| US Elections A Noun, A Verb, and POW; John McCain has reached Guiliani territory, where he or his campaign makes a reference to his POW experience as an ... |
08-22-08, 11:40 PM
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Current Mood: | A Noun, A Verb, and POW John McCain has reached Guiliani territory, where he or his campaign makes a reference to his POW experience as an excuse for every issue that comes up. I don't know if there's a single issue, no matter how far removed from Viet Nam, that McCain hasn't played the POW card. It's getting old now, and it'll get a lot older towards November. (Also, for the record, this thread is not about Obama, or Kerry, or Clinton, or Romney, or anyone except John McCain.)
Concerning the S&L scandal: Quote: |
Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics
| When he was accused to being a carpetbagger during his first race: Quote: |
"I wish I could have had the luxury, like you, of growing up and living and spending my entire life in a nice place like the first district of Arizona, but I was doing other things. As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi."
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From his campaign concerning the the recent charge that he might have cheated at Saddleback: Quote: |
"The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,"
| From his campaign concerning the recent housing flap: Concerning Elizabeth Edwards' call for Universal Healthcare Quote: |
"It's a cheap shot, but I did have a period of time where I didn't have very good healthcare, I had it from another government"
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Concerning his love of ABBA: Quote: |
"I’ve got to say that a lot of my taste in music stopped about the time I impacted a surface-to-air missile with my own airplane and never caught up again."
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"Now my friends, I wasn't there," McCain said of the rock-and-roll festival. "I'm sure it was a cultural and pharmaceutical event. I was, I was tied up at the time."
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"In the prison camps of North Vietnam, there weren't Republicans or Democrats, there were just patriots."
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As an aside, here's two of my other favorite McCain quotes: Quote: |
"One of the things I've never tried to do is exploit my Vietnam service to my country because it would be totally inappropriate to do so."
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"[I'm] sick and tired of re-fighting" the Vietnam War.
"It's offensive to me, and it's angering to me that we're doing this," he said. "It's time to move on."
| McCain Reflects on His POW Experience | The Trail | washingtonpost.com CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain rises to ABBA’s defense « - Blogs from CNN.com The POW Dodge | The American Prospect Bloomberg.com: Politics POW status was key factor in McCain's first race - Boston.com http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/politics/18mccain.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Originally Posted by Navy Pride At least he does not step up and say "Reporting for Duty" like the traitor "Lurch" Kerry did......... | How does what McCain does any different? They're both pimping out their war records. |
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08-22-08, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the makeout hobo How does what McCain does any different? They're both pimping out their war records. | Nope, McCain does not have to do that because Obama has no war record or any record for that matter......... |
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Originally Posted by the Original Post (Also, for the record, this thread is not about Obama, or Kerry, or Clinton, or Romney, or anyone except John McCain.) | Just in case you didn't read the OP closely enough. Please stay on topic.
also, how is this not McCain pimping out his war record? He mentions it every chance he gets. |
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Originally Posted by Navy Pride At least he does not step up and say "Reporting for Duty" like the traitor "Lurch" Kerry did......... | I'm constantly amazed that you, Navy, show no bones about direspecting the service of someone who's served your country. You should be ashamed.
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Originally Posted by Navy Pride At least he does not step up and say "Reporting for Duty" like the traitor "Lurch" Kerry did......... | This is just an incredibly moronic statement. Kerry served in combat, Kerry rescued his own wounded, Kerry got up close and personal with enemy combatants.
And Kerry protested the very reason he was there, he spoke up about things he saw that made him sick, and pronounced his dissatisfaction by throwing his medals away. Good for him! Why be proud of your participation in an endeavor you absolutely did not believe in? Kerry went to Vietnam, fought, and got wounded. He earned his right to protest.
And you call him a traitor? I challenge you, like I have so many others, to jump off the Swiftboat Veterans for Bull**** Lies and Innuendo and step up to the plate. Substantiate that Kerry is a traitor.
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Originally Posted by Middleground I'm constantly amazed that you, Navy, show no bones about direspecting the service of someone who's served your country. You should be ashamed. | The problem is MG you know nothing about it......You don't know how this scumbag trashed his fellow Viet Nam Vets........You don't know how he is held in high esteem by the NVN.........You don't know what a liar he is when it comes to his time in the Navy and the awards he received that are questionable to this day.............
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Originally Posted by JeffMerriman This is just an incredibly moronic statement. Kerry served in combat, Kerry rescued his own wounded, Kerry got up close and personal with enemy combatants.
And Kerry protested the very reason he was there, he spoke up about things he saw that made him sick, and pronounced his dissatisfaction by throwing his medals away. Good for him! Why be proud of your participation in an endeavor you absolutely did not believe in? Kerry went to Vietnam, fought, and got wounded. He earned his right to protest.
And you call him a traitor? I challenge you, like I have so many others, to jump off the Swiftboat Veterans for Bull**** Lies and Innuendo and step up to the plate. Substantiate that Kerry is a traitor. |
When you trash true Medal of Honor winners and Prisoners of War I really question the fact that you were ever in the military........."Lurch" Kerry is a scumbag loser.....He is a and elistist snob and always will be.............God bless the Swiftboat Vets, Medal of Honor winners, and POWs who made sure this scumbag never got elected president......... |
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Originally Posted by JeffMerriman And Kerry protested the very reason he was there, he spoke up about things he saw that made him sick, and pronounced his dissatisfaction by throwing his medals away. | That's a flat out lie. John Kerry has stated those weren't his medals, but someone elses medals. The 1988 issue of Current Biography Yearbook says that Kerry explained that the medals were not his but those of another veteran who asked him to throw them on his behalf.
Critics of John Kerry say he either created a false impression by throwing the borrowed medals or spent a long time letting a false impression remain before he admitted that he still had his medals.
Defenders say Kerry never misrepresented the medals because he did not claim that they were his and openly displays them in his office. John Kerry's anti-war past-Truth! and "Unproven!
Yes, Kerry is so dissatisfied, that they hang on the wall in his office. Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffMerriman Why be proud of your participation in an endeavor you absolutely did not believe in? | Obviously you're not talking about the Vietnam War, it can hardly be described as an "endeavour".
So you must be talking about these "endeavours" he participated in:
And the lovely Jane trying out the latest NVA head apparel and AA hardware. Google Image Result for http://patriotpost.us/news/images/hanoijane.jpg
No need for any Swiftboating here. Just easily refuting more liberal lies.
Yes, he was so dissatisfied that he went on to proclaim at the '04 DNC, "I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty". American Rhetoric: John Kerry -- Acceptance Address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention Address
Then he goes on to totally disrespect our troops when he blurted out this: You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.
This pic accurately sums up John Kerry and his buddy John Edwards. 
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