The Brilliance of Ron Paul: Brave New World

bhkad · 11-29-07, 05:00 PM

The Brilliance of Ron Paul: Brave New World

Right now the USA is having a hard time dealing with Jihad as an underground effort. But Ron Paul's proposed foreign policy would change that.

By relinquishing any ties or loyalties to much of the current free world and leaving the defense of it or control of it up for grabs, the Chinese will grab their share, the Russians will grab their share and Islam would grab it's share.

And while there would probably be little change in the way China and Russia 'did their business,' as a result of our withdrawal from the free world there would be two significant changes in the Islamic world.

1) With greater resources the Islamic Caliphate would grow larger and they would possess territories that were ALL Muslim rather than 10% 30% or 50% Islamic.

2) With a growing land mass under the extremist banner (Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya, Kuwait, Quttar, UAE, Yemen, Palestine, Pakistan, the Balkans, most of South East Asia, Somalia, Algeria, ALL of the African nations except for maybe South Africa AS WELL AS IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN) they would need to rely more on conventional military power to defend their empire.

And with those two changes the Islamic threat could be rendered manageable as opposed to the way things are today. Where there are too many non-Muslims who'd be sacrificed in a USA attack designed to try to eliminate global Islamic aggression now, by encouraging the Islamic vanguard to swallow up whole portions of the world (as Ron Paul's strategy would do) it would make those regions 'justified' targets of our WMD's.

He wouldn't have to worry about killing too many non-Muslims. They's ALL be Muslims! And thus it could be explained to the world and because they haven't bothered to get a good understanding of Islam or Jihad anyway, they will agree with his rationalization.

And because of their growing reliance on conventional weapons instead of weapons of terror, Ron Paul's bombers (he's ex-Air Force, always remember that!) could take out the Islamic military because that is what has kept Russia & China from attacking and it would surely deter an Islamic military.

So the keys to Ron Paul's brilliant Brave New World are that he would entice Islam into changing itself from a violent terrorist threat which we have a difficult time dealing with to a conventional force which we could defeat rather easily. And his policy would magically transform a scattered global population of Muslims which right now is interspersed with too many non-Muslims for the Muslims to be attacked without incurring unacceptable 'collateral damage,' into an 'expendable' ALL-Muslim population that would still kill many, many innocents but they could be easily 'justified.'

Ron Paul's Brilliant Brave New World!

He's smarter than he looks!

Iriemon · 11-29-07, 05:09 PM

What Islamic Caliphate would grow larger?

bhkad · 11-29-07, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

What Islamic Caliphate would grow larger?

The one that will be created after Ron Paul took office, silly!

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An Islamic Caliphate in Seven Easy Steps

In the introduction, the Jordanian journalist writes, "I interviewed a whole range of al-Qaida members with different ideologies to get an idea of how the war between the terrorists and Washington would develop in the future." What he then describes between pages 202 and 213 is a scenario, proof both of the terrorists' blindness as well as their brutal single-mindedness. In seven phases the terror network hopes to establish an Islamic caliphate which the West will then be too weak to fight.

* The First Phase Known as "the awakening" -- this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby "awakening" Muslims. "The first phase was judged by the strategists and masterminds behind al-Qaida as very successful," writes Hussein. "The battle field was opened up and the Americans and their allies became a closer and easier target." The terrorist network is also reported as being satisfied that its message can now be heard "everywhere."

* The Second Phase "Opening Eyes" is, according to Hussein's definition, the period we are now in and should last until 2006. Hussein says the terrorists hope to make the western conspiracy aware of the "Islamic community." Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaida wants an organization to develop into a movement. The network is banking on recruiting young men during this period. Iraq should become the center for all global operations, with an "army" set up there and bases established in other Arabic states.

* The Third Phase This is described as "Arising and Standing Up" and should last from 2007 to 2010. "There will be a focus on Syria," prophesies Hussein, based on what his sources told him. The fighting cadres are supposedly already prepared and some are in Iraq. Attacks on Turkey and -- even more explosive -- in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaida's masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization. The author also believes that countries neighboring Iraq, such as Jordan, are also in danger.

* The Fourth Phase Between 2010 and 2013, Hussein writes that al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. The estimate is that "the creeping loss of the regimes' power will lead to a steady growth in strength within al-Qaida." At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.

* The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

* The Sixth Phase Hussein believes that from 2016 onwards there will a period of "total confrontation." As soon as the caliphate has been declared the "Islamic army" it will instigate the "fight between the believers and the non-believers" which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.

* The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as "definitive victory." Hussein writes that in the terrorists' eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn't last longer than two years.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...369448,00.html

Iriemon · 11-29-07, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

The one that will be created after Ron Paul took office, silly!

OK. The phrase "With greater resources the Islamic Caliphate would grow larger ..." suggested to me that there was an Islamic Caliphate to grow larger to begin with.

Zyphlin · 11-29-07, 07:46 PM

I didn't think he could get more annoying with his anti-ron paul jihadist shtick.

I was wrong...

Edify_Always_In_All_Ways · 11-29-07, 08:13 PM

We could nuke the crap out of any Caliphate. I don't think it has a chance of every happening- they're just ridiculously overmatched in military power. If they became a threat to the entire world, how long would it be before China and especially India got involved? A nuke downs Mecca quickly, and Communist or Christian suicide bombers may become common. If China strapped bombs to their death-row prsioners, they'd probably end up with a membership close-to al-Quaeda's (slight sarcasm). South Africa today could beat the snot out of the rest of Africa if U.S. supplies stopped flowing in. If the Caliphate sent more resuorces to Africa, they'd get pounded elsewhere.

The only thing that gives the Caliphate any power at all is oil. If they withheld it from Europe, things would be tough- but what could they do with it otherwise? We'd immediately drill into Alaska and everywhere else if oil stopped coming, and that could get us through war with strict rationing on the homefront.

If Arabic regimes actually collapsed in Stage Four, they'd be swallowed up by infighting. If no Islamic group can even prevail in Iraq, how could al-Quaeda take over a dozen extra countries? Globalization today makes any non-corporate empire impossibly difficult to maintain.

Cute cat, by the way.

bhkad · 11-29-07, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways

We could nuke the crap out of any Caliphate. I don't think it has a chance of every happening- they're just ridiculously overmatched in military power. If they became a threat to the entire world, how long would it be before China and especially India got involved? A nuke downs Mecca quickly, and Communist or Christian suicide bombers may become common. If China strapped bombs to their death-row prsioners, they'd probably end up with a membership close-to al-Quaeda's (slight sarcasm). South Africa today could beat the snot out of the rest of Africa if U.S. supplies stopped flowing in. If the Caliphate sent more resuorces to Africa, they'd get pounded elsewhere.

The only thing that gives the Caliphate any power at all is oil. If they withheld it from Europe, things would be tough- but what could they do with it otherwise? We'd immediately drill into Alaska and everywhere else if oil stopped coming, and that could get us through war with strict rationing on the homefront.

If Arabic regimes actually collapsed in Stage Four, they'd be swallowed up by infighting. If no Islamic group can even prevail in Iraq, how could al-Quaeda take over a dozen extra countries? Globalization today makes any non-corporate empire impossibly difficult to maintain.

Cute cat, by the way.

Thanks!

And yep. All we need to do is cut our losses from the rest of the world's losers and then circle the wagons around Fortress America and we can be happy and healthy and well liked around the world...except maybe in those parts of the world where we sold them out and they hated us for not continuing to be the beacon of hope for freedom and liberty to the world.

But who needs THEM?

WE would be safe and that's all that matters.

Let everyone do whatever else they wish. We don't care!

Except for the oil thing. OBL wants to conquer the whole world for Allah and that means bringing down the infidel, pagan countries like ours and he intends to use oil as a weapon. So, if we stop defending the oil producing nations and the oil supplies and OBL gets control of it and the prices rise to $200/bbl or higher, well, I know Ron Paul would have SOME solution. So I'm not worried!

bhkad · 11-29-07, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

OK. The phrase "With greater resources the Islamic Caliphate would grow larger ..." suggested to me that there was an Islamic Caliphate to grow larger to begin with.

Hey, come on! Where's your Ron Paul Revolting spirit???

You need to think about how great the changes will be with Ron in charge!

Trust me. The Caliphate would be a certainty if we aren't standing in the way!

Who would stop it?

The UN???

Germany?

France?

bhkad · 11-29-07, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyphlin

I didn't think he could get more annoying with his anti-ron paul jihadist shtick.

I was wrong...

Get on the wagon, babe!

Ron Paul's Wagon!

Iriemon · 11-29-07, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhkad

Hey, come on! Where's your Ron Paul Revolting spirit???

You need to think about how great the changes will be with Ron in charge!

Trust me. The Caliphate would be a certainty if we aren't standing in the way!

Who would stop it?

The UN???

Germany?

France?

Good point.

Hey, where do you get your drugs?