Focus group nearly unanimous: Palin won.........

Navy Pride · 10-03-08, 01:05 PM

This is not good news for Obama..........

Focus group nearly unanimous: Palin won

Undecided voters were split evenly on VP hopeful before debate

Posted: October 03, 2008
9:25 am Eastern

Iriemon · 10-03-08, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy Pride

This is not good news for Obama..........

Focus group nearly unanimous: Palin won

Undecided voters were split evenly on VP hopeful before debate

Posted: October 03, 2008
9:25 am Eastern

Little news from Fox is good news for Obama, if you hadn't noticed. But given that more objective polls give the nod to Biden, I doubt anyone supporting Obama is quaking about "news" from Fox.

dclxvinoise · 10-03-08, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy Pride

This is not good news for Obama..........

Focus group nearly unanimous: Palin won

Undecided voters were split evenly on VP hopeful before debate

Posted: October 03, 2008
9:25 am Eastern

So what? WorldNetDaily is known to be conservative source, not to mention the fact that the video of the focus group was from Fox News. I think it's obvious if one looks at both sides (as with most debates) they always think that their side won. Plus, with the first two debates of the election season there wasn't really a clear winner. Neither one of the candidates really blew their opponent away. I will give Palin credit and say that she came off as charming, quick witted and far more articulate than what we had seen during the week with the Couric interviews. We saw the same Palin that gave the rousing speech at the RNC and she definitely deserves points for that. In order for McCain to have a comfortable lead over Obama he's going to have to blow him away in at least one of the next two debates. If they go the same as the first one did, I'd say that the McCain will have some significant worries when Election day rolls around.

K-1 · 10-03-08, 01:15 PM

I mean come on, of course she won the debate. Only the liberal media would say she didn't, or people who think that stating false statements, and misrepresenting people's voting records, means that you win a debate...

Kernel Sanders · 10-03-08, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy Pride

This is not good news for Obama.........

Maybe not, but Fox News calling the debate for Biden sure is

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JMak · 10-03-08, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Little news from Fox is good news for Obama, if you hadn't noticed. But given that more objective polls give the nod to Biden, I doubt anyone supporting Obama is quaking about "news" from Fox.

Upon what basis do you question the objectivity of this poll?

That's it's being conducted by Fox News?

Chalk yet another logical fallacy...this one = attacking the messenger. Rather than addressing how the poll was conducted, the poster attacked the firm conducting the poll.

If you want to see an example of a non-objective poll, look at CNN's uncomitted Ohio voters group last. When asked who won, 13 said Biden and 11 said Palin out of 32 total. The CNN facilitator's characterization of the result, "overwhelming for Biden."

dclxvinoise · 10-03-08, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by K-1

I mean come on, of course she won the debate. Only the liberal media would say she didn't, or people who think that stating false statements, and misrepresenting people's voting records, means that you win a debate...

Don't you think that the "liberal" media would have said that Biden was far ahead of Palin during the debates? If they have such a clear cut agenda, why did they say that the debates were close and that there really wasn't a clear cut winner? The partisan hackery displayed by both sides in situations like this is just hilarious.

Iriemon · 10-03-08, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JMak

Upon what basis do you question the objectivity of this poll?

That's it's being conducted by Fox News?

Yep. Plus the fact that most other polls show Biden winning. Could be a big coincidence, I suppose.

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Chalk yet another logical fallacy...this one = attacking the messenger. Rather than addressing how the poll was conducted, the poster attacked the firm conducting the poll.

The messenger deserved to be attacked, IMO.

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If you want to see an example of a non-objective poll, look at CNN's uncomitted Ohio voters group last. When asked who won, 13 said Biden and 11 said Palin out of 32 total. The CNN facilitator's characterization of the result, "overwhelming for Biden."

I agree the characterization was not accurate. But if this non-objective poll shows a majority favoring Biden, wouldn't that lead one to question whether the Fox poll showing a nearly unanimous vote that Biden won was objective?

ARealConservative · 10-03-08, 01:28 PM

This is the infamous "F U" Frank.

FU Frank Luntz (aka Words That Lie) | Corrente

Navy Pride · 10-03-08, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dclxvinoise

So what? WorldNetDaily is known to be conservative source, not to mention the fact that the video of the focus group was from Fox News. I think it's obvious if one looks at both sides (as with most debates) they always think that their side won. Plus, with the first two debates of the election season there wasn't really a clear winner. Neither one of the candidates really blew their opponent away. I will give Palin credit and say that she came off as charming, quick witted and far more articulate than what we had seen during the week with the Couric interviews. We saw the same Palin that gave the rousing speech at the RNC and she definitely deserves points for that. In order for McCain to have a comfortable lead over Obama he's going to have to blow him away in at least one of the next two debates. If they go the same as the first one did, I'd say that the McCain will have some significant worries when Election day rolls around.

Don't shoot the messenger....watch the video...those people are real.......Of course the liberal media is going to say Biden won..........Hell they still think Gore won in 2000............