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Who Does Obama Think He Is???

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WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama wants to speak at the Brandenburg Gate. He figures it would be a nice backdrop. The supporting cast -- a cheering audience and a few fainting frauleins -- would be a picturesque way to bolster his foreign policy credentials.

What Obama does not seem to understand is that the Brandenburg Gate is something you earn. President Reagan earned the right to speak there because his relentless pressure had brought the Soviet empire to its knees and he was demanding its final "tear down this wall" liquidation. When President Kennedy visited the Brandenburg Gate on the day of his "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech, he was representing a country that was prepared to go to the brink of nuclear war to defend West Berlin.

Who is Obama representing? And what exactly has he done in his lifetime to merit appropriating the Brandenburg Gate as a campaign prop? What was his role in the fight against communism, the liberation of Eastern Europe, the creation of what George Bush 41 -- who presided over the fall of the Berlin Wall but modestly declined to go there for a victory lap -- called "a Europe whole and free"?

Does Obama not see the incongruity? It's as if a German pol took a campaign trip to America and demanded the Statue of Liberty as a venue for a campaign speech. (The Germans have now gently nudged Obama into looking at other venues.)

Americans are beginning to notice Obama's elevated opinion of himself. There's nothing new about narcissism in politics. Every senator looks in the mirror and sees a president. Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?

Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted "present" nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself.
Charles Krauthammer :: Townhall.com :: Who Does He Think He Is?

I mean, who among us who have a sense of history was not astounded at the gall of Obama asking to speak at the Brandenburg Gate?

He wants to be Emperor Obama, I think.

You all know that his major legislative bill would have US taxpayers help foot the bill to cut WORLD poverty in half!

That's the same answer that didn't work when LBJ applied it to America's Blacks in the 1960's but Obama says let's do the same thing but make it Global!

He is a piece of work.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
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First off..

Berlin Gears Up for Obama Visit | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 18.07.2008

So not at the Brandenburg gate. The controversy was an old one.

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Brandenburg Gate Controversy: Obama Reacts to Debate in Berlin - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

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Obama spokesman Bill Burton told the Associated Press on Wednesday He has considered several sites for a possible speech, and he will choose one that makes the most sense for him and his German hosts.
Has always been what the Obama camp has said. It is in fact right wing hags that have been going up in arms over one of the sites being considered being the Brandenburg gate and using the internet have promoted the illusion that this was the place he had chosen, when in fact no such call on where was taken until yesterday.

And it did not help that it seems that the Bush administration was playing surrogate for the McCain campaign by bringing up the issue at the G8 and attempting to "influence" the German government, who by the way have no influence in choosing the site. That was up to the Berlin Mayor.

Bush blamed for Merkel opposition to Brandenburg date for Obama - Europe, World - The Independent

As for using the Brandenburg gate as a back drop for a speech. I dont like it, as it has good and bad memories. Sure Reagan standing there saying "Bring down this wall" was iconic for many of my generation, but for even more the picture of Hitler driving in is Mercedes in the various victory parades under and around the gate is just as powerful symbol of evil. And JFK never spoke at the gate.. he visited, but did not speak there.

As for "who does he think he is"... hello.. he is a BLACK presidential candidate from the US, a country that 40 years ago still had apartheid like laws and traditions in large parts of the country. So yes his a "special one" (to quote a famous football managers view of himself), like it or not.

On top of that, he is the first serious presidential candidate that is truly multi ethnical both religious and socially. He has lived among Muslims and raised by Christians, lived among Asians, born into a black family and raised by white people. You can not say that this not totaly different than the usual standard middle to late aged white guy that the US has been electing since forever? America claims to be a melting pot, but this is the first serious candidate that is a true melting pot, and so yes he will attract far more media glare than McCain and sorry if that pisses you and the right off.
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First off..

Berlin Gears Up for Obama Visit | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 18.07.2008

So not at the Brandenburg gate. The controversy was an old one.

Secondly

Brandenburg Gate Controversy: Obama Reacts to Debate in Berlin - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News



Has always been what the Obama camp has said. It is in fact right wing hags that have been going up in arms over one of the sites being considered being the Brandenburg gate and using the internet have promoted the illusion that this was the place he had chosen, when in fact no such call on where was taken until yesterday.

And it did not help that it seems that the Bush administration was playing surrogate for the McCain campaign by bringing up the issue at the G8 and attempting to "influence" the German government, who by the way have no influence in choosing the site. That was up to the Berlin Mayor.

Bush blamed for Merkel opposition to Brandenburg date for Obama - Europe, World - The Independent

As for using the Brandenburg gate as a back drop for a speech. I dont like it, as it has good and bad memories. Sure Reagan standing there saying "Bring down this wall" was iconic for many of my generation, but for even more the picture of Hitler driving in is Mercedes in the various victory parades under and around the gate is just as powerful symbol of evil. And JFK never spoke at the gate.. he visited, but did not speak there.

As for "who does he think he is"... hello.. he is a BLACK presidential candidate from the US, a country that 40 years ago still had apartheid like laws and traditions in large parts of the country. So yes his a "special one" (to quote a famous football managers view of himself), like it or not.

On top of that, he is the first serious presidential candidate that is truly multi ethnical both religious and socially. He has lived among Muslims and raised by Christians, lived among Asians, born into a black family and raised by white people. You can not say that this not totaly different than the usual standard middle to late aged white guy that the US has been electing since forever? America claims to be a melting pot, but this is the first serious candidate that is a true melting pot, and so yes he will attract far more media glare than McCain and sorry if that pisses you and the right off.
No, I think Krauthammer captured the chutzpah of Obama in this fine, fine article.

When the Berlin Wall fell, President Bush refused to go to Germany to join in the celebrating as he felt it would be imprudent, even though NO ONE would have blamed him. The Cold War was long and costly in blood and fortune, and for the wall, which was symbolic of the Soviet ideology, to be torn down in our lifetime, it was a moment everyone who loved freedom could rejoice.

But for this 143 Day Senator to bring his presidential "road show" campaign to Germany shows an audacity that even a Jihadist could admire.

If the Koran commands the expansion of the religion to the world by any means necessary or possible, Obama is very subtly signaling his intention, if elected, to do more to expand Americana to the world than McCain would ever DREAM of!

Are you all aware that Obama is putting his community organizing experience to work and by introducing legislation to cut WORLD POVERTY BY HALF, (using US tax dollars as well as other methods), he intends to 'organize' the poor people of the World?

Be astonished. Be VERY astonished!

The last time Progressives did this was in the 1960's.

Now imagine a world filled with millions of angry, dysfunctional poor people and all of them wanting a handout.

Hey, maybe some parts of the world will be designated the ghettos.

Let's say that Germany will be like South Central L.A. and parts of Africa can be like East St. Louis and so on.
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An uproar on the right because Obama speaks and the Brandenburg gate?

Grasping for straws aren't we?
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But at least they'll all vote the democratic ticket in the world elections to make Obama Emperor.

And you sycophants will love it.



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It is a subject upon which he can dilate effortlessly. In his victory speech upon winning the nomination, Obama declared it a great turning point in history -- "generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment" -- when, among other wonders, "the rise of the oceans began to slow." As economist Irwin Stelzer noted in his London Daily Telegraph column, "Moses made the waters recede, but he had help." Obama apparently works alone.

Obama may think he's King Canute, but the good king ordered the tides to halt precisely to refute sycophantic aides who suggested that he had such power. Obama has no such modesty.

After all, in the words of his own slogan, "we are the ones we've been waiting for," which, translating the royal "we," means: "I am the one we've been waiting for." Amazingly, he had a quasi-presidential seal with its own Latin inscription affixed to his podium, until general ridicule -- it was pointed out that he was not yet president -- induced him to take it down
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I think the OP is just mad Bush hasn't been allowed to make a speech at the Brandenburg Gate. Oh well. We have 8 more years to let him make a speech.
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An uproar on the right because Obama speaks and the Brandenburg gate?

Grasping for straws aren't we?
Maybe you are right. We should have those candidates looking to create an Empire make campaign speeches in those locations we would colonize.

McCain isn't thinking of global domination but it looks like Obama is.

Let's give him the green light to create millions of loyal American subjects around the world. Hell, why not?

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I think the OP is just mad Bush hasn't been allowed to make a speech at the Brandenburg Gate. Oh well. We have 8 more years to let him make a speech.
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Maybe you are right. We should have those candidates looking to create an Empire make campaign speeches in those locations we would colonize.

McCain isn't thinking of global domination but it looks like Obama is.

Let's give him the green light to create millions of loyal American subjects around the world. Hell, why not?

Heh heh

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I think there's a more important issue here than the wall or where he speaks; why does Obama have this sense of entitlement to the Presidency that would motivate him to make stump speeches in Europe with all the fanfare and attitude of a state visit before he is even president? Three of the big network names are going with him (anyone doubt the bias in the media now?) and it's almost like he is campaigning in Europe. It's a slap in the face to Americans.

One positive note is that he is about to shoot himself in the foot with his Iraq visit. The fact that the troop surge has worked will force one of two situations. He will either A) have to acknowledge the troop surge working, which he already has by whitewashing his web site of his previous disagreement with the surge, and it will put him squarely against his cultishly adoring base, or B) he will be loyal to his base and place himself in opposition to General Petraeus, Bush, McCain, and the military.

Either way, the weasel is going to have trouble out of all this. That is, unless the media tows his bull**** line and spins it for him.
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