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Originally Posted by danarhea  McCain's op-ed piece has a huge logical hole in it.
The purpose of the surge, as stated by Bush, and also McCain, who supported it, was so that Iraq could create a political solution, and be able to solve their own problems.
This was also echoed by Bush himself before he authorized the surge.
So here is the hole in John McCain's argument....
1) If it is true that we cannot leave Iraq, then the troop surge has not accomplished its purpose. If the troop surge failed, then we cannot leave, and we have not accomplished the objective.
2) If, on the other hand, the troop surge accomplished its purpose, then, according to the the administration's own stated objective, and reasoning, we should be able to leave Iraq, because that objective has been met.
You see, McCain can't have it both ways, and appear to be the least bit credible. |
You fail to see the situation clearly.
The process of creating a functioning government from scratch takes time. It is made impossibly difficult with widespread violence going on throughout the land, day and night.
Even if there was NO violence from now on there would still be a need for our troops there until the threat of infiltration and internal subversion by Iran is no longer a problem.
How would you like it if, after we have poured billions of dollars into rebuilding, retraining and re-equipping Iraq and its security & military forces then we left and the Iranians began to seep in? If they came in before a habit or tradition of integrity and national loyalty had been instilled into the Iraqi government, military and people, the Iranians could easily force, intimidate, bribe, or otherwise persuade the Govt. officials or military or police or key people within the national infrastructure to do a certain thing or not do a certain thing and voila! The Iranians would be on their way to controlling Iraq.
And they would have a well equipped and functioning society, thanks to us and it would have been virtually handed to the Iranians on a silver platter.
Iraq is like a hospital patient who has suffered a concussion and wants to be released from the hospital as soon as he regains consciousness but the doctor says that he should stay for another day or two for observation because just because he feels ok now doesn't mean that he's able to functional normally just yet.
The surge has worked astonishingly well in reducing the level of violence so that the business of rebuilding the country can proceed in earnest. But the work that has just now begun requires a stability that just can't be short changed.
The President has ALWAYS said we will stand down as soon as the Iraqis can stand up. Well they are now starting to stand up. And guess what?
There are 20,000 fewer troops in Iraq than there were when the Surge began. So, there is progress being made.
I gather you are a professional musician. As soon as you finish your last song do you break down your equipment and rush home?
No.
You get paid. You talk with fans to keep them happy. You talk with representatives of the establishment to keep them informed and happy. You may have a drink and shoot the breeze. You might network with some of the other musicians who played with you. You might talk about the next gig or who is available to sit in for the drummer whose wife is preggers and might deliver next week. Then you break everything down and load it up and go home.
Why?
Because the job entails more than just performing and going home. If you neglect the post performance stuff and you might not have as long a run at that place as you might have liked.
If you are a happily married man you know that after making love with your wife you had better not get into the habit of just getting up afterwards and dashing off elsewhere. The afterglow cuddling and pillow talk is part of the deal.
There is no getting around it.
If you think the job is done as soon as the main performance is complete you will soon learn otherwise.
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