Zyphlin

Ahh...

So republicans say "Obama wants to talk with people like Amadenejad in Iran and Syria" people complain that the GOP is using "Fear mongering" to make people think that Obama is a terrorist sympathizer.

But when democrats say "McCain's advisors have been involved in some way with [bad people." they somehow find it odd when people say that's fear tactics as well trying to give the impression McCain is the same as those kind of people.

There's nothing wrong with the ad, its a very useful political ad. But its no less fear mongering than many of the things republicans have put across in recent years.

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Hatuey

In other words you're not addressing what the ad says. Just what you want it to say. Which have nothing to do with fear mongering just McCain's ties to the very people he claims to be in full opposition of.


B.S. - The ad addresses an issue that McCain has been very vocal about. His opposition to lobbyist because of their unethical practices. Exposing the fact that he A) Hires lobbyists to run his campaign and that B) these lobbyists represent/represented the exact people McCain is supposedly going to lead us against in the future is a very valid point.

You're dishonestly misrepresenting the ad to say what you want it to say.

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Zyphlin

Which is exactly the same thing that liberals have been doing with a good portion of things they cry are "Fear mongering". That's my entire point Hautey.

Hatuey

How is fear mongering exposing the fact McCain is hiring the very people he claims to support? Do you even know what fear mongering is?

Example :

"If you put the Democrats in power, the terrorists win".

"Obama is a secret Muslim"

"McCain is an angry man, if he gets angry he might do something that isn't right for America"

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Now notice how none of those statements are really based on reality. This ad is based on McCain claiming to be opposed to one thing and then hiring the very people he claims to oppose.

ladyt28

Whats the matter? Upset that we learned a thing or two from ya'all? Let's see if it works as well against your candidate as conservatives efforts have in the past.

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The silenced majority

I agree with Hatuey.

I wouldn't call it fear-mongering as much as I'd call it pointing out how a particular politician is a total hypocrite.

Redress

The add looks to be factually correct, and somewhat over the top in it's imagery and suggestions. It would have been both more effective and less over the top to make a 30 second commercial(half the length of this one), that just listed all the lobbyists on his staff, and who they lobbied for, without the horror film music and overdone images.

The silenced majority

Why don't you get your facts straight?

Conservatives are hardly lining up in lock-step behind McCain.

Check the forum thread history before making indictments.

Zyphlin

Hi, you're new here, so I'm going to be nice and assume you just haven't read things.

McCain isn't "My candidate". I'm not a fan, nor am I supporting McCain.

Nor am I "upset" by the Ad. I think its an excellent ad to be honest.

What I'm laughing at is the hypocracy of many of the liberals who tout out the "fear mongering" card when republicans also say factual things such as "Hamas endorsed Obama", "Obama would like to have talks with terrorist supporters like Ahmadinejad" stating that they're trying to imply Obama is a terrorist.

I agree with you hautey on those things being Fear mongering type things. But there have been times in the past where Republican ad's or statements that may be "fear" motivated speak facts that point out something legitimate but people on the left try to paint it that they're trying to "Convince" people that if we vote in a liberal we'll get hit, or that obama is a terrorist in the subtext of the message.

AlbqOwl

It is the 'over the top in its imagery and suggestions' that makes the ad dishonest. Most people will not analyze the facts stated in the ad and evaluate those on their own merits--they will see only the insinuations and orchestrated implications and will not respond intellectually but with the a knee jerk negative emotional response that is fully intended by the ad maker.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if you could list all of McCain's 'objectionable' relationships and why they might be questionable along with all of Obama's 'objectional' relationships and why they might be questionable? And then do that with every single facet of the campaign process so that people could see everything side by side and make their judgments accordingly? Cut out the subliminal promotions targeted at the mindless, brainwashed, ignorant, and uneducated, and we might actually encourage most people to make an informed choice of who would be the best President.

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