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The real reason Donald Trump is skipping tonight’s Fox News debate has nothing to do

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So, you're calling Trump a coward because he's doing what EVERY other candidate seeks to do in any election ("mitigating his risk factor")? That's just laughable.

Avoiding a debate as a means to mitigate his risk factor is cowardly....
 
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Avoiding a debate as a means to mitigate his risk factor is cowardly....

I don't think so. Cowardly doesn't even enter the picture. He's a business man. He's doing what good businessmen do. He already appears to have a commanding lead in some of the polls. Why risk losing that in the eleventh hour? There's no good reason. And add to that the media expectation that Trump has to appear because that's the expectation, and you can easily see that Trump would not be interested in flushing out Fox's take for the night at his expense, either. I watched O'Reilly (a man I'm not fond of at all) with Trump last night, and O'Reilly begged Trump to appear tonight. I imagine Trump rather enjoyed that. I'm not at all a Trump fan, but it's important to understand him if you'd like to beat him.
 
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He is avoiding the debate in general....


And a brilliant move!

Once again its about name recognition, and today, Trump has front and center, just as he has had throughout the campaign. He is deliberately not following tradition as they gives him headlines. Those who opposed him from the outset will be outraged, those who support him will see the genius and those in between will be hearing "Trump" more than all the other candidates combined.

As a political strategy, it really is brilliant....and he need not ever get to specifics, just like Obama
 
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He has spent his entire life building the Trump brand, it is him and he is it, and the Trump brand is all about success and extravagance and greatness. I give him a pass when his slips into speaking as a member of his class, because I many weeks ago became convinced that this run is an effort by him to betray his class. I feel the same way here as I did about Paula Deen, she lived a certain reality for most of her life, give her a break if she slips into talking the old ways, I dont think she is racist, and it is just words. I care about what is in people's heads and hearts some sure, but I care about what people do a lot more.
Essentially what I got out of this is that your a huge apologist

Donald J Trump is talking like a guy who understands me and people like me when no one else in leadership seems to,
The lowest common denominator

and the people and groups and practices that he is railing against are almost ways great causes,
Minorities? Muslims? Anyone who disagrees with him?

Trump has a ability and a willingness to pick out the bad guys.
:roll:

That means that Donald Trump is my guy. I see nothing in the record of his life that informs me that he should not be my guy either .
Trump supporters.....
 
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And a brilliant move!

Once again its about name recognition, and today, Trump has front and center, just as he has had throughout the campaign. He is deliberately not following tradition as they gives him headlines. Those who opposed him from the outset will be outraged, those who support him will see the genius and those in between will be hearing "Trump" more than all the other candidates combined.

As a political strategy, it really is brilliant....and he need not ever get to specifics, just like Obama

It just goes to show that this campaign and much of the GOP primary cycle is not about the issues. Its become a MTV reality show.
 
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Who gives a ****?


Really?

Take a look at the billboards of this forum and a few other. There are at least TEN TIMES the number of threads about Trump than any other candidate, and in the hundreds with some of them.

Speculate on "why" all you like, but its water off his back. By bowing out he's bought more exposure than what is being paid for by all the other candidates. The irony is that its lefties like you giving him all the attention.

The left is terrified of this guy and every reaction just gives him more

It seems some of your countrymen are terrified of him, or at least somewhat trepidatious as well:



and for good reason.
 
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Donald Trump is NOT well liked in Canada. As a matter for fact an MLA just accused a cabinet minister of "Trumping" implying said minister is racist.

I have mentioned that the Mayor of Vancouver is leading a charge to have Trump's name removed from a local tower, he has said he doesn't want the city to be associated with Trump in any way.

Far as I'm concerned the guy is a walking trade war
 
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Read more @: The real reason Donald Trump is skipping tonight’s Fox News debate has nothing to do with Megyn Kelly

The talking point Trump keeps repeating of, "I was treated unfairly" and attack Megyn Kelly is all a smoke screen that has been created to hide the true intentions. The true intention is simple, its mitigating his risk factor. Is it cowardly? Absolutely. [/FONT][/COLOR]


Had Trump shown up tonight, the video of him (like the video's used on Cruz and Rubio) would have been devastating. If that's why he made this call (and it makes sense), then it was a smarter move than he realized.
 
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Read more @: The real reason Donald Trump is skipping tonight’s Fox News debate has nothing to do with Megyn Kelly

The talking point Trump keeps repeating of, "I was treated unfairly" and attack Megyn Kelly is all a smoke screen that has been created to hide the true intentions. The true intention is simple, its mitigating his risk factor. Is it cowardly? Absolutely. [/FONT][/COLOR]









Why is it cowardly to do something that makes the headlines for days on end? Sounds like cheap advertising to me.
 
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Why is it cowardly to do something that makes the headlines for days on end? Sounds like cheap advertising to me.

Your running for president and you refuse to debate "the issues" on stage simply because he wants to mitigate his risk factor... Pretty cowardly in my opinion.
 
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Your running for president and you refuse to debate "the issues" on stage simply because he wants to mitigate his risk factor... Pretty cowardly in my opinion.

While this theory you're pushing along is entertaining, and the extra effort to try and denigrate his supporters is cute, the fact is, a lot of voters are proving the party is over for the political/social manipulators. It makes sense that these political/social manipulators are firing every weapon they have in a crazed effort to inflict some damage.

Too bad they are standing in a circle pulling the triggers, while the targets left the room long ago.
 
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While this theory you're pushing along is entertaining, and the extra effort to try and denigrate his supporters is cute, the fact is, a lot of voters are proving the party is over for the political/social manipulators. It makes sense that these political/social manipulators are firing every weapon they have in a crazed effort to inflict some damage.

Too bad they are standing in a circle pulling the triggers, while the targets left the room long ago.

Skipping a debate isnt being a political/social manipulator?
 
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While this theory you're pushing along is entertaining, and the extra effort to try and denigrate his supporters is cute, the fact is, a lot of voters are proving the party is over for the political/social manipulators. It makes sense that these political/social manipulators are firing every weapon they have in a crazed effort to inflict some damage.

Too bad they are standing in a circle pulling the triggers, while the targets left the room long ago.

The party that's over will be the Republican Party should they actually nominate Trump.
 
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Skipping a debate isnt being a political/social manipulator?

No, why would it?

Claiming Trump did so because he was scared most certainly is. That's just opinion, and given the source, and the ideological position of those who agree with it, nothing more than conjecture attempting to influence opinion.

It should be rather clear, these attempts by the ideologically driven media to invent motives are viewed every time by millions of people as nothing but confirmation of the deplorable state of the media.

Why else would this constantly end up being nothing but water off Trumps back? Do people think they are getting any traction by claiming the reason nothing sticks is because these millions of people are stupid?

All that does is feed the fires further.

These ideological social/political manipulators must be exasperated trying to figure out what to do. The article from the Post is just more evidence of this truth.
 
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No, why would it?
Because he is refusing to debate his political positions right before the election and instead is throwing a feel good charity event..... How is that not manipulating the social/political climate?
 
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The party that's over will be the Republican Party should they actually nominate Trump.

If I had a dollar for every claim I've read that the Republican party would be over if "X" happens, I'd be dictating this post from a lounge chair on my private South Pacific Island.

The establishment is on notice in the Republican Party. The parties roots are from political change, so it has a history of blazing trails. I don't see how that kind of DNA suggest is can't survive reality checks along the way.
 
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The party that's over will be the Republican Party should they actually nominate Trump.

a lot of you seem to think that way

i think the party is stronger than one person, or one nomination

right now....it is morphing

the conservatives, for the first time in a LONG time, have real power in the party

that has the left shaking in their boots....as they thought it would never happen again

could the party splinter....yeah....it could

the bible thumpers are gonna lose this fight to the other conservatives in the party

and the tea party will be a BIG PART of the new paradigm

i see the GOP going way less socially conservative, and way more conservative in other areas

maybe meeting somewhere in the middle with the right leaning libertarians

that is what i foresee for the new GOP.....

and once it gets it's footing, and it's platforms down.....i think it will bring a LOT of independents back from the abyss
 
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Because he is refusing to debate his political positions right before the election and instead is throwing a feel good charity event..... How is that not manipulating the social/political climate?

It seems to me, as Fox News proved in general, and Megan Kelly proved specifically, social/political manipulation was on the menu for the debate. No candidate is obligated to eat what is planed to be served.

Let's face the facts, there have been countless hours devoted to the Republican Candidates positions on the issues. How many more hours of Republican debate have aired as opposed to DNC candidates?

If someone doesn't know enough about any of the Republican Candidates by now, they never will.

It seems to me Trump is proving he knows far more about getting things done than any candidate from any party running. Like him, or dislike him, it's difficult to argue otherwise.
 
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a lot of you seem to think that way

i think the party is stronger than one person, or one nomination

right now....it is morphing

the conservatives, for the first time in a LONG time, have real power in the party

that has the left shaking in their boots....as they thought it would never happen again

could the party splinter....yeah....it could

the bible thumpers are gonna lose this fight to the other conservatives in the party

and the tea party will be a BIG PART of the new paradigm

i see the GOP going way less socially conservative, and way more conservative in other areas

maybe meeting somewhere in the middle with the right leaning libertarians

that is what i foresee for the new GOP.....

and once it gets it's footing, and it's platforms down.....i think it will bring a LOT of independents back from the abyss

Let me backtrack a bit... the party will be over for this election. You're right that the party is stronger than one person.

However, the "conservatives" having taken over the party doesn't have the Democrats shaking in their boots. The splinter between the Bible Thumpers, the Tea Party, and the Trumpeteers isn't scaring the liberal Democrats in the least, quite the opposite in fact. Should the Republican Party not get its act together, we'll have another Democrat in the White House next January. Moreover, should they still remain hung up on the different ideologies, my prediction is a loss of at least one of the houses of Congress next time around. That's my prediction. It could be wrong, but it most likely isn't.
 
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It seems to me, as Fox News proved in general, and Megan Kelly proved specifically, social/political manipulation was on the menu for the debate. No candidate is obligated to eat what is planed to be served.
Oh wait, you cant ask tough questions to the Donald and when he gives a vague answer you cant ask for a follow up... And most definitely you cannot use Donalds own words against him, right?

Let's face the facts, there have been countless hours devoted to the Republican Candidates positions on the issues. How many more hours of Republican debate have aired as opposed to DNC candidates?

If someone doesn't know enough about any of the Republican Candidates by now, they never will.

It seems to me Trump is proving he knows far more about getting things done than any candidate from any party running. Like him, or dislike him, it's difficult to argue otherwise.
:roll: Now we have reached the point where Republicans are just tired of debates? I thought they were all about upholding their number of debates.. What happened?
 
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:roll: Now we have reached the point where Republicans are just tired of debates? I thought they were all about upholding their number of debates.. What happened?


What new information did we get last night?

I cant think of a thing.

We got to watch the POTUS candidates give another performance, and some changed their style a bit, but you dont care about that right because you want to hear the PLANS , "what are you going to do for ME!" Right?

Ya, we got nothing new on that, so maybe it was a waste of time.

The highlight of the debate seems to be that Cruz and Rubio got shown up as flip floppers, but if you did not know that months ago then you were not paying much attention at all.

Trump is right, there are too many debates, and far too many people who dont matter are sucking up stage space which makes the debates less useful, so skipping this one debate is no big deal.

Get used to saying these words "(Optional:I hate to say it, but) Trump is right".
 
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Oh wait, you cant ask tough questions to the Donald and when he gives a vague answer you cant ask for a follow up... And most definitely you cannot use Donalds own words against him, right?

If you do, he won't come to your parties any more. He'll just go off by himself and pout.
 
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That's better than "I don't like the way you play, so I'm taking my ball and going home", which is why he says he's not debating.

But, either way, he's a long, long, very long way from being even the slightest little bitty bit presidential.

Maybe it's like this. Any actor, and any pol who has been coached by actors, can look and talk 'presidential'. Maybe some people have had enough of the posturing and warm to a candidate who does not seem to be acting a part? Does that make any sort of sense?
 
Re: The real reason Donald Trump is skipping tonight’s Fox News debate has nothing to

Maybe it's like this. Any actor, and any pol who has been coached by actors, can look and talk 'presidential'. Maybe some people have had enough of the posturing and warm to a candidate who does not seem to be acting a part? Does that make any sort of sense?

It does.
But then, Trump needs a bit more coaching.
 
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If I had a dollar for every claim I've read that the Republican party would be over if "X" happens, I'd be dictating this post from a lounge chair on my private South Pacific Island.

The establishment is on notice in the Republican Party. The parties roots are from political change, so it has a history of blazing trails. I don't see how that kind of DNA suggest is can't survive reality checks along the way.

I bet (a dollar) that you have not read such claims more than a hundred times. Let's stretch belief and say one thousand. Now $1000 may get you to a South Pacific Island but it wont e enough to buy it AND a lounge chair.
 
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