Reverend_Hellh0und

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Obama's Top ten Lies (Fabrications)

http://www.gop.com/media/PDFs/040907Research3.pdf

#10: Obama Was A Constitutional Law Professor:

At A Recent Fundraiser, Obama Claimed He Was A "Constitutional Law Professor." "'I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution,' Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser." (Brendan Farrington, "Obama: Bush Fails To Respect The Constitution," The Associated Press, 3/30/07)

On The University Of Chicago Law School Website, Obama Is Listed As A "Senior Lecturer In Law (On Leave Of Absence)." (University Of Chicago Law School Website, view link Accessed 3/30/07)

Obama Made This False Claim In His 2004 Senate Race. "Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama's primary [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter." (Lynn Sweet, "Obama's Book: What's Real, What's Not" Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/04)

#9: Obama's Parents "Got Together" Because Of The 1965 Selma March:

In His Selma Speech, Obama Said His Parents "Got Together" And He Was Born As A Result Of The Selma March. Obama: "Because some folks were willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama, Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama." (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks At Brown Chapel AME Church, Selma, AL, 3/4/07)

"Earlier In The Day At A Prayer Breakfast, The Illinois Democrat Said: 'If It Hadn't Been For Selma, I Wouldn't Be Here.'" (Anne E. Kornblut and Peter Whoriskey, "Clinton, Obama Link Selma March To Present," The Washington Post, 3/5/07)

But Obama Was Born In 1961, 4 YEARS BEFORE The 1965 Selma March. "Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961." (Obama For America Website, Welcome to Obama for America, Accessed 3/6/07; Anne E. Kornblut and Peter Whoriskey, "Clinton, Obama Link Selma March To Present," The Washington Post, 3/5/07)

#8: Obama Was Fluent In Indonesian As A Child:

Obama's Claim That He Quickly Became Fluent In Indonesian As A Child Was Disputed By A Former Teacher. "Obama has claimed on numerous occasions to have become fluent in Indonesian in six months. Yet those who knew him disputed that during recent interviews. Israella Pareira Darmawan, Obama's 1st-grade teacher, said she attempted to help him learn the Indonesian language by going over pronunciation and vowel sounds. He struggled greatly with the foreign language, she said, and with his studies as a result." (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

#7: Obama Mistakenly Received A Letter From A Company In Which He Owned Stock:

"Obama Said At Some Point In Fall 2005 He Got A Stockholder Letter. He Said He Believes It Was From AVI Or Skyterra, But He Couldn't Remember Which Company." (Nedra Pickler, "Obama Unaware Of Investment Conflicts," The Associated Press, 3/7/07)

According To SEC Records, SkyTerra Did Not Send Investors Its SEC Proxy Forms In Fall 2005. "The origin of the shareholder update Obama referred to remains unclear. SkyTerra, like many public companies, sends investors copies of its Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) proxy forms, also known as 14As, but none were issued during the fall of 2005, according to SEC records." (Elana Schor, "2008 And Counting: Sen. Obama Pivots After Bad Press," The Hill, 3/8/07)

AVI Investor-Relations Director: "It Doesn't Sound Like Anything We Would Have Sent Out." "AVI generally sends mailings to shareholders or institutional investors that proactively request them or sign up for e-mail lists, said Michael Hubbard, AVI's investor-relations director. 'It doesn't sound like anything we would have sent out,' Hubbard said." (Elana Schor, "2008 And Counting: Sen. Obama Pivots After Bad Press," The Hill, 3/8/07)

#6: Obama's Campaign Only Had "Very Attenuated" Ties To The "1984" Ad Creator:

Obama Suggested That "1984" Ad Creator Phil De Vellis Was The Equivalent Of A Contract Employee And Therefore Could Not Be Held Responsible For His Conduct. "Thursday, Obama said of de Vellis that his campaign had no way of knowing who this person was.' 'If I have a phone contract with Verizon and an employee of a phone company does something that you know … we're not responsible for that,' Obama said." (Jake Tapper and Jonathan Greenberger, "Anti-Clinton Ad Maker Lived With Obama Senate Staffer," ABC News, 3/23/07)

De Vellis Is An Employee Of Blue State Digital, A Computer Firm Consulting For Obama. "Obama's campaign says it had no role in creating or posting the ad. But Wednesday, Democratic operative Philip de Vellis took credit for the ad. It turned out that he worked for Blue State Digital, a computer firm that is among Obama's consultants." (Dan Morain, "Ad Creator Claimed Role In Obama Campaign," Los Angeles Times, 3/23/07)

Joe Rospars, A Co-Founder Of Blue State Digital, Is Now Obama's Director Of New Media. "Blue State helped design Obama's Web site, and one of the firm's founding members, Joe Rospars, took a leave from the company to work as Obama's director of new media." (Jim Kuhnhenn, "Anti-Clinton Ad Puts Spotlight On Obama," The Associated Press, 3/23/07)

"On Thursday, An Earlier E-Mail Surfaced In Which De Vellis Boasted To Numerous People About His Role In The Creation Of A Web Page, My.BarackObama. Com, A Site Designed By Blue State Digital." (Dan Morain, "Ad Creator Claimed Role In Obama Campaign," Los Angeles Times, 3/23/07)

Obama's Press Secretary Recently Lived With De Vellis, Undermining Obama's Previous Statements That His Campaign Had Only "Very Attenuated" Ties. "The press secretary for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., recently lived with the creator of the scathingly satirical YouTube video ad that attacked Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., a revelation that seems to undermine the senator's claim that he and his campaign had only 'very attenuated' ties with the ad's creator." (Jake Tapper and Jonathan Greenberger, "Anti-Clinton Ad Maker Lived With Obama Senate Staffer," ABC News, 3/23/07)

#5: Obama's Campaign Didn't Have The "Technical Capacity" To Produce The "1984" Ad:

Obama Claims Campaign Didn't Have The "Technical Capacity" To Create The Ad. Obama: "But it's not something that we had anything to do with or were aware of and that frankly, given what it looks like, we don't have the technical capacity to create something like that." (CNN's "Larry King Live," 3/24/07)

But The Creator Admitted All It Took Was A "Sunday Afternoon" On His Mac. Phillip de Vellis: "I made the ad on a Sunday afternoon in my apartment using my personal equipment (a Mac and some software), uploaded it to YouTube, and sent links around to blogs." (The Huffington Post, "I Made the "Vote Different" Ad," Posted By Phil De Vellis, view link Posted 3/21/07 )

#4: Obama's Campaign Claimed His High School Friend Tried To Extort Money From Them:

"According To The Obama Campaign, [Obama's Punahou Classmate Keith] Kakugawa Explicitly Raised The Possibility That He Could Make Up False Stories About Obama, Implying He Would Do So If The Campaign Did Not Give Him Money." (Maurice Possley, Kirsten Scharnberg and Ray Gibson, "An Old Friend's Troublesome Return," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

Kakugawa Was "Infuriated" By The Charge And Flatly Denied It. "That allegation infuriated Kakugawa, prompting him to speak to the Tribune after repeatedly refusing to do so. 'You must understand, I am not an extortionist,' he said in a telephone interview from Los Angeles, where he is living out of a car with an acquaintance after being released from a California prison on March 10. 'Listen, I'm homeless. ... I ask everyone I know for money.'" (Maurice Possley, et al, "An Old Friend's Troublesome Return," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

"Kakugawa Wouldn't Discuss His School Days With Obama Other Than To Say He Considered The Senator 'A Brother' And 'Wouldn't Do A Damn Thing To Ever Hurt His Campaign.'" (Maurice Possley, et al, "An Old Friend's Troublesome Return," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

#3: Obama Places Himself In The Central Role In The Altgeld Gardens Asbestos Campaign:

Obama "Unfairly Omits Others Responsible For The Successes Of The Asbestos Campaign." "And though most memoirs place their authors at the center of events, critics of Dreams From My Father say the book unfairly omits others responsible for the successes of the asbestos campaign, an event that Obama portrays as central to his maturation as a political leader." (Peter Wallsten, "Obama Memoir Left Out Credits For Activism, Critics Say," Los Angeles Times, 2/19/07)

"Obama Did Not Play The Singular Role In The Asbestos Episode." "They say Obama did not play the singular role in the asbestos episode that he portrays in the best-selling memoir 'Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.' Credit for pushing officials to deal with the cancer-causing substance, according to interviews and news accounts from that period, also goes to a well-known preexisting group at Altgeld Gardens and to a local newspaper called the Chicago Reporter. Obama does not mention either one in his book." (Peter Wallsten, "Obama Memoir Left Out Credits For Activism, Critics Say," Los Angeles Times, 2/19/07)

#2: Obama Had Heated Discussions With A High School Friend Named "Ray" About Racial Issues:

Although Obama Recounts "Heated Conversations About Racism" With A Character He Calls "Ray," The Real "Ray" Says It Never Happened. "In his best-selling autobiography, 'Dreams from My Father,' Obama describes having heated conversations about racism with another black student, 'Ray.' The real Ray, Keith Kakugawa . . . said he does recall long, soulful talks with the young Obama and that his friend confided his longing and loneliness. But those talks, Kakugawa said, were not about race. 'Not even close' . . ." (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

Obama Did Not Participate In Discussions On Race With His Fellow Black Classmates In High School. "The handful of black students who attended Punahou School in Hawaii, for instance, say they struggled mightily with issues of race and racism there. But absent from those discussions, they say, was another student then known as Barry Obama." (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

#1: Seeing A Photograph In Life Or Ebony Magazine Changed Obama's Life:

The Life Magazine Article And Photograph Obama Discusses "Doesn't Exist." "Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians." (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

Obama Volunteered It May Have Been Ebony Magazine, But No Such Ebony Article Matched Obama's Description. "When asked about the discrepancy, Obama said in a recent interview, 'It might have been an Ebony or it might have been ... who knows what it was?' (At the request of the Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled.)" (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, "The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama's Youth," Chicago Tribune, 3/25/07)

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the makeout hobo

Now I'd love to knock down all of your drivel, but I'm at work and don't have a lot of time, so this one'll do for now.



According to the UOC,

Not that I expect you to retract your claim or anything, just saying.

University of Chicago Law School > Media

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Reverend_Hellh0und

***yawn*** "Drivel" please I wouldn't want you to engage in political debate, that might be a strain on you.






When did this come out and if you read between the lines....

Is he a constitutional law professor? I don't see there response saying so other than saying that "senior lecturers" are "regarded" as professors.


Read between the lines man, they want to make him look good, but no other school or standard acedemic standards is he one.

the makeout hobo

Just so I have you straight... you are claiming Obama was not a professor, though UOC claims other wise? If we don't go by UOC's standard, whose should we go by?

Reverend_Hellh0und

Nah I a saying UOC is now stating he is, yet he wasn't called one on the website.


I consider myself a professor. Am I one?


As for who we should go by?


Isn't there some kind of accreditation or can we just call whoever we want professors.

I as a potential student would be upset to find out that all that money I paid to see a professor turned out to be a "non tenure tract" (this is key in the semantics game the UOC is playing) "Senior lecturer"




What do you think of the rest of the list?

the makeout hobo

Then the error was UOC's for not explaining their system well enough. But to try to reflect that upon Obama is deceitful. The UOC has clarified their position, and they have affirmed that yes, he was technically a professor.

That depends, does an accredited university say you are?



As for who we should go by?


Isn't there some kind of accreditation or can we just call whoever we want professors.

Why does it matter if he was tenure track? The point is he knew his stuff and taught his classes. And if you think you're going to be learning from a professor at a college, don't be surprised when you get taught by "adjunct faculty", which are not technically professors. Collegial education is more complicated than "professor" "not professor"



I'll get to it when I have the chance, but do you admit that your first point is innacurate?

the makeout hobo

Obama has long since explained this one. It was a bit of a misstatement on his end, which he clarified. What he meant was that his parents got together due to the "spirit of Selma", or civil rights movement. You're ignoring the entire picture with this point. Yes, it was a foot in the mouth moment, but he did clarify it, and come on, everyone has their gaffes.

Reverend_Hellh0und

I'll admit it is a very grey area and the timing of the UOC's statment is suspect.

the makeout hobo

Suspect? They've been getting letters asking for a point to be clarified, so they put out a release clarifing the point. What's so suspect about that? And what's so grey about it? Obama claims he was a professor and his university confirmed the fact. I think you're making an mountain out of a molehill here.

Reverend_Hellh0und

Nah, just show me then where before this letter where the UOC states that it considered senior lecturers "professors" and specifically where a senior lecturer could call himself a "professor of Constitutional law"