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Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-21-08, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffMerriman

Actually it's a very sound and viable strategy for what it is. I have sat on a regional homeland security oversight committee for the last two years. During that time I have traveled quite a bit and been educated on the current plans for homeland security across the nation. One of the main resources we have are volunteers. Yes, they consist of doctors, nurses, veterinarians, business executives, project managers, legal experts, skilled trade workers, agricultural specialists, etc...you name it. In our region of the state alone we have a force of about 150+ professionals we can draw from. Volunteer organizations are a huge part of the homeland security paradigm now. What he is talking about doing is extending that somewhat.

It's very reasonable to believe we could draw up 25,000 from across the nation who would be willing to volunteer for a short stint to do something to help. Besides, in most cases while the federal government won't pay a salary they will pay for many expenses. I see this more as an emergency type of thing, very limited duration (think two to three weeks at most).

Bottom line, there are still many people willing to volunteer to help out.

I have no problems with volunteers. I have a huge problem with yet another beuracracy.

Lerxst · 07-21-08, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

So are we to expand NIMS to include volunteers. or keep it, FEMA, and HS and add a whole nother big bloated beuracracy?

NIMS already includes volunteers. There is just no function for extending this to an overseas venture I don't believe.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-21-08, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffMerriman

NIMS already includes volunteers.

So is Obama gonna create a new 2nd volunteer plan or expand this one?

Lerxst · 07-21-08, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

So is Obama gonna create a new 2nd volunteer plan or expand this one?

Edited my post. NIMS is not an organization, it's a management plan. What I was getting at is that the concept of pulling together professional resources, paid or otherwise, in a major incident...this includes a very active volunteer community that contains professionally skilled persons.

I would imagine this would amount to a new program at the federal level, somewhere within DHS. Let's be honest though, there is no free lunch here, and given our governments ability to do anything with any semblance of fiscal responsibility I know this would be very difficult to pull off on the cheap. However, the concept is sound and has merit. Execution is a different story.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-21-08, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffMerriman

Edited my post. NIMS is not an organization, it's a management plan. What I was getting at is that the concept of pulling together professional resources, paid or otherwise, in a major incident...this includes a very active volunteer community that contains professionally skilled persons.

I thought so.

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I would imagine this would amount to a new program at the federal level, somewhere within DHS. Let's be honest though, there is no free lunch here, and given our governments ability to do anything with any semblance of fiscal responsibility I know this would be very difficult to pull off on the cheap. However, the concept is sound and has merit. Execution is a different story.

no there is no free lunch, and each state should have a method developed on thier own for such things. not another bigger government progra,m.

DivineComedy · 07-21-08, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Defense

Do you see this actually happening, and what pitfalls might be found when he tries to implement this?

From the link:

"Restore Honesty, Openness, and Commonsense to Contracting and Procurement"

I am confused, is this topic about the government coordinating volunteers to do "good," which would require more than a FEMA assigned liaison, or volunteering though bean counting our military procurement of bouncing dam busting bombs...to give away our plans in a time of war?

"Develop Whole of Government Initiatives to Promote Global Stability"
Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Defense

"Integrate Military and Civilian Efforts: An Obama administration will build up the capacity of each non-Pentagon agency to deploy personnel and area experts where they are needed, to help move soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines out of civilian roles."

What does that have to do with "Global Stability?"