Reverend_Hellh0und

maybe someday obama supporters will show some substance instead of this constant peurile nitpicking deflection technuiqe....

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the makeout hobo

What we have isn't enough. It makes more sense to be able to organize volunteers on a large scale basis, so they can be of even more use, than just using what we have. Why shouldn't we at least try to organize as many volunteers as we can? The current youth generation is a civic generation, and volunteer rates are at an all time high.

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rsixing

We need as many groups of volunteers as we can get. I mean, really rev, can you put a number limit on volunteers? I don't think so.

I think the correlation between our nation and our volunteers, when responding to domestic and international crisis', is a no-brainer; a good thing.

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Hatuey

Did you not say that Obama's plan for defense was people working for free? If I say McCain's plan for healthcare is insurance companies screwing Americans with impunity am I being honest? Obviously not. Your title is deceitful. It takes ONE point of a multi point plan and labels it as Obama's entire plan.

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Ethereal

On the surface this seems to be a good idea. Indeed, it is in the same spirit as the core libertarian ideology that society is best served by the involvement of private citizens as oppossed to agencies which consist purely of government employees. I see no reason why we shouldn't augment our government's ability to deal with disasters by utilizing the expertise of private citizens; especially those who do so out of a desire to render assisstance unto their fellow man.

Reverend_Hellh0und

Same spirit, but the exact opposite of the libertarian ideology no?

Reverend_Hellh0und

I clearly stated in the 1st sentence that "IN Obama's plan" which indicates it is not. nor have I ever lead one to believe that in this thread.


But thank you for proving my point. Typical Obama supporter, hiding from the issues.

Reverend_Hellh0und

Yes we can. There is such a thing as too many volunteers.

Take a look at NOLO, a lack of volunteers was not the issue. They turned people back. Remember the news telling people NOT to go there to help?


I don't think another government program is the answer. I think it will be FEMA II, and just as effective.


And why can't FEMA (remember what the M stands for?) MANAGE these volunteers?

Well simple, cause then Obama can't pretend he's doing something

Reverend_Hellh0und

So let the Federal emergency MANAGMENT agency handle it.


But I think this is something that should be done at a local level, like Volunteer FD. Not a massive government suckling pig.

the makeout hobo

That's because there wasn't enough organization to harness their energy. My best friend went to NOLA after the storm and he told me that the Red Cross didn't have the staff to handle all the volunteers.

FEMA was very effective under Clinton. It stopped being effective when George Bush appointed a man to run it that had no background in disaster relief. It all depends on who is running the show.

Look at NOLA again. FEMA was so busy managing everything else, like the evacuaees, that they didn't have the resouces to spend on managing volunteers that they needed.

You yourself said there was a problem with too many volunteers in NOLA. This makes much more sense than turning them back.

Whos going to coordinate all the volunteer FDs?