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Old 10-04-08, 05:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The way things are going I think we will soon have to change the name of our country to Das Sozialistische Republik der Staaten von Amerika or
The Socialist Republic of the United States of America.

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Old 10-04-08, 06:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm Southern and in one of the largest cities in the country and don't agree with your take on it at all. (Not surprising!)

I think your side likes to paint it like it's so black and white but it's not. Do you really think no minorities or immigrants are conservative? People who worked their asses off to make it here (and learned English!) and be successful. People who left oppressive countries to find liberty.

My neighborhood is mostly white but we certainly have hispanics, blacks, Asians, biracial families. We even have Jews and Muslims. I don't know how these people in particular vote but I'm in a heavily Republican district so some of 'em must not be liberals.
I am not saying that no minorities are conservative. There are always those 3 or 4 Blacks the cameras zoom in on from time to time at the RNC conventions.

Seriously though, the vast majority of minorities do not vote Republican though, and there is a strong statistical correlation between how diverse a community is, and whether it votes Democrat or Republican.
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I am not saying that no minorities are conservative. There are always those 3 or 4 Blacks the cameras zoom in on from time to time at the RNC conventions.

Seriously though, the vast majority of minorities do not vote Republican though, and there is a strong statistical correlation between how diverse a community is, and whether it votes Democrat or Republican.
I don't think you need a "vast majority" of minorities to win elections, though. We'd love to get just 25% of the black vote.
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I don't think you need a "vast majority" of minorities to win elections, though. We'd love to get just 25% of the black vote.
Thats the problem though, minorities don't vote Democrat because they are stupid and don't know any better, they vote Democrat because thats the party the most closely matches their personal values. If Republicans were more moderate, they would get more minority votes, but the base of their party will not let them get anywhere near the center.

Oh, and also like I tell my wife that is from Texas, Texas is the Southwest, not the South.

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To me, "real America" is the heavily liberal city I was born in and have lived my entire life in, but I'm not stupid enough to think that's "real America" for everyone (which is why I've never left; I know other parts of America must be very different, and that people there would have a different value-system than mine).
The majority of American people today are not inhabitants of small towns and rural areas... although, statistically, perhaps the majority of white conservative fundamentalist christians are, and it's unsurprising to me that they'd believe they are the only "real" people, and that their America is therefore the only "real" America.

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My exclusionism is based upon their (self-chosen) belief system, which I find detrimental to society.
Theirs is largely based upon factors that people cannot help, such as race and sexual orientation.

No. I do not see the irony.
Interesting that you summarily dismiss these people who you don't know and have never lived around, yet you know all about them and label them as arrogant. Seems a little arrogant on your part, does it not?
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Oh, and also like I tell my wife that is from Texas, Texas is the Southwest, not the South.
Not if you're a Texan. Southwest is more like New Mexico and Arizona.
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Not if you're a Texan. Southwest is more like New Mexico and Arizona.
I know I am only kidding (and it pisses my wife off every time I say that) Anyone that has ever been to East Texas knows that its definitely the south.
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The way things are going I think we will soon have to change the name of our country to Das Sozialistische Republik der Staaten von Amerika or
The Socialist Republic of the United States of America.
Socialist nations seldom refer to themselves as socialist in their name.

It would be more like The Peoples Republic of America.
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I know I am only kidding (and it pisses my wife off every time I say that) Anyone that has ever been to East Texas knows that its definitely the south.
Oh, okay. I didn't know you were joking. I bet your wife lets you have it for that.
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The part of Texas I'm from is definitely the South, not the Southwest. But Texas is huge. Maybe the western part of it is more "Southwest-y".
My kids have gone camping out there, and from the pictures they've brought back, it appears much more like New Mexico/ Arizona than like Louisiana or any other part of the South. Mountains, rocks, and deserts.
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