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Donald Trump would like you to think that he's taking a pass on Thursday's seventh Republican presidential debate because moderator Megyn Kelly treated him shabbily in the last Fox News debate or because the network put out a snarky statement disparaging him when it learned he was thinking about bagging the debate.

Trump is sick of debating. Period.
He also knows two things:
1. He is not a great debater but probably had his best performance in a debate in the last get-together of the candidates. (His amazing statement announcing he would not participate in the seventh debate included this line: "There have already been six debates, and according to all online debate polls including Drudge, Slate, Time Magazine, and many others, Mr. Trump has won all of them, in particular the last one.")
2. He has the momentum in Iowa and is way ahead in New Hampshire.
For Trump then another debate this close to the Iowa caucuses has almost no upside. His attacks on Ted Cruz are working. All of the second tier candidates are either attacking each other or Cruz. Thousands of people are coming to every one of his rallies -- including the one he will hold tonight in Iowa while his rivals debate. He is getting wall-to-wall media coverage and will continue to do so.
What Trump wants to do then is run out the clock. Take as few risks as possible between now and Monday.


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The talking point Trump keeps repeating of, "I was treated unfairly" and attack Megyn Kelly is all a smoke screen that has been created to hide the true intentions. The true intention is simple, its mitigating his risk factor. Is it cowardly? Absolutely.









 
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While that is plausible, he supporters don't seem to be people persuaded by facts. If they still are hanging on now, there isn't any flub that Trump can say to turn them off. "Hey Megyn , you bleed'in today?"
 
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The talking point Trump keeps repeating of, "I was treated unfairly" and attack Megyn Kelly is all a smoke screen that has been created to hide the true intentions. The true intention is simple, its mitigating his risk factor. Is it cowardly? Absolutely. [/FONT]

There was a good segment on that by O'Donnell last night. I think the article above and he have it right.

He's trying to run out the clock -- and setting himself up for refusing to do more debates.

He really is *not* a good debater, and one on one, in the general, if he gets picked -- placing him for 45 minutes in the ring against the dem rival is going to absolutely cream him.
 
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when there is a finite amount of media coverage, the donald accurately recognizes that when he does something to absorb the biggest part of that attention, there is little remaining that is available to his array of opponents
hell of a tactic
and works only as long as he can continue to disproportionately engage the media's attention
 
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That's better than "I don't like the way you play, so I'm taking my ball and going home", which is why he says he's not debating.

But, either way, he's a long, long, very long way from being even the slightest little bitty bit presidential.
 
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He was treated unfairly after the first GOP debate. It's not just his supporters who noticed it. Bill Maher pointed it out. And don't forget that hack Frank Luntz and his phony and staged "focus group".
 
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The talking point Trump keeps repeating of, "I was treated unfairly" and attack Megyn Kelly is all a smoke screen that has been created to hide the true intentions. The true intention is simple, its mitigating his risk factor. Is it cowardly? Absolutely.

I think you are 100% correct about Trump's true reasons (mitigation of risk). The "cowardly" lavel, however, does not apply as neither Trump, nor any other candidate have ethical or moral obligations to participate in debates.

As a side note, professional boxers routinely duck offered matches when they no longer need the preliminary matches and they dont want to risk injury or even worse, an upset loss. Like Trump, they offer alot of excuses (venue, prize money, too busy training etc.) They then save their effort for the title bout. While this is also frustrating for boxing fans, the boxers dont have an ethical obligation to accept all offered matches either.
 
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I think you are 100% correct about Trump's true reasons (mitigation of risk). .

You underestimate the guy. By a lot. He could have used the debate, but he has bigger fish to fry at the moment, this is about taking down Fox News as part of his agenda to take down the R party, and replace it with something that represents America and hopefully something that works.

If there was ever any doubt that Trump is a traitor to his class those doubts should be gone now.
 
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You underestimate the guy. By a lot. He could have used the debate, but he has bigger fish to fry at the moment, this is about taking down Fox News as part of his agenda to take down the R party, and replace it with something that represents America and hopefully something that works.

Sure, Trump could have used the debate, but he also risks getting injured, or even receiving an upset loss. This has nothing to do with Fox news and everything to do with Trump's calculated risk mitigation. To paraphrase another poster: You dont give opponents anymore chances than you have to.

Boxers (my favorite sport) do this routinely. I am thinking Trump's politics are a lot like professional boxing in that it mixes real ability, with showmanship, with the calculated acceptance or refusal of offered matches based on the needs of the boxer, not the wants of his opponnets. This allows a boxer to "win" on some occasions by not competing. A win, however, is still a win.... .
 
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Sure, Trump could have used the debate, but he also risks getting injured, or even receiving an upset loss. This has nothing to do with Fox news and everything to do with Trump's calculated risk mitigation. To paraphrase another poster: You dont give opponents anymore chances than you have to.

Boxers (my favorite sport) do this routinely. I am thinking Trump's politics are a lot like professional boxing in that it mixes real ability, with showmanship, with the calculated acceptance or refusal of offered matches based on the needs of the boxer, not the wants of his opponnets. This allows a boxer to "win" on some occasions by not competing. A win, however, is still a win.... .

You understand one layer of the onion. I understand at least the next three also.
 
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It would seem this gambit offers him multiple advantages.
 
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You understand one layer of the onion. I understand at least the next three also.
But I only consider real layers of the onion. In short, i dont think Trump wants to tear down the Republican party. Given his past secular statements (before his "conversion"), he may want to reduce the religous base, but he realizes that he needs at least the tacit support of religous conservatives to win.
 
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So, you're calling Trump a coward because he's doing what EVERY other candidate seeks to do in any election ("mitigating his risk factor")? That's just laughable.
 
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He was treated unfairly after the first GOP debate. It's not just his supporters who noticed it. Bill Maher pointed it out. And don't forget that hack Frank Luntz and his phony and staged "focus group".

How was he "treated unfairly"?

You underestimate the guy. By a lot. He could have used the debate
He is "using the debate" by refusing not to go to it...

, but he has bigger fish to fry at the moment, this is about taking down Fox News
:lamo
Sure it is, hence why he showed up on Bill O'Reilly last night...

as part of his agenda to take down the R party, and replace it with something that represents America and hopefully something that works.
Trump supporters are the most delusional in the crowd....

If there was ever any doubt that Trump is a traitor to his class those doubts should be gone now.
Trump? A traitor to his class? He brags about his class and status.. Like seriously, how delusional are you?
 
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Trump? A traitor to his class? He brags about his class and status.. Like seriously, how delusional are you?


I have been saying that Trump is the real deal since 9/10/2015

At this point your argument is not worth taking seriously....Trump has changed everything going forwards, it is the delusional ones who cant admit reality.
 
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When I watch a Republican debate it is obvious to me that Trump is a horrible debater. The problem is that I don't have any proof that he is a horrible debater as the polls in his favor always grow after debates. I don't think Trump is mitigating risk by avoiding the debate. I think he knows that he doesn't need the debate as a platform to be successful.
 
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I posted this in the other thread.

It should be seen here:

This article is pure gold:
Donald Trump once scolded GOP candidates for boycotting Iowa debate he was supposed to moderate

http://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-megyn-kelly-boycott-fox-news-2011-interview-151436302.html

"Four years ago, Donald Trump was scheduled to moderate a Republican debate in Iowa, but just two candidates agreed to participate in the Newsmax-hosted event because the then “Celebrity Apprentice” host would not rule out an independent run.

“We’re not seeing a lot of courage here,” Trump told Fox News’ Megyn Kelly in a 2011 interview. “These Republicans, they’re supposed to be brave.”

<snip>

Megyn Kelly is a lightweight,” Trump said at a press conference in Iowa Tuesday. “Megyn Kelly shouldn’t be at the debate.”

But in their 2011 interview, Trump heaped praise on Kelly’s moderating skills.

“I could never beat you. That wouldn’t even be close. That would be no contest,”
Trump said. “You have done a great job, by the way. And I mean it.”

:lol:
 
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The talking point Trump keeps repeating of, "I was treated unfairly" and attack Megyn Kelly is all a smoke screen that has been created to hide the true intentions. The true intention is simple, its mitigating his risk factor. Is it cowardly? Absolutely.

Too much of an opinion piece to know for sure what Trump is really thinking.

I agree running from perceived unfavorable debate conditions is a bit cowardly, but it may be a bit much to suggest with certainty that Trump is just avoiding debate in general. We need to wait for the next debate post this FoxNews debate, then we will know more about his intentions.
 
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I have been saying that Trump is the real deal since 9/10/2015
"Real deal"? What does that even mean?
But do you deny that he about his class and status quite frequently?

At this point your argument is not worth taking seriously....Trump has changed everything going forwards, it is the delusional ones who cant admit reality.
Your statements hold no substance and just simply hail Trump as your Führer
 
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But do you deny that he about his class and status quite frequently?
He has spent his entire life building the Trump brand, it is him and he is it, and the Trump brand is all about success and extravagance and greatness. I give him a pass when his slips into speaking as a member of his class, because I many weeks ago became convinced that this run is an effort by him to betray his class. I feel the same way here as I did about Paula Deen, she lived a certain reality for most of her life, give her a break if she slips into talking the old ways, I dont think she is racist, and it is just words. I care about what is in people's heads and hearts some sure, but I care about what people do a lot more.

Donald J Trump is talking like a guy who understands me and people like me when no one else in leadership seems to, and the people and groups and practices that he is railing against are almost ways great causes, Trump has a ability and a willingness to pick out the bad guys. That means that Donald Trump is my guy. I see nothing in the record of his life that informs me that he should not be my guy either .
 
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that expression makes me think the donald is saying "she did not properly genuflect"
 
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Who gives a ****?


Really?

Take a look at the billboards of this forum and a few other. There are at least TEN TIMES the number of threads about Trump than any other candidate, and in the hundreds with some of them.

Speculate on "why" all you like, but its water off his back. By bowing out he's bought more exposure than what is being paid for by all the other candidates. The irony is that its lefties like you giving him all the attention.

The left is terrified of this guy and every reaction just gives him more
 
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Who gives a ****?


Really?

Take a look at the billboards of this forum and a few other. There are at least TEN TIMES the number of threads about Trump than any other candidate, and in the hundreds with some of them.

Speculate on "why" all you like, but its water off his back. By bowing out he's bought more exposure than what is being paid for by all the other candidates. The irony is that its lefties like you giving him all the attention.

The left is terrified of this guy and every reaction just gives him more

by 'terrified' it is assumed you mean 'hopeful that trump is the GOP's standard bearer'
nothing will cause Americans to go to the polls like the need to vote for whoever is running against the donald
 
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The talking point Trump keeps repeating of, "I was treated unfairly" and attack Megyn Kelly is all a smoke screen that has been created to hide the true intentions. The true intention is simple, its mitigating his risk factor. Is it cowardly? Absolutely.
I doubt anyone would buy the idea that Donald Trump is a 'coward'. It's all about strategy, not bravery.
 
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Too much of an opinion piece to know for sure what Trump is really thinking.

I agree running from perceived unfavorable debate conditions is a bit cowardly, but it may be a bit much to suggest with certainty that Trump is just avoiding debate in general. We need to wait for the next debate post this FoxNews debate, then we will know more about his intentions.

He is avoiding the debate in general....
 
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