Why is McCain disliked by a majority of the republicans?

shuamort · 07-16-08, 03:02 PM

It seems that McCain has not been the choice of most of the republicans.

Hold Your Nose & Vote For McCain

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Many conservatives aren’t happy that John McCain is the Republican nominee. Many of these people may be planning to vote third party to “send a message” to the Republicans. Others might decide to “sit this one out,” rather than vote for someone like McCain. Both of these are bone-headed ideas to the extreme!

This site has been created to help conservatives get over themselves and do the right thing. And the right thing is to hold your nose and vote for John McCain to become the 45th President of the United States.

I find it odd since he seems to voting along party lines (or at least along presidential lines)

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Is it true John McCain voted with George Bush 95 percent of the time?
The Obama campaign keeps claiming McCain has voted with President Bush 95 percent of the time. Is this true? Is this significant?
A: Yes, it's true, according to Congressional Quarterly's assessment of McCain's voting record.

So what gives?

Indy · 07-16-08, 09:14 PM

I'd say its pretty much for the same reason that democrats typically vote along party lines as well. No surprise there.

obvious Child · 07-16-08, 11:28 PM

Perhaps because he doesn't bend over for the social conservatives?

He's more Conservative then Bush, but that doesn't say a whole lot.

Zyphlin · 07-17-08, 09:25 AM

Because on some of the more important issues to many conservatives, he's been one of the loudest against some of the things.

Because some are upset with Bush not exactly being Mr. Uber Conservative, and thus voting with him all the time doesn't say much. Remember, one of the biggest reasons conservatives dislike McCain is something him and Bush agreed on...Immigration.

Because he repeated basically speaks with utter contempt for conservative principles and conservatives in general. Its like that guy that can't stand and is embarrassed of his family and is trying to explain it to the neighbors so they neighbors will like him better...only the family is standing there 3 feet back hearing him say it all.

independent_thinker2002 · 07-17-08, 11:49 AM

If McCain is disliked by a majority of republicans, then why is he the nominee?

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-17-08, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shuamort

It seems that McCain has not been the choice of most of the republicans.

Hold Your Nose & Vote For McCain

I find it odd since he seems to voting along party lines (or at least along presidential lines)

So what gives?

McCain-feingold

Gun control

Immigration

Abortion

The latter two he paid lip service to in changing for the election. Thnis author not the thread starter but the author who says that republicans need to "Get over themselves" can go pound sand.

UtahBill · 07-17-08, 12:55 PM

I can only speak for myself here. I don't like him because he came from privelege and made the least of it. He was lazy while in the USNA, barely graduating. If it were not for his family legacy, he would have been booted from the Navy early on.
After his Navy years, he sought and bought a position in politics, and spent his time in congress proving that he is still lazy.
He also dumped an ill wife in favor of a younger, richer woman, with whom he was having an affair while still married. She was not the only affair either. Old John has a reputation as being a skirt chaser.
He knows nothing about economics and has pretty much avoided learning anything about it.
And he isn't hard line enough on illegal immigration.
The only things I like about him is that he isn't a liberal, and that he will supposedly veto any bill that has earmarks. Time will tell on the latter...

Zyphlin · 07-17-08, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

If McCain is disliked by a majority of republicans, then why is he the nominee?

Pretty simple really, go look at the primary results. McCain continually lost the strong conservative, strong republican vote. The problem was, he was THE person at the top of the list for anyone that was a moderate to liberal republican. However those that were more conservative republicans had a number of various candidates to choose between. As such, their votes were split between them throughout the states where as McCain had his niche well set, and rode it all the way through.

independent_thinker2002 · 07-17-08, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyphlin

Pretty simple really, go look at the primary results. McCain continually lost the strong conservative, strong republican vote. The problem was, he was THE person at the top of the list for anyone that was a moderate to liberal republican. However those that were more conservative republicans had a number of various candidates to choose between. As such, their votes were split between them throughout the states where as McCain had his niche well set, and rode it all the way through.

Could this be a problem with "winner take all" awarding of delegates? Do you believe that proportional allocation of delegates might have had a different outcome?

Indy · 07-17-08, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

The latter two he paid lip service to in changing for the election. Thnis author not the thread starter but the author who says that republicans need to "Get over themselves" can go pound sand.

What the heck does this really mean? I get the gist of it and understand what people are talking about when they use it but the actual phrase doesn't make much sense to me. Can you explain?