Anybody see these from Eric Trump's Twitter feed

Saw these the other day on Eric Trump's Twitter feed.





Very interesting.

Strange but I am not seeing anything, try again.

azgreg said:

Saw these the other day on Eric Trump's Twitter feed.

Very interesting.

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Gosh. Third Way. Wonder where I've seen that before. :roll:

Not a big deal, seems like additional tone and message to suggest Trump is anti this or that.

Casper said:

Strange but I am not seeing anything, try again.

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cpwill said:

Gosh. Third Way. Wonder where I've seen that before. :roll:

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OrphanSlug said:

Not a big deal, seems like additional tone and message to suggest Trump is anti this or that.

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To me it's not the graphics themselves, but rather the source that I find interesting.

cpwill said:

Gosh. Third Way. Wonder where I've seen that before. :roll:

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Bisexuals?

Redress said:

Bisexuals?

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Fascism, Redress. Fascism sells itself as the Third Way Alternative to a Two Party/Ideology System That Isn't Working. They have since Mussolini.

cpwill said:

Fascism, Redress. Fascism sells itself as the Third Way Alternative to a Two Party/Ideology System That Isn't Working. They have since Mussolini.

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I was actually unaware of that(and apparently my joke bombed...). However, I would point out that while what you say may be true(I will take your word for it, I trust you), that does not mean that Trump as a "Third Way" is necessarily fascist. Laughable, yes. Fascist, probably not. Too many limits to presidential power.

Trump has so many political viewpoints that someday he will cross the streams and blow his whole campaign up.
Great. A third animal not to like, politically.

Redress said:

I was actually unaware of that(and apparently my joke bombed...). However, I would point out that while what you say may be true(I will take your word for it, I trust you), that does not mean that Trump as a "Third Way" is necessarily fascist. Laughable, yes. Fascist, probably not. Too many limits to presidential power.

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I giggled......a little......on the inside.......where it counts.

Redress said:

I was actually unaware of that(and apparently my joke bombed...). However, I would point out that while what you say may be true(I will take your word for it, I trust you), that does not mean that Trump as a "Third Way" is necessarily fascist. Laughable, yes. Fascist, probably not. Too many limits to presidential power.

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Fascism as an ideology exists independent of the constitutional system in which its adherents find itself in. The American and British Fascist parties are no less fascist because heretofore they have been unable to exercise power as they wish they could (though the American fascists' preferred candidate is currently in the lead to take the nomination of a major American party, so who knows).

That being said, Fascism is the wedding of militant nationalism to a middle-of-the-road-ish middle class socialism, usually in conjunction with betrayal narratives featuring impotent elites and an unpopular minority group. It prioritizes Strength over moral objections, and claims to be a Third Way replacement for a failed Right/Left dichotomy. Stop me when this starts sounding familiar.

People get hung up on the militarism and human rights abuses associated with Fascism's most famous examples, and forget that it often pitches itself as a common-sense centrist solution by competent, strong leaders.

The only upside is, a President Trump is that it might remind many in Congress that they were supposed to be enforcing those Constitutional limits on our now-Imperial-Presidency all along, instead of opposing it for "the other guy" and cheering it on for "their guy". Neither side will ever unilaterally disarm, so it takes a serious threat to force mutual disarmament.

Ntharotep said:

Trump has so many political viewpoints that someday he will cross the streams and blow his whole campaign up.
Great. A third animal not to like, politically.

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That would be true.... if his followers were with him because of his political viewpoints. I am not seeing much evidence that this is generally the case. Trump's political opinions changing seem to have about as much impact on his base of support as Hillary Clinton wearing blue contact lenses to change the color of her eyes has on hers.

Redress said:

I was actually unaware of that(and apparently my joke bombed...). However, I would point out that while what you say may be true(I will take your word for it, I trust you), that does not mean that Trump as a "Third Way" is necessarily fascist. Laughable, yes. Fascist, probably not. Too many limits to presidential power.

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Sorry I blew past your joke. I'm living my life on the fritz, right now, and the stress is showing.

cpwill said:

Fascism, Redress. Fascism sells itself as the Third Way Alternative to a Two Party/Ideology System That Isn't Working. They have since Mussolini.

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So anyone who refuses to conform to a partisan political system is a fascist? Manifestly absurd as usual, cpwill. Possibly the most ridiculous claim I've read in ages.

cpwill said:

That being said, Fascism is the wedding of militant nationalism to a middle-of-the-road-ish middle class socialism, usually in conjunction with betrayal narratives featuring impotent elites and an unpopular minority group. It prioritizes Strength over moral objections, and claims to be a Third Way replacement for a failed Right/Left dichotomy. Stop me when this starts sounding familiar.

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Fascism is specifically palingenetic, specifically ultranationalistic, and specifically revolutionary. Trump doesn't advocate the destruction of liberal democracy by a revolutionary vanguard of committed Fascists, ethnic cleansing, and chauvinistic foreign policy qua lebensraum, does he? He's not a Fascist.

Populism is not Fascism. Stop showing your contempt for ordinary working Americans attracted to populism; stop trying to silence them. Stop trying to coerce them to adopt your globalist weltanschauung.

cpwill said:

People get hung up on the militarism and human rights abuses associated with Fascism's most famous examples, and forget that it often pitches itself as a common-sense centrist solution by competent, strong leaders.

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Scholars of Fascism would laugh at you (vide Paxton or Griffin, before you further betray your ignorance of comparative political philosophy).

For God sake, this is inverted McCarthyism. There's a Fascist under your bed, cpwill!!!!!

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So anyone who refuses to conform to a partisan political system is a fascist? Manifestly absurd as usual, cpwill. Possibly the most ridiculous claim I've read in ages.

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Likely because you are projecting and creating a strawman. Fascists use the Third Way language, and are it's most famous practitioners. It's part of their pitch. That's all.

Fascism is specifically palingenetic, specifically ultranationalistic, and specifically revolutionary. Trump doesn't advocate the destruction of liberal democracy by a revolutionary vanguard of committed Fascists, ethnic cleansing, and chauvinistic foreign policy qua lebensraum, does he? He's not a Fascist.

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Here you are confusing Naziism with Fascism.

However:

1. Yes, Donald Trump advocates an accelerated trashing of our Constitutional system of governance and both he and his movement (see: OP) are explicitly pitching themselves as a replacement for our current two-party system.
2. Yes, Donald Trump favors aggressive and "chauvinistic" foreign policy.

You didn't try to bring it up, but take a look at Fascist discussions of The Will and Trump's paeans to "Strength". You'll find quite a lot of overlap. Is Trump a Fascist? I don't know - Fascism is an internally coherent, consistent ideology. Internal coherence and ideological consistency doesn't seem to be Trump's strongest suit. I would say that Trump couldn't explain things like Organic State theory, but he can hum the tune.

Populism is not Fascism

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That's right, it's not. But Fascism is populist.

Stop showing your contempt for ordinary working Americans attracted to populism

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No. Democracy is an atrocious idea, which is why our Founders reject it. I can and will continue to have nothing but contempt for the notion that our system of government is best run when it's rules and protections are run over roughshod by masses in an emotional fit of pique. I respect it as a danger to freedom, but not as something worthy of respect in and of itself.

stop trying to silence them. Stop trying to coerce them to adopt your globalist weltanschauung.

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:lamo

No. I'm a Patriot. I'm dedicated to our Founding Principles, and believe in the basic truths of modern Conservatism.

Scholars of Fascism would laugh at you (vide Paxton or Griffin, before you further betray your ignorance of comparative political philosophy).

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Actually I have a masters degree in political science. I wouldn't pretend to be an expert in Fascism, but I've read enough to know it when I see it.

For God sake, this is inverted McCarthyism. There's a Fascist under your bed, cpwill!!!!!

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No, there is an AR-15 under my bed. But there is a proto-Fascist winning the GOP race for President.

cpwill said:

Fascism, Redress. Fascism sells itself as the Third Way Alternative to a Two Party/Ideology System That Isn't Working. They have since Mussolini.

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Oh, so anyone who is unhappy with Dems/Reps are supporters of Fascism? Somebody better tell the the Greens, The Constitutionalists, and the Libertarians. Nowhere in that graphic is the phrase "third way" mentioned. Buy hey go ahead and continue to make up stuff. Gumby would be impressed with your stretching.