John McCain 2,343 Votes. Ron Paul, 15

rightwinghour · 09-04-08, 05:38 PM

After getting screwed out of his delegates in Nevada, Ron Paul still managed to get second place in the delegate race with 15. Mitt Romney got 2 delegates. Maybe somebody with a little more knowledge in history can tell me, but has there ever been another time in the past hundred years or so that the second place guy wasn't allowed to speak at the convention?

the makeout hobo · 09-04-08, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rightwinghour

After getting screwed out of his delegates in Nevada, Ron Paul still managed to get second place in the delegate race with 15. Mitt Romney got 2 delegates. Maybe somebody with a little more knowledge in history can tell me, but has there ever been another time in the past hundred years or so that the second place guy wasn't allowed to speak at the convention?

Wasn't he technically 4th, behind McCain, Romney, and Huckabee? If I understand correctly, those two told their delegates to vote for McCain.

Can you tell me the last time someone with 15 votes got to speak?

rightwinghour · 09-04-08, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the makeout hobo

Wasn't he technically 4th, behind McCain, Romney, and Huckabee? If I understand correctly, those two told their delegates to vote for McCain.

Can you tell me the last time someone with 15 votes got to speak?

No, but I can tell you when two former candidates who got 0 votes got to speak: at the RNC 2008. And technically, Paul got 24 delegates during the primaries.

the makeout hobo · 09-04-08, 06:01 PM

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No, but I can tell you when two former candidates who got 0 votes got to speak: at the RNC 2008. And technically, Paul got 24 delegates during the primaries.

25, 15, either way he didn't win that many. Yes, Thompson and Guiliani lost (though I believe they both at least initially won a handful of delegates that they released so McCain could get them), but they weren't entitled to any speaking spot.

Now why should a candidate who has not pledged to support the winner get to speak? Why is he entitled to it?

rightwinghour · 09-04-08, 06:52 PM

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25, 15, either way he didn't win that many. Yes, Thompson and Guiliani lost (though I believe they both at least initially won a handful of delegates that they released so McCain could get them), but they weren't entitled to any speaking spot.

Now why should a candidate who has not pledged to support the winner get to speak? Why is he entitled to it?

Thompson and Guiliani didn't get any delegates at all. I never said Paul was entitled though. I thought of it more as a courtesy, and maybe even a way to reach out to the over 1 million people who voted for Paul.

the makeout hobo · 09-04-08, 06:58 PM

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Thompson and Guiliani didn't get any delegates at all. I never said Paul was entitled though. I thought of it more as a courtesy, and maybe even a way to reach out to the over 1 million people who voted for Paul.

Well he didn't. Tough luck, suck it up.

jfuh · 09-04-08, 09:34 PM

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Well he didn't. Tough luck, suck it up.

I think the key point is that Paul would say things that would hurt the "conservatives" at the GOP which is why he was "barred" from the convention.