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Old 03-13-08, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Facts We Are Supposed To Ignore About Barack Obama

I think this article puts it in context why Obama is not good for America.


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By Dave Gibson on Mar 13, 08


Obama’s fan club in the mainstream news media has abandoned all basic tenets of journalism, in favor of protecting a candidate whose own supporters cannot name any of his accomplishments. Despite his lack of experience and many troubling issues surrounding Obama, our liberal press has joined his campaign and now hope that we will be so taken with his rock star status that we too will ignore the facts.



Here are a few of the facts folks such as Chris Matthews hope we will not discover:

1) His middle name is Hussein.
2) His wife Michelle’s apparent anti-American attitude.
3) His membership in a black racist church.
4) His association with a known terrorist.
5) His endorsement from Louis Farrakhan.


NewsByUs: Facts We Are Supposed To Ignore About Barack Obama by Dave Gibson - Mar 13, 08

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NewsByUs: Facts We Are Supposed To Ignore About Barack Obama by Dave Gibson - Mar 13, 08
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Old 03-13-08, 03:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1) Irrelevant, and only morons are concerned with this. If he were the best man for the job and would honor his oath regarding the constitution, I would vote for a "Damian Anti-Christ Hitler."
2) Because she said she's now proud of her country? Since when is being ashamed, or dissenting anti-american? I'm getting tired of the "my country right or wrong" crowd and their refusal to understand this distinction. Only a fool would believe that we have always been right in our actions/laws/policies, and only a false patriot would show contempt for a person trying to make their country great again so that they can be genuinely proud of it.
3) How is it a racist Church?
4) Like who?
5) Non-issue, his platform does not resemble Farrakhan's. Again, only morons are moved by this.
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I think this article puts it in context why Obama is not good for America.

NewsByUs: Facts We Are Supposed To Ignore About Barack Obama by Dave Gibson - Mar 13, 08
1) Why does his middle name make him not good for America? Woodrow Wilson was a ****ty president. Does the fact that Reagan's middle name was Wilson mean that he was bad?

2) She does seem like she sucks, but I don't know how important his wife's coolness is on the scale of important issues.

3) This one is pretty fair. His pastor and spiritual advisor is a bigoted *******.

YouTube - Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Clinton ain't never been called...


****ed. Up.

4) Which one? The Wunderground dude? Yea, that's kind of ****ty, but it's not like he was BFF.

5) Who the **** cares? Bhkad endorsed McCain, but that doesn't mean McCain's a bad candidate.
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5) Who the **** cares? Bhkad endorsed McCain, but that doesn't mean McCain's a bad candidate.


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1) Irrelevant, and only morons are concerned with this. If he were the best man for the job and would honor his oath regarding the constitution, I would vote for a "Damian Anti-Christ Hitler."
I agree

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2) Because she said she's now proud of her country? Since when is being ashamed, or dissenting anti-american? I'm getting tired of the "my country right or wrong" crowd and their refusal to understand this distinction. Only a fool would believe that we have always been right in our actions/laws/policies, and only a false patriot would show contempt for a person trying to make their country great again so that they can be genuinely proud of it.

Oh I dunno, looking at some of the great things we have done in the past, including the civil rights movement, this is the first time she is "proud" when her husband wins a few primaries?


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3) How is it a racist Church?

Uhm have you listened to some of the pastors nonsense?


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4) Like who?

Wunderground dood.

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5) Non-issue, his platform does not resemble Farrakhan's. Again, only morons are moved by this.


I do think he distanced himself enough from farrakan but looking at his wife, his church and pastor for 20 years, makes me wonder.,
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Oh I dunno, looking at some of the great things we have done in the past, including the civil rights movement, this is the first time she is "proud" when her husband wins a few primaries?
First time? Says who? In what way do you categorize her with this question?

Being proud of historical events, and having a nation that you can currently be proud of are two very different things.

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Uhm have you listened to some of the pastors nonsense?
Nope, nor would my position change if he were calling for the extermination of all white people; Its still irrelevant.

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Wunderground dood.
Who? Can I get a source?

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I do think he distanced himself enough from farrakan but looking at his wife, his church and pastor for 20 years, makes me wonder.,
Well I have no argument against mere speculation. When the good Reverend has an assertion he is willing to bet on and debate, I'm your huckleberry.
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Re: Facts We Are Supposed To Ignore About Barack Obama

I think his middle name is irrelevant. He had no say in what his parents named him. I just wish he would confront it instead of ignoring it. Put it to rest once and for all.

My middle name is Alexander, does that mean I support a Greek takeover of the country? No.

What is your middle name? Does it necessarily link you to its ethnicity?



Obama's association with certain people does trouble me, though.
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First time? Says who? In what way do you categorize her with this question?
His wife, you don't know this? Anyway to me it actually demonstrated that she was rather selfish, and ignorant this countries history, including civil rights movement.

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Being proud of historical events, and having a nation that you can currently be proud of are two very different things.

I wouldn't want someone in office whos wife was not proud of this nation. But hey thats just me.


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Nope, nor would my position change if he were calling for the extermination of all white people; Its still irrelevant.

Nuh uh. thats changing the question and context. You asked: "3) How is it a racist Church?"

I and others explained it.


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Who? Can I get a source?
Look up I believe there is one available.


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Well I have no argument against mere speculation. When the good Reverend has an assertion he is willing to bet on and debate, I'm your huckleberry.


Some of these points I think I am doing quite fine, others I agree with you are nonsense. It was an article, I posted it to foster debate.
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