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Old 07-14-08, 12:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I thought Obama was pro military.....My bad.........The Obama campaign said there was scheduling program but the vets said they could schedule it any time.......

Wake up America: Barack Obama Refuses To Attend Townhall Style Event With Military Members And Veterans

Posted: 12 Jul 2008 10:45 AM CDT

The New York Times reports that a coalition of military groups are planning a nationally televised event, which CBS has agreed to broadcast, for both presidential candidates. John McCain accepted but the planners cannot get Barack Obama to commit.

The event would be a townhall style at the Expo Center in Belton, Texas, which is near Fort Hood, Texas, which is the largest active-duty military base in the country.

The organizers for this event are American Veterans, Disabled American Veterans, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Veterans for Common Sense and Military Spouse Corporate Career Network. Recently the FRA joined with the the 2008 Fort Hood Presidential Town Hall Consortium.

CBS has agreed to broadcast the meeting live from 9 to 11 p.m. Eastern time on Monday, Aug. 11. The candidates would face questions directly from an audience of 6,000 people, made up of veterans, service members and military families from the base.

The Obama campaign cited scheduling conflicts are their reason for not agreeing to attend.

Phillip Carter who is the director of Obama’s veterans effort and an Iraq war veteran, said, "Senator Obama strongly supports America’s veterans and military families and has worked hard on their behalf in the Senate. While we unfortunately had a previously scheduled commitment on the date proposed, Senator Obama looks forward to continuing the dialogue he’s been having throughout the country with veterans on how we can better serve our men and women in uniform as they serve us.”

The organizers then made it clear they would adjust their scheduling to accommodate Obamas, and even with that offer, the Obama campaign is refusing to commit.

According to the managing director of the Fort Hood Presidential Town Hall Consortium, Carissa Picard, who is a military wife herself with a husband that is deployed in Iraq, she has had several conversations with the Obama campaign with no success and she goes on to state, "I’m having extreme difficulty getting the Obama campaign to commit to this event, and we do not understand why. We made it very clear to them that if they would commit to the event, we would work with them on dates.”

Fort Hood houses approximately 218,000 people which include active-duty military members, retired military members and families of military members.

Picard tells the new York Times that the decision to go public with these plans and the difficulties they have been having getting Obama to commit, was not easy but that they could see no other way to pressure him into attending, going on to say, "We were at a point where we had no other option. We got the impression that they could talk us to November.”

The article point out that while many might assume that a military audience would be overly friendly to McCain and not to Obama, many of those at Fort Hood have been hit hard by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, with an estimated 800 members of the service that have died in Iraq, having at one point gone through the Fort Hood base, and that many agree with Obama's position that the war must end.

Picard goes on to say, "McCain and Obama are asking to be the next commander in chief. What’s a more compelling audience than this, the people that you have asked to maintain our security? It would be tremendous for the morale of this community."

According to organizers of this planned event, the military and their families consist of about 44 million people.



That is a very large voting bloc.
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Old 07-14-08, 06:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am shocked none of you Obama supporters don't have a comment about this........Could it be that Obama has a yellow strike down his back and does not want to face a bunch of patriotic Americans?
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Well I don't know anything about the particular groups hosting this. Are they fairly mainstream, non-partisan groups? Or are they right-wingnuts like the American Legion and VFW? If it's the latter, I can understand why Obama doesn't want to participate; there are no votes to gain by participating. If it's the former, he's probably just holding out to extract some concession from McCain. If they're going to do a format that plays to McCain's strengths, Obama probably wants McCain to agree to a format that plays to Obama's strengths.
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Well I don't know anything about the particular groups hosting this. Are they fairly mainstream, non-partisan groups? Or are they right-wingnuts like the American Legion and VFW? If it's the latter, I can understand why Obama doesn't want to participate; there are no votes to gain by participating. If it's the former, he's probably just holding out to extract some concession from McCain. If they're going to do a format that plays to McCain's strengths, Obama probably wants McCain to agree to a format that plays to Obama's strengths.
They are the American military and their supporters who he wants to gain command of.

McCain went on Ellen's show and told her he opposes Gay marriage.

Obama can't bear to do the equivalent because it could easily put a serious kink in his plans.
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They are the American military and their supporters who he wants to gain command of.

McCain went on Ellen's show and told her he opposes Gay marriage.

Obama can't bear to do the equivalent because it could easily put a serious kink in his plans.
You think that participating in a nationally-televised debate that is geared toward your opponent's strength (without extracting any concession in return) is the equivalent of going on Ellen's show?
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You think that participating in a nationally-televised debate that is geared toward your opponent's strength (without extracting any concession in return) is the equivalent of going on Ellen's show?
Let me get this straight.

You are more concerned with Obama's appearing at a disadvantage rather than trying to find who will have the best qualifications to lead this country?

WINNING ISN'T EVERYTHING.

Apart from those actually involved in the campaigns, it should be OUR job to want to expose any weakness possible in the two candidates so that we get the clearest possible picture of what we are getting for the next four years.

Your argument reminds me of the person who liked the idea of helping Yugoslavia's economy and liked the idea of an inexpensive car and so you committed to wanting to buy a Yugo. And when people pointed out to you that for the same amount of money you could get a MUCH better and more reliable USED American, Japanese, German or Korean car you mounted a spirited defense of the terribly made vehicle.

You are arguing against your own best interests in defending Obama's avoidance of such a venue.

I'll bet you wouldn't permit a serious romantic partner to avoid even partial pre-marital intimacy with you before you proposed marriage.

Why not?

Because you want to make sure of what you are getting before you commit.

So why would you make excuses for Obama to avoid the questions or comments or reactions of a military audience? It would be the last time they would have a chance to express their feelings or thoughts before he was, hypothetically, elected.

You know he is weak on the military aspests of his policies. That's why you'd support his hiding them from the public.

But we are at war, dammit!

For him to dodge a military venue is just plain unacceptable and it reeks of cowardice.

If he can't face Americans in regards to the war how in the hell do you expect he will act when it comes to dealing with Ahmadinejad or Hamas?

Obama is ill suited for the job.

He isn't ready.

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Except that this isn't what happened at all here in this thread....
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It's exactly what happens in every thread Navy makes ever. His very signature is a link to the arch-"you hate the troops" swift boats.
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It's exactly what happens in every thread Navy makes ever. His very signature is a link to the arch-"you hate the troops" swift boats.
So your grand design was to what? Preempt him and make it a "why do you hate the troops" thread?


That makes sense....
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