| US Elections Christian conservative leaders unify behind McCain, adopt statement with common goals; Originally Posted by RightOfCenter
His story is really the only bad one I've heard about VA hospitals. But I ... |
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Originally Posted by RightOfCenter His story is really the only bad one I've heard about VA hospitals. But I don't really know that many people that go to them. | I know a lot of vets that go the VA. They are glad for the health care but their experiences are not that great. |
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Originally Posted by Navy Pride Christian Conservatives coming around.........I don't think they care much for butchery in the womb and gay marriage............ | Naw, they prefer butchery in the regular world and stomping on peoples' rights.
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Originally Posted by RightOfCenter Well, I'm in the military and I've never been shafted on health care, but perhaps you're talking about Walter Reid? | Perhaps you've never needed mental medical care?
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Being pro-death penalty and being pro-life is a consistent non-contradictory
position.
When a society extends the death penalty for murder, the the price of a life is given the highest possible value. If you take a life, you pay the highest price, by cashing in your own.
When a society gives 15-years to life for murder. The value that that society has put on one life is 15-to-life in jail. So a non-death penalty scenario, a human life could be worth as little as 15 years in jail.
Life is precious, whether it's the unborn, or somebody who was murdered; both need and should be defended IMO. Murderers have no regard for the value of their own life or the lives of others, yet they have a possession (their life) that should be treated as capital when they make the choice to "purchase" someone else's.
People who are pro-life and pro-death penalty are those who place the highest possible value on human life.
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Current Mood: | Re: Christian conservative leaders unify behind McCain, adopt statement with common g I'd like to take a moment to express how completely worthless I think the Libertarian movement has become, if I may.
You people (you know who you are), are so busy wringing your COLLECTIVE hands, day and night, waiting like some phony Paul Revere for the re-emergence of the Anglican church & tithe. So much so, that you seemingly completely over-look the very real ideological state that America is quickly becoming where all power is centralized and the decisions for the many are being made more and more by fewer and fewer.
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Originally Posted by Navy Pride Christian Conservatives coming around.........I don't think they care much for butchery in the womb and gay marriage............ | I don't know if they are "coming around". I mean really, do you think for a moment that a Christian conservative would honestly either vote for a Democrat, or not vote at all? I think that they'll vote for McCain despite their personal views on his candidacy, simply because voting for the other option is much worse for them.
They may see eye to eye on abortion, and although McCain and Christian conservatives both oppose gay marriage, McCain will block a Constitutional Amendment. And that's where you'll see this alliance end in my opinion, should marriage equality still be in place in California come December. My guess is that if McCain wins the election and marriage equality is upheld in that state, you'll see Christian conservatives clamoring for a Constitutional Amendment. And I really think McCain will shoot it down, leading to a lot of pissed-off conservatives.
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Originally Posted by The silenced majority For the record:
Being pro-death penalty and being pro-life is a consistent non-contradictory
position.
When a society extends the death penalty for murder, the the price of a life is given the highest possible value. If you take a life, you pay the highest price, by cashing in your own.
When a society gives 15-years to life for murder. The value that that society has put on one life is 15-to-life in jail. So a non-death penalty scenario, a human life could be worth as little as 15 years in jail.
Life is precious, whether it's the unborn, or somebody who was murdered; both need and should be defended IMO. Murderers have no regard for the value of their own life or the lives of others, yet they have a possession (their life) that should be treated as capital when they make the choice to "purchase" someone else's.
People who are pro-life and pro-death penalty are those who place the highest possible value on human life. | Wow! Although I am against the death penalty personally, that was very well-said. |
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07-06-08, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Singularity Wow! Although I am against the death penalty personally, that was very well-said. | I figured you may give me hell for that.   |
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Originally Posted by The silenced majority I figured you may give me hell for that.   | Hmm. Ok, on the next thread where we meet, it's on like Donkey Kong, lol!
EDIT: I can't believe I just used the phrase "it's on like Donkey Kong"! 
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