It's dangerous territory whenever I suggest the mainstream media isn't asking all the questions."

That message was clearly shared among the crowd. Mike Payne, who traveled from Madison, Wis., for the rally, rejected the idea that McCain's supporters are angry, preferring to use the word "frustrated."

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McCain advisers dismissed the crowd's angry tone as an exception and not representative of most of the campaign's events. And they noted that those gathered seemed most upset by the media's handling of the contest, and simply wanted McCain to be more aggressive.

They also noted that many of McCain's events are attended by liberal protesters, who often yell epithets and hold angry signs as McCain's bus drives by. And they recalled angry words from Obama at a rally in Las Vegas last month, in which he urged supporters to talk to their friends and neighbors, saying "I want you to argue with them and get in their face."

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Wow.
Why are they "pissed"?
Why are they surprised?
Did they seriously think we were going to elect another Republican?

:confused:

I hope Mccain and Palin don't end up inadvertantly inciting any violence against Obama or obama supporters.
 
Let's be honest, there's a fair body of Democrats that would lynch Bush if they came upon him without security.

The difference is that the hatred towards Obama is the product of evil demagogues whereas Bush is actually a bad, terrible man.
 
All non-comatose people in this country SHOULD be angry right now.
 
Wow.
Why are they "pissed"?
Why are they surprised?
Did they seriously think we were going to elect another Republican?

:confused:

I hope Mccain and Palin don't end up inadvertantly inciting any violence against Obama or obama supporters.


I know John McCain wants to be president, but he's that desperate that he would allow him and Palin to incite the reactions that they are getting. It sickens me. I just cannot fathom that kind of desperation and/or mentality. It is so inhuman--I can't believe this.
 
John Weaver, McCain’s former top strategist, said top Republicans have a responsibility to temper this behavior.

“People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, the differences with Sen. Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared to Sen. McCain,” Weaver said. “And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive.”

Panic attacks: Voters unload at GOP rallies - Jonathan Martin - Politico.com

LaHood [a seven-term Republican Congressman from Illinois] supports the McCain ticket, but doesn't like what he sees at some of the McCain-Palin rallies: When Barack Obama's name has been mentioned by Sarah Palin, there are shouts of "terrorist," and LaHood says Palin should put a stop to it.

"Look it. This doesn't befit the office that she's running for. And frankly, people don't like it."

WBBM 780 - Chicago's #1 source for local news, traffic and weather - LaHood: Palin Should Stop It

I'm stunned that the McCain supports on here see nothing wrong with this kind of behavior.

How would McCain be able to reach across the aisle after this kind of behavior?
 
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I know John McCain wants to be president, but he's that desperate that he would allow him and Palin to incite the reactions that they are getting. It sickens me. I just cannot fathom that kind of desperation and/or mentality. It is so inhuman--I can't believe this.

Oh come on McCain isnt making these people angry they are angry.To be fair America is about to elect someone they disagree with on pretty much every issue.How would you feel in that situation.
 
Oh come on McCain isnt making these people angry they are angry.To be fair America is about to elect someone they disagree with on pretty much every issue.How would you feel in that situation.

I felt that way in 2004. I certainly didn't react anything like this, even though George Bush put our troops into a war that killed thousands of them.

I think if our economy was thriving, these people wouldn't be so angry. McCain is taking advantage of people's anger and letting it be directed at Obama.
 
I hope Mccain and Palin don't end up inadvertantly inciting any violence against Obama or obama supporters.

If they do kill Obama, they just have no idea of what will follow.
It would not only be blacks that attack every Republican in sight.
Every street in America would look like Iraq.
 
I felt that way in 2004. I certainly didn't react anything like this, even though George Bush put our troops into a war that killed thousands of them.

I think if our economy was thriving, these people wouldn't be so angry. McCain is taking advantage of people's anger and letting it be directed at Obama.

Nah republicans tend to be more aggressive in nature.

Democrats tend to be more passive aggressive like women.
 
I felt that way in 2004. I certainly didn't react anything like this, even though George Bush put our troops into a war that killed thousands of them.

Did you even bother to watch the video posted earlier of ALL the politicians who supported the war? It was a bipartisan decision to go to war. George Bush didn't do it all on his own.
 
I know some people think I am overreacting, but I really want to throw up reading about all this stuff.

I am sooooooo hoping that this disgusts the independents who are undecided so that they don't vote for McCain. I know it doesn't mean they will vote for Obama, but it still hurts McCain who is trailing in the polls.

I'm still too afraid to say that I think Obama will win, but I sure hope he does so that McCain will retire from the Senate in shame.
 
If they do kill Obama, they just have no idea of what will follow.
It would not only be blacks that attack every Republican in sight.
Every street in America would look like Iraq.

Who are you referring to by "they"? If he does get assassinated it will be by some crazed lunatic. I don't see any "they" in it.
 
I know some people think I am overreacting, but I really want to throw up reading about all this stuff.

I am sooooooo hoping that this disgusts the independents who are undecided so that they don't vote for McCain. I know it doesn't mean they will vote for Obama, but it still hurts McCain who is trailing in the polls.

I'm still too afraid to say that I think Obama will win, but I sure hope he does so that McCain will retire from the Senate in shame.

Nice. A POW retiring in shame. Nice.
 
Who are you referring to by "they"? If he does get assassinated it will be by some crazed lunatic. I don't see any "they" in it.

They = McCain followers shouting "kill him".

In any regard, it will not be received as "some crazed lunatic".
Most of us will see it as an attack on our Nation from within by a party that represents hatred and intolorance.
 
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Nice. A POW retiring in shame. Nice.

While there is honor in being a former POW, there is dishonor in cheating on your wife, making false statements, and inciting anger in your opponent.

I'm sick and tired of people asserting McCain's integrity solely based on his POW experience. Yes, it was horrific, and yes he should be admired for that, but he needs to keep earning his integrity through his behavior, which he has NOT.
 
I know some people think I am overreacting, but I really want to throw up reading about all this stuff.

I'm absolutely disgusted with McCain, Palin and their campaign. They are purposefully inciting hate in our country......as if there wasn't enough hate already.

The lies, smears and ugliness that these mavericks are spewing is what sickens me. They've gone beyond what is acceptable and have chosen to set a dangerous tone.

McCain/Palin continue to falsely link Obama to terrorists and when the crowds yell out “terrorist”, “traitor”, and “kill him” they don't challenge those allegations. What they are doing is throwing another log on the fire which they have created.

It's sad. It's scary. It's dangerous. McCain has proven that he truly is willing to do and say anything to get into the white house. McCain once said that he would never run a "dirty, negative campaign."

Is this a clean campaign, John?
Is this a positive campaign, John?

John McCain traded in his badge of honor for a pile of **** and now he's peddling that pile of **** to the American people as if it proves his worthiness.

Worthy, huh. What is McCain worthy of? The only thing he's worthy of is my contempt. My solid contempt of the lies, fear and hate he's propagating.

This is what the dictionary says about a terrorist:

2.
a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

Wiki says this:
Most common definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants
.

A rather fair representation of the current McCain/Palin behavior......terrorist indeed.


:comp:
 
While there is honor in being a former POW, there is dishonor in cheating on your wife, making false statements, and inciting anger in your opponent.

I'm sick and tired of people asserting McCain's integrity solely based on his POW experience. Yes, it was horrific, and yes he should be admired for that, but he needs to keep earning his integrity through his behavior, which he has NOT.

How is he inciting anger? Do you not realize people are pissed right now? Specifically, what is John McCain doing to incite anger? Specifically.
 
Nice. A POW retiring in shame. Nice.

Do you guys think "POW" is some kind of magic word that can be thrown out in defense anytime an argument is lost?

What does POW have to do with anything?
When he was a POW, I was not even born yet.
And i am a middle aged man.
 
McCain/Palin continue to falsely link Obama to terrorists and when the crowds yell out “terrorist”, “traitor”, and “kill him” they don't challenge those allegations. What they are doing is throwing another log on the fire which they have created.
Falsely link? They don't have to falsely link Obama to Ayers or Obama to Jeremiah Wright. Ayers, as recently as 9/11, said he wish he'd done more with regard to terrorism. I'm not getting the "false" link.
 
Do you guys think "POW" is some kind of magic word that can be thrown out in defense anytime an argument is lost?

What does POW have to do with anything?
When he was a POW, I was not even born yet.
And i am a middle aged man.

To want a man who served his country with honor to retire into shame because you don't like his campaign? You're cool with that? I'm not.
 
To want a man who served his country with honor to retire into shame because you don't like his campaign? You're cool with that? I'm not.

What does his military record have to do with anything?

He already has shame.
Shame for wanting to pursue an agenda of global domination.
Shame for his economic policies that loot our middle class.
Shame for running the most erratic campaign in history.
Shame for selling out his ideals any time he thinks he can get more votes.
Shame for lying his ass off repeately.
Shame for enciting violence and hate.

I prefer not to add, "Shame for causing a Nuclear Holocaust" to the list.

His military service has no relevance to anything at all what so ever.
Rev. Wright also served in the Military with honor.
Do you feel the same way about Wright?
 
How is he inciting anger? Do you not realize people are pissed right now? Specifically, what is John McCain doing to incite anger? Specifically.

Yes, I understand that people are pissed. Their houses are being forclosed on. They are suffering from the economic downturn.

He incites the crowds by making more of the relationship between Ayers and Obama.

I notice that you failed to address the other two things I accused McCain of doing. The fact that he did those two things are enough to cause him to be dishonorable.
 
What does his military record have to do with anything?

He already has shame.
Shame for wanting to pursue an agenda of global domination.
Shame for his economic policies that loot our middle class.
Shame for running the most erratic campaign in history.
Shame for selling out his ideals any time he thinks he can get more votes.
Shame for lying his ass off repeately.
Shame for enciting violence and hate.

I prefer not to add, "Shame for causing a Nuclear Holocaust" to the list.

His military service has no relevance to anything at all what so ever.
Rev. Wright also served in the Military with honor.
Do you feel the same way about Wright?
No I don't feel the same way about Wright. And if you want to talk about inciting, why don't you check out one of his sermons?
 
Yes, I understand that people are pissed. Their houses are being forclosed on. They are suffering from the economic downturn.

He incites the crowds by making more of the relationship between Ayers and Obama.

I notice that you failed to address the other two things I accused McCain of doing. The fact that he did those two things are enough to cause him to be dishonorable.
I supposed you think Bill Clinton is dishonorable? Any person who cheats on a spouse is dishonorable. And are you seriously saying Obama has not made false statements?

This is what I find absolutely fascinating about Obama supporters. I admit the faults of the candidate I will vote for. While you are espousing all the things McCain has done, your boy is doing the same. It's amazing.
 
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