Another Unsavory Obama Associate a Communist - Page 18

jallman · 07-22-08, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I'm sorry that you judge books by their cover. But I still admire you.

If you will at least check the sources hyperlinked within the text of the WND story you may find yourself making an exception for WND's supposed lack of journalistic integrity, at least this one time.

I ran across the Communist mentor story elsewhere and before now and I'm sure it checks out. And there is no doubt about the $845 Billion Obama Global Poverty bill, either.

I just find WND to be a malicious and dishonest rag when it comes to social issues. After some of the spin they put on a few stories I will never look at them as anything more than a political tabloid.

bhkad · 07-22-08, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jallman

I just find WND to be a malicious and dishonest rag when it comes to social issues. After some of the spin they put on a few stories I will never look at them as anything more than a political tabloid.

I guess I can understand that if they have taken stands against Gays, for example. But if they post links to other sources it's not really them telling you the news. They are getting it from other sources and re-packaging it.

I have no qualms about reading WND or posting their articles unless I disagree with what they say. And I feel that way about any site.

But I can't recall any stories I have read which I refrained from citing them as a source to link to. All I recall are a few posters, here and there, who seem to have a problem with WND.

Out of my regard for you I will spare you the withering condemnation I usually express when someone disparages any source based on their reputation.

I quote MSNBC, NBC, the NYT, Daily Kos, Moveon. org and al Jazeera if they have the goods. I'll use a quote from Clinton (Billary), OBL or Hitler if it helps me make my point.

End of sermon.

The silenced majority · 07-22-08, 06:55 AM

For the record.

If you people think that Communism/Marxism is limited to a simple economic philosophy, Google: Antonio Gramsci, Georg Lukacs, Max Horkeimer, Theodor Adorno, Felix Weil, Erich Fromm, Wilhelm Reich, Herbert Marcuse, The Frankfort School, Institute for Social research...

also Google: "cultural Terrorism", "cultural Pessimism", "critical theory", "matriarchal theory", "androgyny theory", "personality theory", "authority theory", "family theory", "sexuality theory", "racial theory", "legal theory" & "literary theory".

These people helped mainstream the: "White man's greed runs a world in need" & Black Liberation theology attitude.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-22-08, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Another Unsavory Obama Associate a Communist

A Communist is on Obama's staff of paid bloggers.

Paid bloggers???

So that means you might be posting here at DP and someone expressing a view might be a paid propagandist without telling you.

That seems really scary to me.

And a Communist to boot!

The more you look and the closer you look the more rats you find running around in Obama's campaign.

Are these the kind of people you want close to the Oval Office influencing policy behind your back?

Paid bloggers?

what a freaking hypocrite. he whined and cried to glamour magazine about how the bloggers were mean to his wife and how he is going to restrict them if elected yet now we have him doing the same thing.

freakin hypocrite.

bhkad · 07-22-08, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The silenced majority

For the record.

If you people think that Communism/Marxism is limited to a simple economic philosophy, Google: Antonio Gramsci, Georg Lukacs, Max Horkeimer, Theodor Adorno, Felix Weil, Erich Fromm, Wilhelm Reich, Herbert Marcuse, The Frankfort School, Institute for Social research...

also Google: "cultural Terrorism", "cultural Pessimism", "critical theory", "matriarchal theory", "androgyny theory", "personality theory", "authority theory", "family theory", "sexuality theory", "racial theory", "legal theory" & "literary theory".

These people helped mainstream the: "White man's greed runs a world in need" & Black Liberation theology attitude.

He and some of the people on his staff sometimes talk about a re-distribution of wealth between the rich and the poor. Well, this is his grand Socialist vision about to be passed.

He could be trying to make America a Socialist/Communist state and then seek to conquer the world by making the poor people on Earth dependent on the developed (United) Nations.

For the Marxist cause?

For Obama's personal gain?

For America?

For Islam???

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“This bill subordinates U.S. foreign policy to the U.N. and commits us to fulfill what are called the U.N. Millennium goals — that is, 0.7 percent of GNP to foreign aid. And that means we’ve got to come up $845 billion,”

$845 Billion Dollar Obama Bill at Sunflower Desert

Lerxst · 07-22-08, 08:26 AM

So now you are once again caught spinning your point, such as "The Obama Bill." How about you add a few names to that title in order present it accurately. You act as if this is Obama's grand plan, yet you fail to mention the dozens of other co-sponsors.

To be quite clear, I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BILL IN ANY WAY. I just want to point out bhkad's tactics here...as if I really need to.

You are a one man hype machine, like the Energizer Bunny but not cute and not good. What I think will be most enjoyable about all this is when Obama wins. Will your head actually explode?

Say hi to TOT for me.

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Originally Posted by Global Poverty Act

Global Poverty Act of 2007 (H.R.1302, S.2433)

* H.R.1302 introduced Reps. Adam Smith (D-WA) and Spencer Bachus (R-AL).*
* S.2433 was introduced bySenators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA).**

What the Global Poverty Act Would Do

It seeks to eliminate extreme poverty by:

* Declaring it official U.S. policy to promote the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the U.N. Millennium Development Goal of cutting extreme global poverty in half by 2015.
* Requiring the president to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to carry out that policy.
* Including guidelines for what the strategy should include — from aid, trade, and debt relief, to working with the international community, businesses and NGOs, to ensuring environmental sustainability.
* Requiring that the president’s strategy include specific and measurable goals, efforts to be undertaken, benchmarks, and timetables.
* Requiring the president to report back to Congress annually on progress made in the implementation of the global poverty strategy.

*The Global Poverty Act passed out of the House Foreign Affairs Committee on July 31, 2007 and was passed by a unanimous voice vote by the full House on September 25. For more information, please contact Katy Quinn with Rep. Adam Smith at katy.quinn@mail.house.gov or (202) 225-8901 or Jason Britt with Rep. Spencer Bachus at jason.britt@mail.house.gov or (202) 225-4921.

** The bill was passed by unanimous consent by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 13, 2008.

To cosponsor in the Senate, please contact Adam Cohn in Senator Barack Obama’s office at adam_cohn@obama.senate.gov or Chad Kreikemeier in Senator Chuck Hagel’s office at chad_kreikemeier@hagel.senate.gov.

Senate Cosponsors of S.2433 (as of July 21, 2008)

Biden, Joseph (D-DE)

Bingaman, Jeff (D-NM)

Boxer, Barbara (D-CA)

Brown, Sherrod (D-OH)

Cantwell, Maria (D-WA)

Cardin, Benjamin L. (D-MD)

Casey, Robert(D-PA)

Clinton, Hillary Rodham (D-NY)

Collins, Susan M. (R-ME)

Dodd, Christopher (D-CT)

Feingold, Russell (D-WI)

Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA)

Harkin, Tom (D-IA)

Johnson, Tim (D-SD)

Kerry, John (D-MA)

Kohl, Herb (D-WI)

Lautenberg, Frank R. (D-NJ)

Lugar, Richard (R-IN)

Menendez, Robert (D-NJ)

Mikulski, Barbara A. (D-MD)

Murray, Patty (D-WA)

Schumer, Charles E. (D-NY)

Smith, Gordon (R-OR)

Snowe, Olympia (R-ME)

Wyden, Ron (D-OR)

Final cosponsors of H.R.1302

Baird, Brian (D-WA)

Baldwin, Tammy (D-WI)

Bardallo, Madaleine (GU)

Berman, Howard L. (D-CA)

Blumenauer, Earl (D-OR)

Boswell, Leonard L. (D-IA)

Braley, Bruce L. (D-IA)

Capps, Lois (D-CA)

Carnahan, Russ (D-MO)

Carter, John (R-TX)

Cleaver, Emanuel (D-MO)

Cohen, Steve (D-TN)

Costa, Jim (D-CA)

Courtney, Joe (D-CT)

Crowley, Joseph (D-NY)

Dicks, Norman D. (D-WA)

Doggett, Lloyd (D-TX)

Doyle, Michael F. (D-PA)

Ehlers, Vernon J. (R-MI)

Ellison, Keith (MN)

Engel, Eliot L. (D-NY)

Eshoo, Anna G. (D-CA)

Grijalva, Raul M. (D-AZ)

Farr, Sam (D-CA)

Fattah, Chaka (D-PA)

Filner, Bob (D-CA)

Frank, Barney (D-MA)

Hastings, Alcee L. (D-FL)

Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie (D-SD)

Higgins, Brian (D-NY)

Hinojosa, Ruben (D-TX)

Honda, Michael M. (D-CA)

Inslee, Jay (D-WA)

Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. (D-IL)

Jackson-Lee Sheila (D-TX)

Jefferson, William J. (D-LA)

Johnson, E. Bernice (D-TX)

Kilpatrick, Carolyn (D-MI)

Lantos, Tom (D-CA)

Larsen, Rick (D-WA)

Lee, Barbara (D-CA)

Lewis, John (D-GA)

Loebsack, David (D-IA)

Lofgren, Zoe (D-CA)

Matheson, Jim (D-UT)

McCaul, Michael T. (R-TX)

McCollum, Betty (D-MN)

McDermott, Jim (D-WA)

McGovern, James P. (D-MA)

McNerney, Jerry (D-CA)

Meek, Kendrick B (D-FL)

Meeks, Gregory W. (D-NY)

Miller, Brad (D-NC)

Moore, Gwen (D-WI)

Moran, James P. (D-VA)

Nadler, Jerrold (D-NY)

Norton, E. Holmes (D-DC)

Oberstar, James L. (D-MN)

Pastor, Ed (D-AX)

Payne, Donald M. (D-NJ)

Price, David E. (D-NC)

Reichert, David G. (R-WA)

Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana (R-FL)

Rush, Bobby L. (D-IL)

Sanchez, Linda T. (D-CA)

Schakowsky, Janice D. (D-IL)

Schiff, Adam B. (D-CA)

Schwartz, Allyson Y. (D-PA)

Sherman, Brad (D-CA)

Serrano, Jose E. (D-NY)

Shays, Christopher (R-CT)

Shuler, Heath (D-NC)

Sires, Albio (D-NJ)

Stark, Fortney Pete (D-CA)

Tauscher, Ellen (D-CA)

Udall, Tom (D-NM)

Van Hollen, Chris (D-MD)

Waters, Maxine (D-CA)

Watson, Diane E. (D-CA)

Waxman, Henry (D-CA)

Wexler, Robert (D-FL)

Woolsey, Lynn C. (D-CA)

Wu, David (D-OR)

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Holy crap, you are right bhkad...Communists ARE taking over our government!!!! AIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Global Communism.

If I were you I would build a bunker, buy some guns, and stock up on dried foods.

Middleground · 07-22-08, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I guess I can understand that if they have taken stands against Gays, for example. But if they post links to other sources it's not really them telling you the news. They are getting it from other sources and re-packaging it.

I have no qualms about reading WND or posting their articles unless I disagree with what they say. And I feel that way about any site.

WorldNetDaily is nothing but a tabloid rag. If you can't see that, then you're the type that enjoys getting your daily news from a tabloid rag. Judging by the quality of threads that you start here, it's quite obvious.

To give an indication of the intellectual level (or brainwashability) of WND readers, here's a poll that was put out by that cyber-rag, asking for opinions on the Obama New Yorker magazine cover:

WND's online, non-scientific poll received the following results as of 10:07 a.m. on July 14:

A total of 60% think that it's actually close to the truth. Unreal.

independent_thinker2002 · 07-22-08, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I never mentioned you or your name.

Yeah, my bad. I read that wrong.

I still don't accept WND as a source.

independent_thinker2002 · 07-22-08, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I have no qualms about reading WND or posting their articles unless I disagree with what they say. And I feel that way about any site.

That's some journalistic standard. Basically, you'll quote whomever agrees with you, regardless of their credibility.

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Originally Posted by bhkad

But I can't recall any stories I have read which I refrained from citing them as a source to link to. All I recall are a few posters, here and there, who seem to have a problem with WND.

I think it's more than a few. Even Jallman sees them for what they are.

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Out of my regard for you I will spare you the withering condemnation I usually express when someone disparages any source based on their reputation.

Jallman's a lucky guy.

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I quote MSNBC, NBC, the NYT, Daily Kos, Moveon. org and al Jazeera if they have the goods. I'll use a quote from Clinton (Billary), OBL or Hitler if it helps me make my point.

I quoted Huffington Post once. It was for Obama's race speech. It was for convenience as I copied the link from another poster on another thread. I wouldn't use Daily Kos or Moveon.org. If they have the "goods", it will be verifiable through other, trusted sources.

Truth Detector · 07-22-08, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

You do know communism isn't outlawed right? We have something called Communist Party of America now. McCarthy is probably rolling in the dirt as they update their site with modern day issues like the economy.

What is amazing to me is the notion that Obama's campaign, or the Democrats for that matter, is somehow addressing the economy.

Here's their prescription for the economy: more regulation, more taxes and blaming the previous administration while still not allowing further exploration or drilling, new nuclear plants and building refineries.

Bottom line: Don't judge us by our inability to provide a coherent plan, judge us by how we care and feel.