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Old 03-19-08, 05:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can Barack Obama "Really" Secure The Democratic Nomination?

Are the American people going to be able to think for themselves when it comes to their political and personal opinions concerning Barack Obama, and their own views concerning racism and race issues in America, THE POLITICAL ISSUES, and their own personal and honest opinions about Barack Obama? Or, are we all going to be forced to agree with what the American news medias say-instead of being able to freely form our own opinions about Barack Obama, THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES America is faced with ( such as the economy, American jobs going overseas, if we should really withdraw troops from Iraq, and what should be done about Iraq), and WHAT BARACK MEANS WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT "CHANGE" (DOES HE MEAN CHANGE BY HAVING A BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE INSTEAD OF THE TRADITIONAL WHITE MAN? HE REALLY NEEDS TO CLARIFY WHAT HE MEANS BY "CHANGE", AND THEN THOROUGHLY EXPLAIN WHAT HE INTENDS TO CHANGE, AND HOW).

It's time for Obama to stop being vague about the real political issues, or halfway talking about them, or talking around them. And, it's time that Obama stop using distractions like the petty Rev. Wright incident in order to avoid talking about the real political issues. No one really knows who is really behind the Rev. Wright video on Youtube, and rumors have it that either Obama put it on Youtube himself, or had someone else put it on there for him, in order to get media exposure, and take the heat off of his wife's statement about, "Only being proud of her country because of Barack getting a lot of support while running for president. What, she wasn't proud of America before this? And, Shawn Hannity also brought exposed her for a letter she wrote that was militant.

The Rev. Wright incident is old already, and Rev. Wright isn't the one running for president, Obama is. News media footage shouldn't have been wasted on Obama's predictable speech about growing up black and experiencing racism. I'm sure everyone in America has experienced racism at least once in their life-so where does Obama stand on the real political issues?

And, the news medias don't have the right to say, "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" thought Obama's speech was great, and that it's taking America in a new direction. I Don't recall telling the American news medias that I thought Obama's speech about Rev. Wright was great, or that it was taking me in a new direction-I thought his speech was predictable and a waste of time. Obama could have been using that news coverage to talk about the real political issues, because Rev. Wright has already been retired for awhile, and the news footage of him preaching to his congregation inside the confines of his church, really had nothing to do with Obama running for president or the real political issues that need to be talked about. And, Obama's rushing to get on the news to explain this petty incident only showed him to be insecure. Did anyone notice how quickly Hillary handled the Geraldine F. case, and then just got back on track with her campaign?

It's a long way until November, and anything can happen between now and then. Obama doesn't even have this election wrapped up yet, because there just isn't enough pledge delegates left for him to make the 2025 mark in order to automatically secure the democratic nomination-so the super delegates are going to come into play in determining the democratic nominee. Obama needs to get back on track politically, and stop concentrating on the Rev. Wright incident, because while he's whinning before the news medias about this, Hillary is securing super delegates, and convincing them that she would be a better nominee than Obama. (Now, some of you die hard Obama fans can lash out at me for saying this, but it is happening).

So, what do you think? Is Obama superman-can he end racism in America? Or should Obama stop allowing himself to be sidetracked by this Rev. Wright incident, and get back on political track?

Do you think Obama is being shown blatant favoritism by the news medias because he's black, and the news medias don't want to say anything that appears to be racist? Why or why not?

Do you think African Americans are voting for Obama just because he's African American, too? Do you think whites are voting for Obama because his mother was white? Do you think Obama's racial makeup will help or hinder him? Do you think Obama can bridge the hate gap between whites and blacks in America, and create some racial harmony? Or can people be made to like each other because Obama said to do it?


Do you think the Rev. Wright incident will "really" hurt Obama's campaign, or is this just b.s. that should have been swept under the rug in the first place?

Do you think the democrats are divided right now, and will lose the presidential election in November to John McCain? Or, do you think the republicans are presently trying to keep the democratic candidates distracted, while they promote John McCain as the candidate that Americans should vote for in November?

Do you think Hillary will be the democratic nominee after the democratic convention in August-or do you think Obama will wise the hell up, and start talking about the real political issues instead of petty stuff like the Rev. Wright case-then go on to secure the democratic nomination in August?
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Do you think the Rev. Wright incident will "really" hurt Obama's campaign, or is this just b.s. that should have been swept under the rug in the first place?

Do you think the democrats are divided right now, and will lose the presidential election in November to John McCain? Or, do you think the republicans are presently trying to keep the democratic candidates distracted, while they promote John McCain as the candidate that Americans should vote for in November?

Do you think Hillary will be the democratic nominee after the democratic convention in August-or do you think Obama will wise the hell up, and start talking about the real political issues instead of petty stuff like the Rev. Wright case-then go on to secure the democratic nomination in August?
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I really believe Hillary and Obama will lose to McCain. There are millions of people out there that just arent' very vocal, and are also honest and hardworking. they'll just show up in November, see a choice between "John" and "Barack" (or maybe a woman), and they'll choose "John." as simple as that.

so that's my opinion. I have doubts that Obama can secure the nomination. but having said that, you're confused about a great many things. for example, it isn't Obama bringing up the Wright thing. he's responding to it. but he's also been speaking about policy all along. you haven't noticed because you apparently follow headlines only.

the "incident" has hurt Obama's campaign. and make no mistake, it was intended to. Hillary is desperate, and nearly defeated. and anybody else notice that the "discovery" of this pastor's remarks have hushed all discussion of the McCain affair and even more importantly, his ties to lobbyists and his lies about those ties?

is there actually any "promotion" of McCain? I have seen little evidence of that. as usual, you are going to see "supporters" of McCain primarily talking about the flaws of the others. it works.

the pastor Wright story was the big one. it was always meant to appear this year. but the other candidates problems facilitated the timing of it.

the Democrats aren't really divided. that's just hooey. the candidates are in fact very similar. that's why it's difficult to decide between them. two very different candidates would divide the party. because the candidates are very similar, it just isn't.

the media need to sell a narrative. "epic struggle," "divide the party" ... these are all part of this narrative.
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Re: Can Barack Obama "Really" Secure The Democratic Nomination?

Wordz, is there any specific issue you want more information concerning Obama's platform on? He has reams and reams of pages on this stuff on his website.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I really believe Hillary and Obama will lose to McCain. There are millions of people out there that just arent' very vocal, and are also honest and hardworking. they'll just show up in November, see a choice between "John" and "Barack" (or maybe a woman), and they'll choose "John." as simple as that.

so that's my opinion. I have doubts that Obama can secure the nomination. but having said that, you're confused about a great many things. for example, it isn't Obama bringing up the Wright thing. he's responding to it. but he's also been speaking about policy all along. you haven't noticed because you apparently follow headlines only.

the "incident" has hurt Obama's campaign. and make no mistake, it was intended to. Hillary is desperate, and nearly defeated. and anybody else notice that the "discovery" of this pastor's remarks have hushed all discussion of the McCain affair and even more importantly, his ties to lobbyists and his lies about those ties?

is there actually any "promotion" of McCain? I have seen little evidence of that. as usual, you are going to see "supporters" of McCain primarily talking about the flaws of the others. it works.

the pastor Wright story was the big one. it was always meant to appear this year. but the other candidates problems facilitated the timing of it.

the Democrats aren't really divided. that's just hooey. the candidates are in fact very similar. that's why it's difficult to decide between them. two very different candidates would divide the party. because the candidates are very similar, it just isn't.

the media need to sell a narrative. "epic struggle," "divide the party" ... these are all part of this narrative.
You're wrong about Obama not bringing up the Wright incident, and this is not the biggest controversy to come out of the Obama campaign. Today, Shawn Hannity dug up more controversy on another minister (Rev. Meeks) who also was videoed preaching a highly controversal sermon, and he too is one of many of Obama's advisors and mentors. Also, Shawn Hannity exposed Obama's affiliations with the New Black Panther Party-and had Malik Shabazz on his show to talk about Obama's involvement with the Panthers.

You're correct in your assessment of the other candidates-Hillary and McCain have even more corrupt stuff in their personal lives that hasn't gotten exposed. And, McCain is in Israel this month, but I've said all along, that he will emerge as the next president.
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You're wrong about Obama not bringing up the Wright incident, and this is not the biggest controversy to come out of the Obama campaign. Today, Shawn Hannity dug up more controversy on another minister (Rev. Meeks) who also was videoed preaching a highly controversal sermon, and he too is one of many of Obama's advisors and mentors. Also, Shawn Hannity exposed Obama's affiliations with the New Black Panther Party-and had Malik Shabazz on his show to talk about Obama's involvement with the Panthers.

You're correct in your assessment of the other candidates-Hillary and McCain have even more corrupt stuff in their personal lives that hasn't gotten exposed. And, McCain is in Israel this month, but I've said all along, that he will emerge as the next president.
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Re: Can Barack Obama "Really" Secure The Democratic Nomination?

Why does it have to be a racial issue? Do you not think there is a thousande possible reasons why someone might vote for one or the other?
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Wordz, is there any specific issue you want more information concerning Obama's platform on? He has reams and reams of pages on this stuff on his website.
So, do you have a problem with my not being an Obama lover? Since you have been going to his website, then you should have found the support Obama has from the New Black Panther Party, and other ministers that are just as controversal as Rev. Wright-such as Rev. Meeks. The point I'm making is this: Obama is not who he is pretending to be, and only a fool is just going to vote for him because he keeps saying "change", but really has not defined how he intends to change anything. And, Obama is a junior senator with less than five years in politics. Yeah, he was a civil rights attorney for two years in Illinois, but he never have any significant or high profile cases, and spent most of his time as a college professor. Obama's probably not going to be president anyway-especially since Shawn Hannity has already exposed Obama's affiliations with the New Black Panther party and other controversal ministers besides Rev. Meeks. Obama has done absolutely nothing for the African American community-he's not even a civil rights leader, but is being put in the African American community by the news medias. So, why are all of the blind and gulliable Obama supporters so fascinated with Obama-especially when they don't know where he truly stands on the issues. I don't know who I'll vote for in November, however, I will not be voting for Obama.
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So, do you have a problem with my not being an Obama lover? Since you have been going to his website, then you should have found the support Obama has from the New Black Panther Party, and other ministers that are just as controversal as Rev. Wright-such as Rev. Meeks. The point I'm making is this: Obama is not who he is pretending to be, and only a fool is just going to vote for him because he keeps saying "change", but really has not defined how he intends to change anything. And, Obama is a junior senator with less than five years in politics. Yeah, he was a civil rights attorney for two years in Illinois, but he never have any significant or high profile cases, and spent most of his time as a college professor. Obama's probably not going to be president anyway-especially since Shawn Hannity has already exposed Obama's affiliations with the New Black Panther party and other controversal ministers besides Rev. Meeks. Obama has done absolutely nothing for the African American community-he's not even a civil rights leader, but is being put in the African American community by the news medias. So, why are all of the blind and gulliable Obama supporters so fascinated with Obama-especially when they don't know where he truly stands on the issues. I don't know who I'll vote for in November, however, I will not be voting for Obama.
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