Ethereal

What costs could the taxpayer conceivably assume for a purely voluntary program? Obviously there would be some administrative and logistical neccessities but I don't see this as your average liberal bueracracy-type program. Once again, I could be wrong, and I'm certainly wary of government programs, but this one seems to be quite limited in scope and application.

It depends. Libertarianism is not anarchism. We believe in minumal government, not no government. As long as it falls within a Constitutional mandate I feel it is appropriate.

Reverend_Hellh0und

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "


Not the scope of the federal governmet.


However as a libertarian you should know there is no such thing as a free lunch and the ONLY volunteers would be you and I.




Does this?

I don't see how it does.

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Reverend_Hellh0und

very nice... I have the Scorpion street extreme, Penske double adjustable, Traxxion dynamics front end springs, dampers, and emulators, Plus obviously some appearence mods.

Its not the fastest (it'l get to 60 in 3.5 seconds so its plenty fast), but i enjoy the twisties and not much the way I have it set up does it better.

We are doing a WV trip in aug and the dragon in sept.

Ethereal

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. How does the government enlisting the help of volunteers controvert libertarian philosophy or imbue said program with an authority exceeding its Constitutional mandate?

rsixing

As naked bikes go yours is very nice. Have you had much experience with sport bike riding? If not I can recommend a few books which address the fundamentals,. beginning, intermediate and advanced, of riding these "corvettes" of motorcycles.

Of course reading in no way replaces experience but applying the advanced skills of sport bike riding isn't always a physical thing, as our abilities will never surpass the ability of the bike. But being taught how to choose lines, proper braking techniques, how to get lean, posture, etc. can be added to our repertoire through reading and then applying to our skills.

Oh, and my bike will do 0-60 in 2.9 secs on a perfect day. I've had it up to 161 mph and that was not being able to tuck completely since I had a tankbag and saddlebags on. What. A. Rush. I look forward to being able to find the top-end of this 600. I have a track day at Portland International Raceway in August but the straight isn't long enough to get total top end but that won't stop me from pushing.

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I read "volunteer" as "not drafted" when reading that. Like how people volunteer for military service versus being drafted. I guess he could have meant free but I'd have to look more into the details of the plan to see whether he was implying unpaid or simply not-forced.

Lerxst

Actually it's a very sound and viable strategy for what it is. I have sat on a regional homeland security oversight committee for the last two years. During that time I have traveled quite a bit and been educated on the current plans for homeland security across the nation. One of the main resources we have are volunteers. Yes, they consist of doctors, nurses, veterinarians, business executives, project managers, legal experts, skilled trade workers, agricultural specialists, etc...you name it. In our region of the state alone we have a force of about 150+ professionals we can draw from. Volunteer organizations are a huge part of the homeland security paradigm now. What he is talking about doing is extending that somewhat.

It's very reasonable to believe we could draw up 25,000 from across the nation who would be willing to volunteer for a short stint to do something to help. Besides, in most cases while the federal government won't pay a salary they will pay for many expenses. I see this more as an emergency type of thing, very limited duration (think two to three weeks at most).

Bottom line, there are still many people willing to volunteer to help out.

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Lerxst

The government has a very aggressive campaign to standardize coordination of major incidents where resource management becomes a necessity. It's called NIMS (National Incident Management System). All levels of local, state, and federal government are being trained to follow a standardized incident management format right down to the forms. It streamlines the processes and transitions. It's not fullproof and certainly has it's issues but it's much better than anything we have ever had.

And FEMA falls under Homeland Security. And in my opinion the Department of Homeland Security was a massive wasted of taxpayer dollars. The Bush administration simply added layers of government and bureaucracy to an already overtaxed and underfunded group of agencies that simply needed more coordination and information sharing in order to accomplish the goals DHS was set out to meet.

Reverend_Hellh0und

I have moved this discussion:

here (The DP "cool guy" Motorcycle thread.)

Reverend_Hellh0und

So are we to expand NIMS to include volunteers. or keep it, FEMA, and HS and add a whole nother big bloated beuracracy?