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Old 07-16-08, 08:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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are you poor? I think he is giving access to the poor.


if you are not poor then be like me (who has free VA benefits) run run away from the VA..... It usually goes better at the DMV
So the poor deserve VA benefits and those who are not poor do not...got it.
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Old 07-16-08, 09:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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So the poor deserve VA benefits and those who are not poor do not...got it.


According to Obama it would seem so.


Why would you who have the means want to burden the VA?
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Old 07-16-08, 11:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
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uhm yell at obama, i took exactly what was off his website. plus he makes no mention of doing what shuamort outlines on his website. sorry.


prove i deliberatley left out facts.
Now here's some interesting food for thought. At the bottom of most of his policy pages he has a pdf file with exhaustive details on his policies. It'd be easier to discuss policy with you if you actually read up on it before you attacked it, instead of the abbreviated blurbs on the main page.
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Old 07-16-08, 11:25 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Now here's some interesting food for thought. At the bottom of most of his policy pages he has a pdf file with exhaustive details on his policies. It'd be easier to discuss policy with you if you actually read up on it before you attacked it, instead of the abbreviated blurbs on the main page.


It would be nice for once if you all stopped whining and bitching about every little thing in an obama thread and discussed the issue.


This is getting old.
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It would be nice for once if you all stopped whining and bitching about every little thing in an obama thread and discussed the issue.


This is getting old.
It's harder to debate the issue when there's so much false premises and confusion from you not doing your homework. Case in point the beginning of the thread when you didn't know that only certain vets currently didn't have benefits. If you did your homework, you'd know that.

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Why would you who have the means want to burden the VA?
Don't you agree that letting low-income vets use the VA is a good idea? I think that its our duty as a country to make sure they do.
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It's harder to debate the issue when there's so much false premises and confusion from you not doing your homework. Case in point the beginning of the thread when you didn't know that only certain vets currently didn't have benefits. If you did your homework, you'd know that.

You do know that the majority of vets are not eligible for the VA right?


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Don't you agree that letting low-income vets use the VA is a good idea? I think that its our duty as a country to make sure they do.
This is not the scope of this thread. Obama stated all vets then named low income vets. This is the issue.
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You do know that the majority of vets are not eligible for the VA right?
And why is that? And don't you agree that more should be eligable should they choose to use the system?


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This is not the scope of this thread. Obama stated all vets then named low income vets. This is the issue.
So why don't you read the "plan" page to clarify? I'd post exerpts for you, but they're in PDF and my work computer can't open PDFs.
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And why is that? And don't you agree that more should be eligable should they choose to use the system?

So you concede the point.


Good.


Do you think that everyone who serves just 4 years in a non-combat role deserves free healthcare more than you?



Or is this just an example of your's and obama's "incrimentalism"?

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So why don't you read the "plan" page to clarify? I'd post exerpts for you, but they're in PDF and my work computer can't open PDFs.

I am going by whats he put on his website. If I am wrong about what he posted and I cut and pasted from his website, or if he what he says on his website is not right, it is up to you to show me.
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So you concede the point.


Good.
Honestly, I don't even understand what it is exactly we're arguing about except that you're quibbling over semantics on the man's webpage and you refuse to look at the clarification.

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Do you think that everyone who serves just 4 years in a non-combat role deserves free healthcare more than you?
Isn't it one of the things we promise upon signing up?

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Or is this just an example of your's and obama's "incrimentalism"?
What do you mean exactly.


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I am going by whats he put on his website. If I am wrong about what he posted and I cut and pasted from his website, or if he what he says on his website is not right, it is up to you to show me.
Or you could do your own homework and stop being to obtuse. I swear, you don't want to actually debate, you're just looking for things to bitch about Obama on, regardless of veracity.
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Honestly, I don't even understand what it is exactly we're arguing about except that you're quibbling over semantics on the man's webpage and you refuse to look at the clarification.


Isn't it one of the things we promise upon signing up?

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What do you mean exactly.

By getting this group healthcare, then that group, then the next group. Instead being honest about intentions Obama is positioning to put as many citizens on the government teat he can.


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Or you could do your own homework and stop being to obtuse. I swear, you don't want to actually debate, you're just looking for things to bitch about Obama on, regardless of veracity.


I posted what is on his website. You are telling me its wrong, and providing no evidence to back up your claim and you call me out for being "obtuse"?


Why is it you obama supporters fight tooth and nail to not discuss the issues?
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