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Barak obama bringing the Chicago Daly machine to the Whitehouse

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This what brought up before. What do you think of all this connection an back patting between the Daly machine and Obama's campaign, including the stocking of staffers from the daly admin on obama's staff?

Is this the "hope, and change" we were expecting?


American Thinker Blog: A Chicago Operation from Top to Bottom


While the convention will be held in Denver it will give off the greatest Chicago cast since 1996, when Mayor Daley hosted the convention that nominated President Clinton for his second term. The June decision to place operations of the Democratic National Committee in Chicago together with Mr. Obama's headquarters reinforces the Windy City's dominance of Democratic politics. The big question is whether American voters will notice.


Mr. Obama has run successfully as a candidate of reform. A former community organizer, he fills his rhetoric with references to "a new and better day" and the omnipresent imperative of "change." In South Carolina last January Mr. Obama said, "we're looking to fundamentally change the status quo in Washington."


For the junior Illinois senator, change in Washington is a requirement. But that does not seem to be the case for Chicago, as it seems from Mr. Obama's support for Chicago's mayor who has been in power since 1989. Mr. Obama announced his support of the mayor's reelection effort in January 2007 after Mr. Daley, endorsed him for president in 2006.

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The reality is that without Mr. Daley's backing, Mr. Obama would be running a very different kind of campaign. Part of the tactical genius for Mr. Obama's campaign has been provided by his campaign consultant, David Axelrod, who also is a longtime operative in Mr. Daley's operation.


A columnist with the Chicago Tribune, John Kass, explained the arrangement in an interview with CNN: "Richard M. Daley is the boss of [the] Chicago Machine. His spokesman was David Axelrod. Their candidate is Barack Obama. Who speaks for Barack Obama? David Axelrod. There's no such thing as coincidences. Chicago politics doesn't have coincidences."


As far as coincidences go, there's also the woman Newsweek described as the campaign's "insider-outsider, a trusted friend who can give them a view from beyond the confines of the campaign bubble," Valerie Jarrett. Ms. Jarrett served as the planning and development commissioner for Mayor Daley during the 1990s. Today, in addition to being a confidante of Mr. Obama and his wife, she's also the chief executive of Habitat Co., which has drawn scrutiny for managing uninhabitable affordable housing, such as the Grove Parc Plaza complex.
 
This what brought up before. What do you think of all this connection an back patting between the Daly machine and Obama's campaign, including the stocking of staffers from the daly admin on obama's staff?

Is this the "hope, and change" we were expecting?


American Thinker Blog: A Chicago Operation from Top to Bottom

Vague accusation from a right wing blog? Got it. You're always complaining that Obama supporters don't discuss issues. What's an issue that you'd like to discuss? Anything's better than this tripe you troll from the darkest deeps of the internet.
 
Vague accusation from a right wing blog? Got it. You're always complaining that Obama supporters don't discuss issues. What's an issue that you'd like to discuss? Anything's better than this tripe you troll from the darkest deeps of the internet.

If you don't like this thread on obama I have 30 more. Several very issue oriented. You are free to post there...


BTW are you denying that obama's campaign is staffed with Daley regulars?
 
The Daley machine would require a time machine to be brought to the white house.

Survey Saaaaays....


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Boss Daley's son, Richard M Daley, is the current and second longest-serving mayor of Chicago.

That's a legacy that's still goin strong. Wanna try again?
 
no it's not. Democratic machine politics are dead, they've been dead since the New Left in the 60s. They live on as pathetic ghosts of themselves in certain large cities, however Tameney hall is dead.

I admit that Chicago is one of those cities, however the Cook County machine that gave Kennedy the election in 60 is dead. Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Detroit are the only major cities that operate under any kind of similar political regime- but it is very different today. The main difference is in inclusion of race- the old labor regimes that founded those party machines were (and continue to be) notoriously racist and insular (how many carpenters in Philadelphia aren't Italian or Irish? That'd be none.) and when blacks finally became a real force in urban politics (through overcoming the racist tyranny of mayors like Daley sr. and Frank Rizzo) it permanently altered the American urban political landscape.

Both the Boston and New York machines have irreversibly crumbled- two of the 60s most loyal bulwarks of labor politics. The Philly, Baltimore and Detroit machines have completely succumbed to race politics and Chicago clings on, slowly sinking further into a similar political regime every year. It's actually something to be celebrated- the Democrats who used to march with "bomb Hanoi" signs have been almost totally deposed and marginalized.

70s urban America was as close to the Wiemar Republic then any other point in the United States history. City's all over the country panicked under the weight of decline and race tension into electing "petite fascists" like the notorious Daley, or Philadelphia's "il duce" Frank Rizzo. On the left the hippies began upsetting established neighborhood patterns through the nascent movements of gentrification and race consciousness exploded onto the political landscape with an unbelievable force. Race riots shook every American between 1965 and 1975- most visibly and violent in 1968 after MLK's death.

And, just like in Germany, the white working class blundered into reactionary behavior and hid behind monsters like Daley. However, unlike in Germany, the white working class had an alternative to the increasingly alien and liberal urban culture- suburbia. And so, while the brief era of reaction was miserable and violent, it ultimately collapsed because people who hated "blacks, hippies, fags, etc." could more easily just move to surrounding white, straight, conservative (or blue collar conservative) suburbs then join street gangs and help Daley fight his street war.

And that's the point. The white urban blue collar is either dead or marginalized- and they are the kind of people that create the Daley machine- not "upper West Side Jacobins" (as LBJ, who himself had more then a little bit of the blue collar reactionary thought in him) called the other half of the liberal movement.
 
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no it's not. Democratic machine politics are dead, they've been dead since the New Left in the 60s. They live on as pathetic ghosts of themselves in certain large cities, however Tameney hall is dead.

I admit that Chicago is one of those cities, however the Cook County machine that gave Kennedy the election in 60 is dead. Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Detroit are the only major cities that operate under any kind of similar political regime- but it is very different today. The main difference is in inclusion of race- the old labor regimes that founded those party machines were (and continue to be) notoriously racist and insular (how many carpenters in Philadelphia aren't Italian or Irish? That'd be none.) and when blacks finally became a real force in urban politics (through overcoming the racist tyranny of mayors like Daley sr. and Frank Rizzo) it permanently altered the American urban political landscape.

Both the Boston and New York machines have irreversibly crumbled- two of the 60s most loyal bulwarks of labor politics. The Philly, Baltimore and Detroit machines have completely succumbed to race politics and Chicago clings on, slowly sinking further into a similar political regime every year. It's actually something to be celebrated- the Democrats who used to march with "bomb Hanoi" signs have been almost totally deposed and marginalized.

70s urban America was as close to the Wiemar Republic then any other point in the United States history. City's all over the country panicked under the weight of decline and race tension into electing "petite fascists" like the notorious Daley, or Philadelphia's "il duce" Frank Rizzo. On the left the hippies began upsetting established neighborhood patterns through the nascent movements of gentrification and race consciousness exploded onto the political landscape with an unbelievable force. Race riots shook every American between 1965 and 1975- most visibly and violent in 1968 after MLK's death.

And, just like in Germany, the white working class blundered into reactionary behavior and hid behind monsters like Daley. However, unlike in Germany, the white working class had an alternative to the increasingly alien and liberal urban culture- suburbia. And so, while the brief era of reaction was miserable and violent, it ultimately collapsed because people who hated "blacks, hippies, fags, etc." could more easily just move to surrounding white, straight, conservative (or blue collar conservative) suburbs then join street gangs and help Daley fight his street war.

And that's the point. The white urban blue collar is either dead or marginalized- and they are the kind of people that create the Daley machine- not "upper West Side Jacobins" (as LBJ, who himself had more then a little bit of the blue collar reactionary thought in him) called the other half of the liberal movement.

Yes. The Kennedy "machine" is dead. That's why every candidate for president scrambles for that endorsement.
 
Did you read my post at all? The Kennedy family may still be alive but it represents an entirely different political entity then the reactionary labor groups of the 60s.
 
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