Obama Campaign: "We need more white people" - Page 3

WI Crippler · 07-02-08, 01:27 PM

Oohh, I want to go to an Obama rally now. I played alot of basketball on outdoor courts, and was always picked near the end because of my skin color. I want retribution

I wish I could still fit into my Service "C" uniform. That would get me a seat right behind him for sure. I would probably be doing alot of this though....

Arcana XV · 07-02-08, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

What other campaigns do does not excuse Obama. Any campaign that does this is wrong. Why is it that Obama supporters must always point the finger elsewhere?

I haven't passed judgement on anyone. And I'm not an "Obama supporter", seeing as I can't even vote for him. All I'm saying is that, in my opinion, this kind of thing is part of every campaign strategy. If we were privy to everything these people try to manipulate so the candidate looks a certain way for the cameras, I'm betting we would find a lot worse things than merely handpicking a couple of people in the audience.

Navy Pride · 07-02-08, 01:49 PM

Make no mistake about it this election will be decided on race.....Obama will get 95% of the black vote and 25% of the white vote although a lot of white people will tell the exit pollers they voted for Obama when in reality they voted for McCain..........That is why there is a good chance that Obama could lose big if that happens..............

Alex · 07-02-08, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

Why must anti-Obama people always demonize him for the pragmatic SOP for getting elected. It sounds like, "Waaa, We're losing." Seriously, it's no secret that they have to go after every vote. Campaigning to win does not mean that he won't bring change when he governs.

No one here is complaining about Obama being elected. The issue is Obama's racist methods to get elected.

the makeout hobo · 07-02-08, 04:16 PM

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No one here is complaining about Obama being elected. The issue is Obama's racist methods to get elected.

Who is he racist against for putting additional white people in front of the camera?

Alex · 07-02-08, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the makeout hobo

Who is he racist against for putting additional white people in front of the camera?

He is making decisions based on race, that is the definition of "racist." It is racism on everyone involved.

the makeout hobo · 07-02-08, 04:32 PM

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He is making decisions based on race, that is the definition of "racist." It is racism on everyone involved.

No, "racism" is "holding preconceived notions of a person based on their race". What he is doing could be referred to as racial preference, but not racism.

I also have a quick hypothetical question for you, alex. Imagine, you're a handler for the Obama campaign. You know that your candidate is still weak among white voters, and that smears have been circulating around that he's racist against white people. Would you just let him have an entirely minority group behind him, or would you make sure that the group he's accused of being racist against is properly represented? What would you do, handler alex?

Alex · 07-02-08, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the makeout hobo

No, "racism" is "holding preconceived notions of a person based on their race". What he is doing could be referred to as racial preference, but not racism.

I also have a quick hypothetical question for you, alex. Imagine, you're a handler for the Obama campaign. You know that your candidate is still weak among white voters, and that smears have been circulating around that he's racist against white people. Would you just let him have an entirely minority group behind him, or would you make sure that the group he's accused of being racist against is properly represented? What would you do, handler alex?

The "preconceived notion of a person based on their race" is that white people will bring in more votes. He made a decision based on race, it is racist.

Race = white
Preconceived notion = more votes

I would not pick and choose people based on race. I feel that is more damaging than letting the audience sit naturally.

the makeout hobo · 07-02-08, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

The "preconceived notion of a person based on their race" is that white people will bring in more votes. He made a decision based on race, it is racist.

Race = white
Preconceived notion = more votes

His preconceived notion that if he puts white people behind him he'll get more votes doesn't mean he has any preconeived notion about white people as a whole. All it shows is that his handlers are afraid that smears against him are sinking in and he needs to show white people he isn't racist.

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I would not pick and choose people based on race. I feel that is more damaging than letting the audience sit naturally.

You obviously don't know much about campaign dynamics.

Alex · 07-02-08, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by the makeout hobo

His preconceived notion that if he puts white people behind him he'll get more votes doesn't mean he has any preconeived notion about white people as a whole. All it shows is that his handlers are afraid that smears against him are sinking in and he needs to show white people he isn't racist.

You obviously don't know much about campaign dynamics.

So racism is alright in our government system as long as there are good reasons for it?

Race = white
Preconceived notion as a whole = more votes as a whole