the makeout hobo

This is why we don't often discuss issues with you, rev. Instead of honestly trying to discuss the issues, you look for anything you can use, regardless of veracity, to throw at Obama. I've been reading your posts this entire thread and I haven't seen an actual point or issue with what you have against Obama's platform other than that there's something that might be a contridictino on the website and that you're too lazy to read the long version to find out.

As to your statement above, do you have any evidence this is what Obama doing, or is it just speculation? I think he just wants to make sure all of our soldiers have health care when they need it. We can give them at least that.


I've told you where you can go for more information, and why I can't pull it up for you. Why are you so against trying to broaden your understanding of the issue?

I'll disscuss the issue when you do. Pointing out a seeming contridiction on a topic you don't know much about and then yelling "OMG, OBAMA IS TEH EVIL" at the top of your lungs isn't discussing the issues.

And out of curiousity, why do you think Obama supporters "fight tooth and nail to not discuss the issues"?

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Good to see you talking about the issue and not the poster.


But nonsense. You all don't discuss obama's issues with anyone.





He said moderate-income.



Wait so you make a baseless speculation and then it is I who needs to find proof that your speculation exists?

Kinda bass ackwards no?



So wait let me get this straight. You all bitch when I posted about his racism that I did not post any topics discussing his issues.

So I start threads on his issues FROM his website, and the few that obama supporters bother to post on dont do anything but bitch about the Good Reverend and again ignore the topic.

Pathetic.



I'd probably get an infraction for saying it, lets just leave it at intelletual lazyness and swooning for Obama's charisma.

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obvious Child

Wrong. As pointed out there is a pdf on his website that explains the actual issue. You actions were either massively lazy or incompetent. Furthermore, you failed to research the subject. Therefore you are again, at fault.

Read the pdf lazy man.

Fine you didn't deliberately. At the time of posting your actions were too lazy or incompetent to notice the pdf

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Reverend_Hellh0und

i did. what page does it disagree with my assesment?

quote it please

gay4christ

I think the point is that the VA system and care is so poor that people with benefits who can afford it go elsewhere.

Maybe we need to fix the system so that it is not seen as a last resort!

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Government healthcare is healthcare with the quality of the DMV.


Fix it by privitizing it.

rsixing

How am I a burden to the VA? Didn't I serve my country? Didn't I sacrifice for my nation? Why should VA benefits be based on income rather then service? I don't get the rationale.

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rsixing

I know the VA system has its issues. And yes, some of the treatment has been less then standard but the whole of VA care is not "poor" and I believe if anyone here has ever used a VA facility they would support my position.

IMO when it's all said and done the care is dependent upon the individual providing the care, just as in any commercial hospital or clinic so you have good doctors and bad doctors, good nurses, bad nurses, good dentists, bad dentists, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

I, like you, do believe the VA could use some fixin' though. Particularly in their facilities and who is eligible for treatment and care. IMO, and only IMO, any and all veterans, able bodied or disabled, deserve the treatment the VA was designed to offer even if it's only preventive care.

ISTM turning away a veteran because they are not "poor" is a slap in the face of a veteran who works and earns a fair income but is unable to pay for medical/dental insurance. To state only "poor" vets deserve VA care seems to border on declaring a defined caste system rather then basing benefits on service.

ps. Welcome to DPF

Reverend_Hellh0und

Let me rephrase that.


You have the means to get your own much better health care. Why would you want to get free healthcare that is often substandard and add your body to the already overburdened VA? If it's the poor vets you, I, and obama are worried about, why would you put your load on the VA?

Reverend_Hellh0und

So this should be retroactive?


And 4 years of service in a non-combat area you should get free healthcare for life?


That would be one hell of an incentive.