Exactly "WHAT" Is The Secret Of Trump's Popularity?[W:135]

James972 said:

Yep, if Trump sends them packing we'll have 20 million new jobs the next day and plenty of upward pressure on wages.

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And if any "illegals" do get to return; at least they'll be properly vetted for crime and disease, etc!

And hopefully it won't be more than the number of remaining jobs(unfilled by Americans) will support!

RetiredNSmilin said:

I think I am IN LOVE, Empirica :2wave:

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Awhhh, you so sweet! :blushing:

Eliminate the attraction (free stuff) in the first place.

but of course there are those that insist in giving away the farm to them.

That is one reason California is so broke. The counties have to pay for all that free stuff for them, but they are not getting anything back from them in return.

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Hopefully, once they're gone; many of these delusional Americans will become aware of how much better off the nation is on so many levels without "illegal immigrants"!

Empirica said:

And if any "illegals" do get to return; at least they'll be properly vetted for crime and disease, etc!

And hopefully it won't be more than the number of remaining jobs(unfilled by Americans) will support!

Awhhh, you so sweet! :blushing:

Hopefully, once they're gone; many of these delusional Americans will become aware of how much better off the nation is on so many levels without "illegal immigrants"!

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And let's not forget the reason liberals invite them here is so they can legalize them and have them block vote liberal, which they dutifully do. This is an odd form of treason. Our Founders did not imagine a group would try to subvert our country this way so it is not clearly illegal.

James972 said:

And let's not forget the reason liberals invite them here is so they can legalize them and have them block vote liberal, which they dutifully do. This is an odd form of treason. Our Founders did not imagine a group would try to subvert our country this way so it is not clearly illegal.

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And let's not forget the reason PUBs rant and rail but didn't do spit when they controlled both Houses and the Oval Office- the immigrants work hard, long and for less pay under conditions most 'real' Americans won't.

How many of 'them' do you know? I know a few and it should be of some comfort to know many second generation serve the country, and even vote PUB... :shock:

It would be an EXTREMELY short-sighted policy to predominately conservative group into the country thinking they will automatically vote for liberals- (Kalifornica's prop 8 shows the newest arrivals are not lock-step liberal)

Nice try though... eace

notquiteright said:

And let's not forget the reason PUBs rant and rail but didn't do spit when they controlled both Houses and the Oval Office-

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Dear those were not Republicans like Trump is a Republican or like Cruz is a Republican! Do you understand?

notquiteright said:

the immigrants work hard, long and for less pay under conditions most 'real' Americans won't.

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most real Americans wont because liberals put them on the dole so they don't have to work!! How do you think they live if not on the dole and by block voting for those who provide the dole.

notquiteright said:

It would be an EXTREMELY short-sighted policy to predominately conservative group into the country thinking they will automatically vote for liberals- (Kalifornica's prop 8 shows the newest arrivals are not lock-step liberal)

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dear prop 8 was about same sex marriage not immigration. Sorry.

James972 said:

dear prop 8 was about same sex marriage not immigration. Sorry.

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Dear, prop 8 shows how conservative the newest arrivals are- they didn't toe the liberal line and vote for same sex marriage. They voted like the other religious conservatives. :2wave:

I get a good laugh when Conservatives try and use the 'on the dole' slur. The VAST majority of those receiving some government assistance hold down jobs. They are hard working, low wage, little if any benefits. Major Corporations benefit greatly from the government subsidizing their workers with food stamps and EIC.

But nice try... eace

I've slowly formulated hypothesis on this and I believe it is close to the mark. I believe a Trump was an inevitable byproduct of the oppressive environment that liberals have established in our country. You literally CANNOT say anything that opposes, or even questions, liberal mainstream ideology without being given some kind of disgusting title (e.g. racist, xenophobe, bigot, sexist, ect.), no matter how reasoned and logical the disagreement is. It could even be something as simple as criticizing Obama and you're called a racist and you just don't like him because he's black.

Additionally, in the push to right some wrongs we've had in our government, in order to bring about equality, liberals have tipped the scale of quality and pushed it into a violation of rights. This can be found in the cliche "bake a cake for a homosexual wedding". I think many of of can agree that marriage equality is the proper avenue because it is not the role of the government to regulate morality, as long as there is not a victim involved. This is entirely different than a private establishment not wanting to engage in certain types of business. There is no right to the goods or services of private citizens.

Now moving on to illegal immigration, there are definite reasons to control immigration, and it's not just for physical security measures. A country without control of it's own boarders will cease to become a country. There are very real costs related to this. There are significant reasons to secure the boarder due to illicit drugs pouring in.

There are legitimate concerns regarding the culture of the Middle East and Islam, but having those concerns makes you a bigot/racist (I honestly don't know why racist because it's not a race). Yet, at the same time, if a Christian person supposedly leaves no tip for a homosexual server in a restaurant it's the next viral social media outrage showing how horrible Christians are. But you have a Muslim kill a bunch of people and they will rush to defend and distance the matter from Islam.

You have people who do not like the concept of abortion. No matter what your personal beliefs are, the idea of being against it is because the belief is that you're killing an innocent human life. Now, due to biology, women are the ones that carry the child until viability. So now being against abortion means you're a horrible person that hates women (even though women and men are actually pretty equal in their split on the issue).

If you have philosophical concerns about social safety net programs, and how it applies to personal property rights, you don't care about poor people and want them to die in gutters in the street.

Do you see the common theme here? No matter what the issue is, and no matter how logical or reasoned the objection is, you're automatically labeled with the most disgusting types of names without any caution, care, or second thought. There is no room for so many liberals to think something like, "You know, I disagree with where you are coming from, but I understand. You're not a bad person to believe such things, I just think you're wrong." No...conservatives are racists, homophobes, bigots, heartless and cruel beasts. If you voice your beliefs you WILL be shouted down. The end result is so many people have just crammed their beliefs down deep and kept their heads down. This means that there are more people who disagree with liberals than what many realize. This means that there has been a growing level of frustration being built up because you cannot speak your mind.

Now Trump comes along...he has money and name recognition. This gets his foot in the door and makes him immune to being shouted or shut down. He says so many things that are so abrasive, some of it downright ridiculous and dangerous, that people love it. They love that, FINALLY, someone is just throwing it in the faces of liberals and they are powerless to stop him. They don't even really have to like his politics or agree with everything he says. It's a release valve that is venting that built up frustration and pressure.

The Trump is born.


*sorry that was long

notquiteright said:

Dear, prop 8 shows how conservative the newest arrivals are- they didn't toe the liberal line and vote for same sex marriage. They voted like the other religious conservatives. :2wave:

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We are not talking about their conservative Catholic attitudes on marriage!!! OMG!! We are talking about their voting habits. They block vote liberal which of course is why liberals support them! Reagan could never win in CA now because the larger immigrant community votes liberal!!. Now do you understand? OMG!!!


While there’s no way of knowing if these predictions are accurate, the data provide some insights. In 2012, the Pew Research Center’s National Survey of Latinos found that among Latino immigrants who are not U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents (and therefore likely unauthorized immigrants), some 31% identify as Democrats and just 4% as Republicans.

James972 said:

And let's not forget the reason liberals invite them here is so they can legalize them and have them block vote liberal, which they dutifully do. This is an odd form of treason. Our Founders did not imagine a group would try to subvert our country this way so it is not clearly illegal.

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Which is the reason I view the "illegal alien" problem as the greatest threat to Western Civilization_

And the Republicans who say we should let them stay but not vote are delusional to believe that Democrats would not find a way to eventually make them fully franchised voters_

The simple truth is if 12 to 20 million illegal aliens are permitted to stay here, the voting balance will forever be shifted to the left making the United States a One Party political monopoly_

U.S. borders will open to unrestricted migration that will separate according to their respective religions, races, cultures and languages that will forever be suspicious of their Caucasian hosts and will covet all that they have_

Unemployment, crime and violence will escalate in America, much the same as it is now doing in Europe, which will reduce these once great nations to poverty stricken third world wastelands and inevitably result in the demise of all Western Civilization!

Empirica said:

Which is the reason I view the "illegal alien" problem as the greatest threat to Western Civilization_

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and so that make Trump the best candidate!!!

James972 said:

and so that make Trump the best candidate!!!

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Considering that no one else promises to deport illegal aliens; pretty much makes Trump the only choice_

And there's no guarantee he will succeed but the status-quo policies of his competitors guarantees failure_

Under the same circumstances, I'd even support Forest Gump for simply promising to deport illegal aliens_

And unlike Trump the smart multi-billionaire; Gump was just a lowly millionaire with an IQ of barely 70_

James972 said:

and so that make Trump the best candidate!!!

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Don't confuse best candidate with best president. Trump is the best candidate because of the timing of his run. He ran when millions of Americans are looking for a candidate that is not one of "them" (professional politicians.) Could he run the administration as well as any of the other candidates? Of course he could. There is nothing special about the other candidates and, unfortunately for them, they are professional politicians. It is very entertaining to see both the left and and the right fight his candidacy. I'll bet it makes him smile as well. What a hoot.

fmw said:

Don't confuse best candidate with best president. Trump is the best candidate because of the timing of his run. He ran when millions of Americans are looking for a candidate that is not one of "them" (professional politicians.) Could he run the administration as well as any of the other candidates? Of course he could. There is nothing special about the other candidates and, unfortunately for them, they are professional politicians. It is very entertaining to see both the left and and the right fight his candidacy. I'll bet it makes him smile as well. What a hoot.

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yes it is nice payback and I hope Trump wins but you have to be concerned about his ignorance, lying, school yard adolescence, viciousness, and militancy. The man is a wreck and a narcissist but maybe that's what it takes to deal with ISIS and Immigration. He's a stupid stupid liberal on trade but if that's what it takes get the vote from 3/4 of the Democratic middle class who lost their jobs to offshoring I'd say its worth it. He even got 46% of the Hispanic vote in Nevada!! Now thats a hoot!!